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I have a pair of pants I need to alter.  The "one size fits all" is more like "one size fits most".  So I'm taking apart the side seams to give it a bit more room.

Which got me thinking - hmm... there aren't any pockets!!!

There's got to be a way to remedy this situation!  
 
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Yes what is it with fashion that women's pants have no pockets? My wife is always giving me something to put in my pockets.  I've also had pants with shallow pockets that were not deep enough for a wallet or pocket knife. I would be frustrated without pockets.
 
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Exterior pockets, or "patch pockets" are easy to add to an existing garment. Inseam pockets are a lot harder.

There are good instructions here for how to sew both kinds.
 
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These pants are pretty flowing, so I'm keen to keep the basic shape of the pants while I adjust them.
Since I'm opening up the side seams anyway, it seems a good time to add regular pockets.
 
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I agree with James, I'd be lost without pockets too! My favorite pants now have a pocket on the outside of the thigh for my smartphone.

I've also found poorly made pockets. Either too shallow or too deep.

Too shallow and things slip out when you sit, bend, or crouch.

Too deep and you actually have to contort yourself to get to the bottom, and in winter especially, your sleeves prevent your hands getting that far. (or if you wear a wristwatch)
One of these long-pocketed pants, the pocket was both long enough and not stitched into the side seam far enough, that I'd end up sitting on my pocket knife since it would slide beside and under my thigh as I sat down. I wear those infrequently, for that reason, and they are my "nice jeans" that are tan color and pass for kahkis...  (I prefer jeans) and I'd never keep them "nice" as daily wear.

Another thing I thought was a good idea while shopping, was the edge of the pocket had a binding, rather than just hemmed... super durable right? Not so fast... the main reason why MY pockets wear out on that hem is from hooking a tape measure, or a pocket knife clip there, for years. Well damn, the clips on the tape measures and knives can't fit over that binding! And if you force it, they slide off so easily that you lose your stuff at the worst moments. So, yes, the pocket is spared the wear by not working properly. (in my opinion)

 
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This is my basic in-seam pocket pattern. I swiped it from a commercial pattern, it's very comfortable, deep enough to be useful, flows nicely with pants or skirts. I can draw you a properly cleaned up, with numbers, instructions, and markings, version if you want. This is what I would use to do what you want, if you were handing me those pants.

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Pearl Sutton wrote:This is my basic in-seam pocket pattern. I swiped it from a commercial pattern, it's very comfortable, deep enough to be useful, flows nicely with pants or skirts. I can draw you a properly cleaned up, with numbers, instructions, and markings, version if you want. This is what I would use to do what you want, if you were handing me those pants.

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That looks perfect!
 
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r ranson wrote:

That looks perfect!


Want it cleaned up and labeled etc then? I can do it later tonight....
 
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James Sullivan wrote:Yes what is it with fashion that women's pants have no pockets? My wife is always giving me something to put in my pockets.  I've also had pants with shallow pockets that were not deep enough for a wallet or pocket knife. I would be frustrated without pockets.



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I agree with James, I'd be lost without pockets too! My favorite pants now have a pocket on the outside of the thigh for my smartphone.

I've also found poorly made pockets. Either too shallow or too deep.

Too shallow and things slip out when you sit, bend, or crouch.

Too deep and you actually have to contort yourself to get to the bottom, and in winter especially, your sleeves prevent your hands getting that far. (or if you wear a wristwatch)
One of these long-pocketed pants, the pocket was both long enough and not stitched into the side seam far enough, that I'd end up sitting on my pocket knife since it would slide beside and under my thigh as I sat down. I wear those infrequently, for that reason, and they are my "nice jeans" that are tan color and pass for kahkis...  (I prefer jeans) and I'd never keep them "nice" as daily wear.

Another thing I thought was a good idea while shopping, was the edge of the pocket had a binding, rather than just hemmed... super durable right? Not so fast... the main reason why MY pockets wear out on that hem is from hooking a tape measure, or a pocket knife clip there, for years. Well damn, the clips on the tape measures and knives can't fit over that binding! And if you force it, they slide off so easily that you lose your stuff at the worst moments. So, yes, the pocket is spared the wear by not working properly. (in my opinion)



There is a ton of history in that question! Here ya go:
http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/articles/a/history-of-pockets/

https://medium.com/verve-up/the-bewildering-and-sexist-history-of-womens-pockets-1edf3a98117
 
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Ok, let's see if I got this right! The images will download if you right click and save image as (at least on my computer) each will print out on 8.5 x 11 paper.
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Thanks for this, Pearl! Since my phone and a small additional electronic piece form a part of my pancreas, it's super important that I have pockets. I've been adding patch pockets to some clothing, but it's not always a good match for all clothing styles. This will help immensely, and now I don't have to figure it out for myself!
 
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Thank you so much for the tutorial.
I'm hoping to give this a try this weekend.

The delay is that I'm adding a gusset to each side seam.  I get to decide if I want the pockets in front of the gusset, behind the gusset, or if I make the gusset in two bits, and put the pocket at the very centre of the side?
 
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r ranson wrote:
The delay is that I'm adding a gusset to each side seam.  I get to decide if I want the pockets in front of the gusset, behind the gusset, or if I make the gusset in two bits, and put the pocket at the very centre of the side?


In general, pockets are most comfortable and usable slightly forward of the side seam. Stand up, put your hands where thy are comfortable on your hips, it's not the side seams. So move your pockets forward off the side seam if you can. Look at where your hands sit easy, and can reach forward into your pocket, then look at your gusset and decide.

On the purple pants I was putting pockets in, those pockets are about 2 to 2.5 inches forward of the side seam. I have wide hips, that may be too much for you. But it's a guess where to try putting your hands to think on it.

Glad you find it useful!! :D
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