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Warning about zucchini toxicity and not eating things that taste horribly bitter

 
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Joseph Lofthouse wrote:I keep telling myself that one of these years I want to do cotyledon tasting/selection on my cucumbers.



Ugh! This forum is tremendously influential on my actions. I sat down in one of my cucumber patches and tasted a cotyledon on every plant to eliminate the most bitter. Spit. Gag. Bleck! I ended up culling about 20% of them. I suppose that saves gagging in the fall, since the taste of the cotyledons is strongly correlated to the taste of the fruits, and I taste every fruit before saving seeds from it. One nice thing about tasting at such a young age, is that they haven't released pollen into the patch. There are 3 more patches. I'm cringing at the thought of tasting them....

I also tasted the lettuce. I find cucumber poison to be much more objectionable than lettuce poison. In any case, This is the third generation tasting for lettuce poison. And milky sap in lettuce leaves is a great indication that they are poisonous, so I don't have to taste the worst of the lettuce.
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culling small lettuce plants
culling small lettuce plants
 
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https://www.livescience.com/62158-toxic-squash-syndrome-hair-loss.html

Women lost their hair to bitter squash. Makes me wonder about growing squash.
 
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having nearly died from food poisoning i live by a couple rules
if it tastes yucckee dont eat it
when in doubt throw it out
i love zucchini and pick em before they get too big
 
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Joseph Lofthouse wrote:
I also tasted the lettuce. I find cucumber poison to be much more objectionable than lettuce poison. In any case, This is the third generation tasting for lettuce poison. And milky sap in lettuce leaves is a great indication that they are poisonous, so I don't have to taste the worst of the lettuce.






Just putting this out there. My experience with lettuce has been a mild sedative which helps with nervousness and mild pain. Often when i am out working i will seek out a wild lettuce and eat one leaf. I am under the impression this is similar to latex the sap you are referring too. When ever i cut the head of a lettuce off i always lick the bottom of the stem off because of this effect. It is not as noticeable(the taste) in the cultivated lettuce. I am reminded of poppy. So just putting out my experience as its different than what you are saying.
The information i got was from our local herbalist who uses wild lettuce in her tinctures.

edited it because it kept saying i had quoted Josephs words. it looked confusing, almost like i quoted him with my reply.
 
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I wonder if those ornamental plants could be used as a pesticide, or simply as an anti feeding device on another crops. Perhaps deer wouldn't like to eat everything if it were sprayed with it.

We know that the natural pests of this  plant are attracted to the bitterness. Perhaps they could be a trap crop, planted at some distance. Maybe plant a sterile version of it.
 
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I believe that lettuce poison has medicinal properties. I am selecting my lettuce for suitability as food, not as herbal medicine.

 
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Joseph Lofthouse wrote:I believe that lettuce poison has medicinal properties. I am selecting my lettuce for suitability as food, not as herbal medicine.



I have wild lettuce growing all over the place here.  I'm somewhat over sensitive to most drugs, but I find a small leaf of wild lettuce chopped up, mixed with mayo, and put in a sandwich is useful for me if I'm stressed out and in pain, despite the vile taste which the mayo only just manages to disguise.

I never save my own lettuce seed though.  I would NOT want to risk that taste getting into my salad greens!
 
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