On the issue of dealing with human solid waste, I was wondering if anyone had brought up building outhouses in appropriate places out of green willow branches?
I think the first time we do that, I would like to install a way to measure pathogens leaching down.
As to pathogens, wouldn't you just locate your outhouses on a keylined contour line and take soil samples at regular time and space intervals?
And do you feel it necessary to have that geographical barrier of a separate staging area being on another piece of land? Are there reasons you wouldn't simply designate a space near the entry BC? In your shoes I could see doing that and saving resources for development.
Jocelyn Campbell wrote:I've been using searches and scans to find any mention how to manage menstrual blood in poop and pee systems. I think one or two posters here on permies mentioned treating it similar to poop.
Last night, I asked my sister who is an RN and her husband, a medical lab tech about possible pathogens in blood as compared to pee and poop. They agreed that blood should be considered in the poop category in terms of potential pathogens.
Just making this clear because I find it amazing how menstrual blood is almost an "unmentionable." It's part of life.
I like that Paul wants to verify that the wheelie bin idea is the safest way to handle poop, and that he only wants to use the poop on fibre, wood, and non-food crops.
paul wheaton wrote:I think it is wise to make sure there are poplar, cottonwood and willow trees growing.
Next, all systems should be designed so that they run cleaner than a standard septic system or a sewage treatment plant.
I think pee should be encouraged for all of outdoors.
I think the first system should be the wheelie bin system. Later systems could be dry outhouses.
I would like to find somebody that is keen on this space and microscope savvy to conduct tests to verify the cleanliness of our systems.
Jocelyn Campbell wrote:
The basics of a wheaton labs pooper system, now called willow feeders, are the following:
poop is deposited into 32-gallon plastic garbage cans, with some wood chips or sawdust to mitigate smell urine is diverted or otherwise not included in the bins large bins are used to minimize touching, moving, messing with poo full bins are topped with 2 inches of sawdust, capped, and moved to the "willow candy bank" for 1-2 years to compost after 6 months of resting, 99% of any potential pathogens are likely eliminated - we're letting sit two years to be extra cautious this aged poop compost aka "willow candy" is used on fiber crops (trees, shrubs, etc. where fiber is used for woodworking, baskets, etc.) that appreciate heavy nitrogren willow candy is NOT used on food crops.
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