This afternoon I was paid a huge compliment by my very traditional plot neighbour. We get on fine, we just do things differently e.g digging vs. mulching, rows vs. organised chaos etc. Anyway this new lady has just taken a plot and was talking to him so I said "You've told her I'm completely mad, haven't you, Bill?" He looked thoughtful then said to the other woman "She plants things where they make sense. I mean, you look at it now and it looks like she's dug a bit here and there and forgotten about it, but when it comes up in the spring it all makes sense." I was so touched and taken aback that he's been quietly watching what I do and noticing that we have different success criteria. I count this as a great victory for permie-principles!