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Skandi Rogers wrote:Did you start to compost recently? I would expect the time of year rather than any smells to be responsible for an increase in mice. Unless they can get into the bucket I doubt that is the reason they are there.
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Skandi Rogers wrote:Did you start to compost recently? I would expect the time of year rather than any smells to be responsible for an increase in mice. Unless they can get into the bucket I doubt that is the reason they are there.
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Skandi Rogers wrote:Did you start to compost recently? I would expect the time of year rather than any smells to be responsible for an increase in mice. Unless they can get into the bucket I doubt that is the reason they are there.
This is my thought as well.
I would try securing the bucket as best you can (brick on the lid? In the fridge? Empty at night and wash before bed?) and see if you can note the response. I've lived in a lot of mousy old houses and generally there are better places for them to seek food (the-gold-mine-of-crap-under-the-stove, drawers with spilled flour, pet food bowl, bird seed storage, etc) and the compost bucket may just happen to be on the route. Then you can think about traps, etc. I do have mice go after my compost in the garden, but in the house there is so much more in terms of easy pickings that they can't even be bothered.
I would love to have a metal bucket with a metal lid (here everything is plastic) so if I were you I would try to find a way to make your current system work. If the smell is really bothering you you might be able to rig up the lid to close tighter with a waxed cloth between the lid and bucket, for example, or maybe adding some sort of rubber gasket to the lid with an old bike inner tube, etc.
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r ranson wrote:Stainless steel with holes in the lid so the compost can breathe and CHANGEABLE charcoal filters in the lid. Emptied and rinsed (I use rainbutt water) AT LEAST once a day (full or not) and you only have to clean it and change the filters twice a year. Emptied every other day or neglect to rinse it each time, and it needs cleaning with bleach AT LEAST once a month.
We have one like this.
IF the lid is properly closed, and the bin properly maintained, there is no smell - I'm hypersensitive to smell (Hyperosmia due to health issues), so smells (not just bad ones) make me vomit instantly. So I can say with strong conviction that, if the human element is functioning correctly (emptying the bin AT LEAST ONCE A DAY), then this is the most awesome solution to kitchen counter compost EVER! If I can't smell it, then a rat cannot smell it.
The advantage of Stainless Steel is that it won't absorb the stink into the bin and can be cleaned.
If the lid seals, then it quickly begins anaerobic decomposition which is nasty. We don't want this unless we are using bokashi composting - which is a whole different topic.
Compost is made of dyeing things. We can choose which process they decay. Aerobic bacteria and yeast (air loving invisible beasties) produce less smell in this situation. So having breathing holes for the compost actually reduces the stink.
The stinky charcoal filters can be boiled for a second use, but they don't last as long the second time.
We can pour baking soda in the bin, but this doesn't reduce the stink, merely traps it and concentrates it. Not sure a mouse wouldn't smell this.
Something we did in the apartment when we couldn't get to the garden very often was to have a breathable compost bin in the kitchen and at least ONCE A DAY, we would empty it into a stinky, 5-gallon bin with a tight-fitting lid on the balcony. When we had a few of these full, we would take them to the garden. This was great because it kept the stink away from the living space (Rats are a big thing in the city) and started a bokashi style decomposition before it got to the garden. We trenched it in the garden and it was completely gone in about 2 weeks.
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It's good that you are working on seeling up the house for the mice issue.
In my dreadful experience with mice, the compost wasn't their favourite thing. They loved sugar and starchy foods and would chew through plastic bags, plastic bins, and even metal bins to get to it. They also carry some pretty nasty illnesses (many spread through touch or ingesting mouse urine) that can cause permanent damage to a human, so it's good to be careful. We ended up getting rid of most of our food or putting it in the freezer, glass, or ceramic jars until we could get rid of the mice.
But the compost bin is a good place to start, especially if it's an opportunity to train your household to empty it frequently.
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Alright, getting warmer. Problem is, do those activated charcoal filters have plastic in them? Are they biodegradable? Compostable? Charcoal isn't bad, it will just break down and be reabsorbed by something in nature.
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Joshua Myrvaagnes wrote:One other thought just came to mind, I wonder about creating mouse habitat somewhere away from the house. They look for warm places they can build nests in.
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Emilie McVey wrote:Have you considered having a cat? A few mice may die along the way, but mostly the scent of the cat will keep them away.
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Catie George wrote:Far from 100% plastic free - but we often use old coffee cans for composting. At least they are reused items, and they are designed to keep odours in. The metal ones with the plastic lids might be your best bet for lower plastic, but I think the folgers plastic ones work better.
Alternatively, a screw top gallon glass jar might work. Hard to have a good seal without some sort of plastic compound, so there would still be plastic in the lid.
When I've had fruit fly issues, I keep my compost bin in the fridge. I would probably do something similar if I had mice issues.
In addition - this season is PRIME mouse season. They are looking for a nice warm place to live for the winter, and tend to move and travel more. I recommend cleaning under/behind your fridge and stove if you haven't recently. You'd be amazed how much food gets kicked there, and it's a mouse heaven.
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Joshua Myrvaagnes wrote:One other thought just came to mind, I wonder about creating mouse habitat somewhere away from the house. They look for warm places they can build nests in.
So ... are you essentially proposing a contract with the mice? Or an armistice? As in, "You can play out here, as long as you stay out here?" It's a noble thought. I confess I have not found rodents, of any variety, who can be trusted to respect such arrangements.
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