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ICs where people live like humans did before civilization?

 
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Are there any ICs where one can live like nature intended, long before the start of human civilization?
 
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Welcome to Permies, John!

Could you maybe elaborate about what you're looking for? I've researched many ancient human groups and I think my definition of "civilization" may not  be the same as yours.
 
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Nice to meet you Jay,

I’m wondering if there are any ICs focused on living like ancient humans. I’m not sure what years, but the eras where we were still hunter-gatherers. A rather bare bones, minimal life style
 
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Hey John,
I haven’t come across any permanent communities practicing the lifestyle you seem to be looking for. Might be worth exploring ic.org (intentional communities.com), you may find something there.
I have met a few individuals that have taken on that lifestyle on there own. Typically, they spend most of their time on public lands (usfs/blm). A couple have had a friend that had property where they were able to use as a “home base”.
There is a community across the nation of “primitive skills” practitioners that come together at various locations for “gatherings” put on by different groups. Depending on where you’re at, you should be able to find a couple in your area.
I have pondered what such a Life might look like and believe that at any point in history, individual humans didn’t ever do it on their own. We’ve always had a community (both a localized “tribe” and broader community of trading partners) supporting us. No matter the technology available, we’ve always done it together. I think of the story of Ishi, a Californian Indian (Native American) whose entire tribe was murdered by the white colonists. He evaded the genocide as long as he could but eventually had to come out of the hills and walk right into one of the white  towns to survive.
Our models are indigenous peoples across the globe. Here in North America, most peoples were nomadic, ranging over broad territories. It’s now essentially impossible to do that without trespassing or breaking laws. I think there are a few regions that could provide enough resources on a relatively small parcel of land to Live a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, but that land is not going to be cheap or easy to find. I’m in the west, where the local Indians we’re labeled “lazy” because they had such abundance here they didn’t need to “work” constantly to survive. Even though there’s still a relative abundance, the salmon don’t choke the rivers like they once did and the game is harder to come by. And both of those are “illegal” at least part of the time.
As I’m writing, I do remember hearing about a community of folks that Lived in tipis outside of Ashland, Oregon. From my understanding, they had a summer location and a winter location that they would travel between. I believe the winter location was a multi-thousand acre parcel that was sold and they lost the rights to stay on. Not sure what has become of them. I imagine connecting with a landowner that has thousands of acres could be an option. I’ve also thought that it could be something that was set up with the USFS. Establish an “experimental forest” (they do this) to study humans as part of an ecosystem (or whatever you want) and get a chunk of land where a tribe could try to make it happen without the threat of being arrested. Of course, this would require data collecting and presenting findings to someone.
Ultimately, such a community may be something you need to create. Why don’t you tell us all about your thoughts. Where you are, where you think you might be able to pull this off, how you might develop the skills to achieve it, what the community might look like, etc.
good luck in your search.
 
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Interesting ... this thread (& Leaf's post) made my list of potential uses for the 40-acre property, where the (stupid) zoning laws say only "3 families" per property. Obviously, the land would support more, but ...

We'll have to go stealth (yet again!), to get something perfectly normal done. All because if just one person craps in the woods (next to the hundreds of animals that crap in my woods), the guys in white protective suits are called in ... so, stealth it is.

The idea taking shape is:
 - 3 obvious families (all that zoning allows)
 - a few (dozen) individuals camping out with natural/temporary shelters
 - access to water(we haul, so water can land anywhere), dump-facility (our OSSF), possibly electricity at certain times (to recharge whatever)
 - access to tool lending library
 - hand-crafted trails back & forth through the property, until there's miles of them
 - bicycle "parking/storage" zones, so no/little car activity (cars take up lots of land space, and are more "visible")

This is S. Colorado, at 7400' elevation ... winters get tough, so not sure how well a natural temporary shelter would work through the cold season, but that's what more-brilliant-than-I brains are for. TIPI's, maybe (as suggested above)?

Grab a piece of dirt (next to your temp structure or tipi), and do something Permaculture with it. Forest (pine canopy) is in place, so just get the other elements of food-forest in place.

No law-breaking by trespassing (we would get it into the trust by-laws, or some such), more like "appalachian trail" structures "on the trail". Maybe later, this property could be pieced in with similar properties, so you can walk from one end of state to the other, or from N. New Mexico up through S. Colorado, to USFS woods beyond.

Ultimate goal is to find more ways to get the land up to 100% efficiency, with many things happening ... hopefully, community will form up out of that!

Hmm ...
 
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