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Young couple in the early 30s, living in Puerto Rico. Left the big city a few years ago and recently acquired 20 acres.
Looking forward to help people wanting to take on farming and having their own piece of land.
We're mainly looking for couples to move close to us and grow together. Possibly building a community with a culture of strength and determination. Raise strong children and form alliances that will transcend one generation.

We're living off grid(solar + rain collection), and except for satellite internet we did everything ourselves.
We get great sun and around 120" of rain annually.
The house on the property is very far from the nearest neighbor and the property is surrounded by vacant land, forest, creeks, mountains, and monstrous bamboo clusters. It's safe. Not inconveniently isolated either, stores can be reached in 10 minutes or less, and nearby roads are not prone to landslides.
The main creek is never dry. It's steady throughout the year but gets wild when it rains a lot.
The property is half pastures half forest. Hasn't been worked in years, in some places, decades.

You could live on our property until you guys find a place and move. The idea is to grow side by side, and given our property is surrounded by vacant land we have a good chance at that.

A quick and basic description of who we're willing to help.
Young couple, ages between 25 and 35, approximately.
That value the traditional family structure but aren't necessarily religious.
Strong people with skills, the more the better. The men should be experienced in construction and have knowledge of and experience with power tools and such.
Long term planners.
In shape and that knows what good food is.
Minimalist and frugal tendencies, with a waste-conscious-driven spending behavior.
No vegans, no hippies, no drug users.

You don't have to know Spanish or have a lot of money.
Manual skills are a must, not necessarily agricultural skills though.
We plan on growing food and raising animals for meat, plant crops for income, have shops for crafting, and a ton of other things.

That's a quick and basic description of what we're looking for.
If you think that you might fit in, or maybe you need more information on who we are and what can this place offer, please don't hesitate to PM.
 
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Hello,

I hope you found what you were looking for.

Your ad seems to want an oxymoron: young and experienced

If you would consider middle aged fit couples,  you might have better luck.

For example,  I am in my late 30s, and fit enough to be a sought-after artist's model and agroecosystem manager. My partner is in his late 40s. He has 30+ years of construction experience and is a professional natural builder now by trade.  

I would love to live in Puero Rico. I'd take it over our Western North Carolina mountain estate any day.  I was born in Lousiana, my partner in Texas.  I would like to avoid winter, practice permaculture on a homestead, and stay in the US territory as I am a military veteran and have free medical service at VA hospitals.

We both speak Spanish.  My partner is part Spanish and part native American.  It just makes sense to relocate to P.R. He has a 12 year old daughter who is very active outdoors, and interested in science, but lacking in cultural life in redneck America here.  If you know anyone who is looking for middle aged neighbors,  lol...🤣😽💜

 
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Whats the avg price and size of the land available.

If someonw was to buy just the raw land, how easy would it be to get the raw material to build a house and how much would it cost
 
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S Bengi wrote:Whats the avg price and size of the land available.

If someonw was to buy just the raw land, how easy would it be to get the raw material to build a house and how much would it cost



Avg size. I would say 7 acres.
You'll find a lot of 3 acres ones, with water and power, many times with some structures, and then you might see 20+ acres that are just jungles.

The pricing is tricky. There is a local notion that for every acre it's 10k. Old folks trying to sell their land, a property that belongs to them but do not live in, might even go higher than that, regardless of the conditions the property is in. Buy using a realtor group and negotiate the price, always.


Getting materials for building is fairly easy. Local hardware stores deliver, Home Depot doesn't, but HD tends to have better pricing and variety.
Getting it to the site, that's another story. It will depend on the topography of the area. Also, you might have to travel, for short distances, on dirt roads, or make the roads, if you don't have direct access from a public road and have to pass through other people's properties. They can't deny you access, it's all already in the zoning documents.
 
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I am very interested in 3acres +power+water+some kind of structure for $30k ish. With power and water I assume there is at least a dirt road. So that sounds very good.
 
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S Bengi wrote:I am very interested in 3acres +power+water+some kind of structure for $30k ish. With power and water I assume there is at least a dirt road. So that sounds very good.



30k if you look in the right place.
The more perks a property has the more they ramp up the price. Specially a finished house.
You'll have to find one that has a half done house and was repossessed by a bank. There'll you'll find a good price and one you can even negotiate down.

Many properties are unlisted and only a few local folks know they're for sell. Now, these tend to be on the unreasonably expensive side. The person isn't in a hurry to sell so they keep the price up thinking some foreigner is going to fall for it... Not in a hurry to sell, yeah, even though he might have diabetes, heart problems, and be around 80 years old. I've seen it!
 
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Hi there, totally new to this site but came her to find opportunities similar to what you describe. Your property looks amazing! Just curious- where in PR do you live? I lived in the USVI for many years and used to spend a fair amount of time in PR and still consider moving there. Wondering why you say "no vegans"? I get that you are looking for like-minded souls- in which case how would you describe yourselves? Traditional but not religious? Omnivores? etc...Also, for what it's worth, I agree with the other poster in her 30's with a 40 something year old mate- you might consider having some neighbors/collaborators who are a bit older who are fit but will bring lots of life experience and skills to your growing community. But of course, that's totally up to you! Best of luck in your venture. K
 
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How is it getting a loan? My son and I lived in Rincon for 2 months. We are considering moving back. I can farm, I was a mechanic, and have construction skills. I'm interested. Please message me. Thank you
 
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