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Solar and Wind Turbine Recommendations?

 
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Can I connect this to the solar pannels? Can I use the energy right away?

https://www.amazon.com/VEVOR-Generator-Controller-Windward-Direction/dp/B09C69NM77/ref=mp_s_a_1_20?crid=22RAIG2BUO6CT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.KLHNacnFzB5MIznpbOXj5E3YszV1PDv7IyR0sd30GRalmR3rjm1DZhqb6VE-85LPt6nT8IV6QgnIFvQ1-GdXpeIzGQQjIjaowhPVHGbp5hXVeNaJpsTP8RsbItvTauI-08Oo22ut8MgWVJdao7uktW8RavQA4vzUuc7vJ8ES-hrV87rDrPLEidktht0ou1idpNOhJvfgoC8nRMIjOs2tQQ.h5pMnObEIdqZS4n3g-4iqAecXNXIHdi4PTqKQMTe--Y&dib_tag=se&keywords=wind+turbine+rv&qid=1717813413&sprefix=wind+turbine+rv%2Caps%2C188&sr=8-20


If I buy this kit, can I connect other solar pannels to it?

https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Solar-Battery-Trailer-Garden/dp/B09RZJS1ZS/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1S1A50ASGQF7F&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.nEUD98cjTqViGQVVf8qktXRqTGLZhEna16JqXBKh7PP84SDH07B-p1tJx-ZzB2uB5-0jmI6wpNH_OFKGKEXFvTdajbeKVdeGQkG7snpmb0zmH_jGbSa6F0ZftXD7eRm9EfBjjrL4LZl0hLPDCglFe-h4jO7PoHKoXB2ozrdSXfv3QoPTh-OvTo3V6i3pxopYiReIpvNbWqfn-oxF7LUN8Q.bouUeHIKaGbWDElVtdgSf3P3OPblUClLJkAhK3mX1II&dib_tag=se&keywords=solar+panel+kit&qid=1717813638&sprefix=solar+panel+kit%2Caps%2C190&sr=8-3

Is it better to buy something more expensive for better quality, or with inflation is it not actually better quality?

Would it be cheaper or better quality if I buy the supplies separately from the panels/turbine?

Anyone have product recommendations? I'd like to get solar and a wind Turbine this week for less than 300. I'm doing it for both emergency preparedness and to prep for  off grid living in the future.

A review of the solar kit looks like it runs into the con of solar kits not matching well as described in this site:
https://rvwiki.mousetrap.net/doku.php?id=electrical:solar:gentle_intro
 
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As with ALL wind turbine the number that they quote is for constant wind speed of 30mph, so in reality your should actually expect 1/10 of what every they tell you at more normal wind speeds. If the winds in your area is even less than 10mph, wind turbine isn't really worth it.

The solar panel that you have listed is good enough just like the wind turbine. As usual, in the winter, daily solar production is about 1/3 of the summer daily production. So while they might state that that you can make 400WH per day, it's actually 200WH/day in the winter and 600WH/day in the winter. There are also regional differences too aka desert vs cloudy maritime PNW.

And yes you can connect a wind charge controller to a battery bank and in addition connect another charge controller (solar/hydro/etc) to that same battery bank. Just make sure that all the charge controllers are set to the right battery chemistry (lead-acid vs lithium) and to the right voltage (12V and not 24V, etc)

Do note that PWM charge controller are not as good as MPPT charge controller, so you lose about 1/3 of the energy. Which I think is fine given how small your system is, the price point that you are targetting and the fact that this is more of backup/learning project.

Looking forward to your build post. Have fun while learning.
 
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S Bengi wrote:

Looking forward to your build post. Have fun while learning.



Thank you!!!
 
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Riley Summerton wrote:Can I connect this to the solar pannels? Can I use the energy right away?

https://www.amazon.com/VEVOR-Generator-Controller-Windward-Direction/dp/B09C69NM77/ref=mp_s_a_1_20?crid=22RAIG2BUO6CT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.KLHNacnFzB5MIznpbOXj5E3YszV1PDv7IyR0sd30GRalmR3rjm1DZhqb6VE-85LPt6nT8IV6QgnIFvQ1-GdXpeIzGQQjIjaowhPVHGbp5hXVeNaJpsTP8RsbItvTauI-08Oo22ut8MgWVJdao7uktW8RavQA4vzUuc7vJ8ES-hrV87rDrPLEidktht0ou1idpNOhJvfgoC8nRMIjOs2tQQ.h5pMnObEIdqZS4n3g-4iqAecXNXIHdi4PTqKQMTe--Y&dib_tag=se&keywords=wind+turbine+rv&qid=1717813413&sprefix=wind+turbine+rv%2Caps%2C188&sr=8-20


If I buy this kit, can I connect other solar pannels to it?

https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Solar-Battery-Trailer-Garden/dp/B09RZJS1ZS/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1S1A50ASGQF7F&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.nEUD98cjTqViGQVVf8qktXRqTGLZhEna16JqXBKh7PP84SDH07B-p1tJx-ZzB2uB5-0jmI6wpNH_OFKGKEXFvTdajbeKVdeGQkG7snpmb0zmH_jGbSa6F0ZftXD7eRm9EfBjjrL4LZl0hLPDCglFe-h4jO7PoHKoXB2ozrdSXfv3QoPTh-OvTo3V6i3pxopYiReIpvNbWqfn-oxF7LUN8Q.bouUeHIKaGbWDElVtdgSf3P3OPblUClLJkAhK3mX1II&dib_tag=se&keywords=solar+panel+kit&qid=1717813638&sprefix=solar+panel+kit%2Caps%2C190&sr=8-3

Is it better to buy something more expensive for better quality, or with inflation is it not actually better quality?

Would it be cheaper or better quality if I buy the supplies separately from the panels/turbine?

Anyone have product recommendations? I'd like to get solar and a wind Turbine this week for less than 300. I'm doing it for both emergency preparedness and to prep for  off grid living in the future.

A review of the solar kit looks like it runs into the con of solar kits not matching well as described in this site:
https://rvwiki.mousetrap.net/doku.php?id=electrical:solar:gentle_intro


For every 12 volt panel out there being sold there is at least 20 higher voltage panels produced. This makes the cost per watt much higher for 12 volt panels. It does not matter if you are only ever going to hook up one or 2 12 volt panels but if you want to grow the array you should invest from the start in a Mppt charge controller. I have used this one as an entry level unit.  https://www.amazon.com/EPEVER-Controller-Lead-Acid-Batteries-Discharging/dp/B0811F75H3/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=1ZVJYKIT40SL5&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1cFRLoNJjsb3ctbeZzZAidYVvgixfE0PlzTBljByzClxwhpIy9BJaACRnMPA_GnwagYA8_a3mWYoPCSESMxSuTGKOpIbAu0H66GIpoUeyQPUkR8Mf35uhZjNWvPtAtGJOr1w2j3kHDm5_hd9DQ0qp1mkkAtPMdlPxwsgGdNHGy8RxlYxtcpLfGkHS-x50WpRb2vOYY9MsDa5ttoqlTgYJQI6p6rVHbiOpFKBtm7AXu0.qgb92AdPzvfe3oGbQZyvVEuV4JjHzOP1tUg6fCwEKmc&dib_tag=se&keywords=epever%2Bcharge%2Bcontroller&qid=1718025834&sprefix=epever%2Bcharge%2Bcontroller%2Caps%2C138&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1
this will allow you to do a single panel, grow to up to 30 amps worth (360 watts) either as 3 of the expenseive per watt 100 watt panels or the larger utility panels and switch to a 24 volt system if desired down the road. For small wind  that looks like not a bad option but a single utility solar panel will outperform that wind turbine in all but the best wind locations at one third of the cost.
Enjoy the journey...
Cheers, David
 
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David hits the nail on the head.  Eco-worthy is a low-end solar provider, and you can get MUCH HIGHER quality stuff just spending a bit more money.  Right now I can get 30V, 250W panels for 50$ each, so about 5X as many watts was what's in the Eco-worthy kit.  Just add an economical controller like the Epever MPPT and you have a far better performing system.

I know of a lot of people personally that have successfully integrated solar for their off-grid needs.  I know NO-ONE that has successfully made their power with wind.

If you want to upgrade up to 24V like I have, a budget controller like the 4210AN can be connected to 1000W of panels.  Even much more if you employ strategies like virtual tracking.  12V is OK if all you want is lights and a TV.  Once you get into larger items like a microwave, or a refrigerator/freezer, 24V make life easier.

I'd suggest you'll be best off avoiding that kit completely.
 
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