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I'm drawing a blank on what I planted in the one bed next to the kale. Can any of you help?

About 10 or 12 inches tall.
Has a taste almost like an edible chrysanthemum, but the only one of those I might have planted has a growth habit that looks like an ornamental (more frilly leaves), not these broad leaves.
No hair, but when I bit it there were a few strings in the stalk. Tasted good, it was juicy and kind of piney like a chrysanthemum.

The options for what I could have planted, from looking at my seed collection:
prize choy (but doesnt have the white stems like the images of prize choy i'm seeing- I've never tasted prize choy, so not sure.)
tatsoi (no, I've grown that, it is round and darker and close to the ground)
mizuna (no, that is frilly)
calendula (? doubtful but have never actually had any come up so can't tell what the foliage looks like)
I really don't know what else it could be! There is a small row full of it, so I definitely planted it on purpose. Aside from the calendula, zinnias, and the occasional marigold, I don't plant flowers, so it has to be some kind of food plant.
 
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looks like culantro to me.
 
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I WISH!!! I have been looking for culantro for years, actually found one one year, we are too cool for it here and it dies pretty quickly. This definitely doesn`t have the culantro taste, oh man I wish it did.
 
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I'm sorry, I can't help you out, but there are two other places you can check.  One being your extension.  A lot of times they have a department that you can send photos to for plant identification.  The other is, if you have a cell phone, there's an app for that!  

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/picturethis-plant-identifier/id1252497129
 
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It doesn't look like calendula foliage that I have had. Calendula I have always known has not had that scalloped edge, and is always a bit fuzzy.

Could somebody have given you a pinch of seeds and talked it up, so you excitedly planted it right away, and never put it into long term memory? That's something I would do...

Or... seed companies sometimes mislabel things, so maybe you planted one of the packets listed above but something else got in there.

Well, of course one solution is "Wait and see," and hope that the bolting that lets you identify it doesn't end its edible life!
 
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Thanks TJ, I`m outside the US... but I used to work for Cornell Coop Extension when I was in college, so maybe I need to see if there is some angle I can work there!!

Rebecca, thanks about the calendula. It is another one of these "holy grail" plants I always hope to have (and never have).
My seeds are usually pretty easy to keep tabs on because I bring them all in from abroad when I travel (you may know how that goes) and may have.... a spreadsheet to keep track of them? (ah, the shame of the seed hoarder). I used to keep a journal but that has fallen by the wayside, now I think I shall have to take that up again....

I will probably just let it grow and see what it does, and eventually cook it up as if it were chrysanthemum greens if it doesn`t change drastically. I ate a leaf yesterday and didn`t die, lol. I will definitely let at least one bolt.
 
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Mizuna that has come back from seed in my garden has come back with varying leaf shape. Some have been more rounded like in your picture. By about the third or fourth season coming back on it's own, the only mizuna left had a vaguely frilled more rounded leaf and lots of spines and the flavor was pretty strong and spicy.

I think mizuna is heavily selected for its frilly leaf shape. After a couple generations in the garden, it could be easily lost.

Please keep us posted if it flowers!
 
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That is great to know, Amy! In this garden anything is possible.
 
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I'm guessing it's a round leaf garland chrysanthemum that somehow came out of your frilly leaf variety???  Not sure if that occurs commonly or not, but it was just the first thing that sprung to mind when I looked at your picture.
 
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That or broad leaf definitely looks like a candidate.
And.......Last night I discovered a few seed packets that were in Vietnamese. I don't read Vietnamese, unfortunately, and went by the picture (I buy seeds wherever I find them, this was a few years ago at a Chinese market in urban NJ across the road from my US bank. You never know where you're going to find good things.) Yard long beans and chrysanthemum. Pic did not look like round or broad leaf varieties, but like Rebecca mentioned, things sometimes don't match their packaging!
 
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I saw this picture looking for herb seeds and thought it looked similar.

https://www.rareseeds.com/store/herbs/betony/betony-purple-or-hedge-nettle
 
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wow, it sure does!!
I can't wait to see the flowers on this thing to know what it actually is!
 
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I keep looking at your plant and it says lettuce.  I looked around for one i planted one year but couldn't find it.  I think the name was "mustard lettuce" seems like I remember it tasting kind of peppery.  From the site Steve posted:



Plants grow about 36 " tall in good soil. Stems for pickling should be harvested before the plant sets flowers. Plant 15 inches apart for best shaped plants.



Link to Rareseeds for Pickling Plume Lettuce
 
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Looks similar to sow thistle, which is a very pleasant wild edible green.
 
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I`ll report back as soon as we have flowers and we can tell.

(def not sow thistle, although we have a lot of that here-- the favorite food of the rabbits and my mother in law!)
 
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There's a plant ID app called PlantNet and it's pretty accurate, should be of help for future reference
 
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Thanks Cody.
Still no flowers, but we ate it last week, it has to be garland chrysanthemum. If there is ever a flower, we'll know for sure.
 
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So two years later.....
Last year the plant did little. We harvested the leaves a few times. This year in spring it finally flowered!!
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Ah... Oxeye daisy! We have so much of that stuff and I didn't know you could eat the young leaves. By the time I notice it each year, those leaves are pretty tough and not very appealing looking. I enjoy making flower crowns for my kids and it's fine for the kids to make bouquets because the flowers are sturdy and bloom until it freezes outside. But I love knowing the are multiple uses besides just looking pretty.
 
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Just to be aware, it's pretty invasive once it gets established . We pull it up by the roots and I encourage the kids to pick tons of it to keep it in check.
 
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I'm looking up recipes because I never thought to explore it before... Some fancy-shmancy recipes out there.

You can pick the buds and use them like a caper.
https://gathervictoria.com/2015/04/02/piquant-and-pretty-daisy-capers/

This one's a recipe for spicy pickled dailies and daisies. https://www.ediblewildfood.com/spicy-pickled-day-lilies-and-daisies.aspx

 
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Jenny Wright wrote:Just to be aware, it's pretty invasive once it gets established . We pull it up by the roots and I encourage the kids to pick tons of it to keep it in check.


Thanks for the warning. The rabbits need fodder, they'll be getting this for the Christmas weekend.
 
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That plant is beautiful.

I would use the cut flowers to brighten my interior so maybe it will not be too invasive.
 
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I wouldn't have the flowers indoors, yes they are pretty but they stink.
 
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My guess is that Tereza knows whether or not they stink. I don't know since I only have seen them in her picture.

If they are ox-eye daisies it appears there are some differences of opinion.

Ox-Eye Daisies, or Field Daisies, are my mother's favorite flower. As a child bringing the cows back from the far pasture, she'd come home with armloads of them. I grew up knowing their cheerful faces had a special beauty. Any time I saw them, I had to pick a few - and sometimes more than a few! - to bring home to my mom. After all, they were her favorite!



My mother wanted Ox-Eye Daisies for her wedding bouquet, but was told that she'd have to make do with Shasta Daisies. Not that Shasta Daises aren't pretty, but they're not the flowers she picked as a child.



https://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1261

Well if they do stink then my suggestion would be to pick them and place a vase outside where they can still be enjoyed.

Though that solution would probably not keep them from sharing their seed with mother nature.
 
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Anne Miller wrote:stinky ox-eye daisies.


I did cut them to have inside. They smell a bit, but right now is cut sunflower season and they also smell. I don't mind.
What i did mind was the bugs that came in with them! After a day they went out into the rabbit boxes...
 
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Tereza Okava wrote:

Anne Miller wrote:stinky ox-eye daisies.


I did cut them to have inside. They smell a bit, but right now is cut sunflower season and they also smell. I don't mind.
What i did mind was the bugs that came in with them! After a day they went out into the rabbit boxes...



They smell if you stick your face in them but I don't think it's overpowering. I  too have noticed that they always have tons of teeny tiny bugs hiding in them.
 
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Ooh lovely! Another wild edible to add to my list to try next year. Ox eye daisy grows in my tree field, but I've never tried eating it!


 
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