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R Scott wrote:
It does not work (today) unless you have a huge grid costs or tax credits to offset the cost.
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Cj Verde wrote:
R Scott wrote:
It does not work (today) unless you have a huge grid costs or tax credits to offset the cost.
Or you've minimized your electrical loads...
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Justus Walker wrote:So, do people who put in solar have to be ideologues? Really far from the grid? Serious civilization collapse preppers?
Please tell me I've got something royally screwed up. I want to do alternative energy. So far the only thing looking good is the horse and the gasifier.
And the TOJAN horse in the whole thing is the batteries!! Right?? Wrong? HELLP me please understand. I'm loosing sleep over this!
Burra Maluca wrote:That's why I'm going for a grid-feed system. They will pay up to €1,700 euros a year for the electricity I sell to them, and pay as normal for what I use, which should be a very small fraction of what they pay me! The system should pay for itself in ten years, and I get a regular income for as long as the panels and the feed-in tariff last.
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Cj Verde wrote:Burra, do you have battery back up?
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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
Justus Walker wrote:The answer is various production options I guess, and less storage. Like some solar, some wind (for cloudy rainy days) and a genset running off of a gasifier for everything else.
Justus Walker wrote:Just never heard anyone talk about how pig a problem that was, especially with not wanting to cycle them lower than 50% and thus needing to essentially double any required bank size! Crazy!
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Justus Walker wrote:
So, do people who put in solar have to be ideologues? Really far from the grid? Serious civilization collapse preppers?
Please tell me I've got something royally screwed up. I want to do alternative energy. So far the only thing looking good is the horse and the gasifier.
And the TOJAN horse in the whole thing is the batteries!! Right?? Wrong? HELLP me please understand. I'm loosing sleep over this!
M Foti wrote: If you want to live like folks did at the turn of the century and still have things like internet, electric light, and a refrigerator, then solar is awesome. When you start needing to run well pumps, water heaters, dryers, washing machines and things like that... not without spending big bucks.
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M Foti wrote:He used a very large pressure tank on his well so he could run little bits of water without turning on the genny for things like washing hands, getting a glass of water, etc. Worked out great for him.
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Justus Walker wrote:I use about 15 kwh a day. If I were doing a 12v system
off-grid in Northern Wisconsin for 14 years
1. 15 Kwh is an incredible amount of energy. There are many things that are not appropriate to run off solar/batteries such as AC (not a problem for you), heat, hot water, stove, large refrigerators/freezers, pumps and probably any appliance 240V.
Cut your usage by 75% before hand and then it's reasonable.
fridges and freezers are the killers when it comes to power hungry devices. there is a design out there somewhere. think it may be on the back shed site about using a freezer as a fridge. reduces the power by about 90% by only switching on for a short time each day
leila hamaya wrote:
fridges and freezers are the killers when it comes to power hungry devices. there is a design out there somewhere. think it may be on the back shed site about using a freezer as a fridge. reduces the power by about 90% by only switching on for a short time each day
ah, this is a great idea =) makes sense, and its simple. if you dont open the freezer/fridge very often, it seals up good and tight and have it on a timer, you could probably have an ok fridge on a solar power system, if it was nice and big enough. but i
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r john wrote:The battery problem may be solved with the latest thermal solar CHP
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