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what would you want in a permies women's retreat at wheaton labs?

 
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Kenneth Elwell wrote:... I was also just old enough to pick up on the undertones of “why the fuck is this kid/ boy/ future man-enemy-creature here?!” from a few of the attendees.
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I can't remember from where I had that experience, but exactly that undertone is the reason why I don't want to join 'women only' activities. There could be women there (or maybe only one) who consider men 'the enemy' ...
 
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I’m also late to the comment party, and I’ll add votes to ‘I wanna come!’ and  ‘learning to use power tools, machinery, and axes, etc.’

Specifically, lessons BY female-bodied people who are experienced with using these types of tools FOR female-bodied people who want to learn to use them safely and ergonomically.

Female-bodied people are on average 20% smaller than male-bodied people, and have a different center of gravity. We sometimes need to move and hold things differently in order to do so safely, and the differences can be subtle, so learning to use big/sharp/powered tools from a male-bodied person isn’t always as safe for us as it would be for a male-bodied newbie. The tool design itself can be a problem- if you can’t close your hand around something that expects you to do that (I’m looking at you, smartphones and power drills!) then you can’t use it as intended, so you have to choose your tool carefully.
 
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Jocelyn, I am curious to know how it feels for you there are some more women now at Wheaton Labs (Coco, Jacqi, Tailor).
 
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How to get 'heavy' jobs done and use tools that father's tend to teach their sons how to use.
Im a woman, I work in mining and I've had to teach other young women how to use a hand saw on the job!
As others have said it is better to be taught by similar body types due to reach, hand size and strength differences.

 
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Inge Leonora-den Ouden wrote:Jocelyn, I am curious to know how it feels for you there are some more women now at Wheaton Labs (Coco, Jacqi, Tailor).


That there's some balance in the force!! YAY!

 
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I also wanted to say thanks for the additional feedback, Inge, Rin, and natasha. This will help us think about the courses and events we provide here.

For most of this thread, it seemed a lot of the women just wanted to learn new things, and experience things that we offer or have here at wheaton labs that you can't find other places. And we're trying to plan more of that kind of thing.

Speaking of, we'd love your feedback on events we're planning for this September:  https://permies.com/t/118885/permaculture-projects/homestead-skills-aka-PEP-certification.



 
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Hi Ladies,

Here is the Homestead skills jamboree!!!

Check it out, maybe we will see you up here! https://permies.com/wiki/118704/permaculture-projects/September-October-Homestead-Skills-Jamboree#960505
 
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