wayne fajkus wrote:I have no advice but i wish for your success!
Nathanael Szobody wrote:2 Questions:
How much land do you have?
Can you state your goal for that land with very specific language in one sentence?
Tyler Ludens wrote:Could it be, Rene, that your model system started out too large?
Nathanael Szobody wrote:Have you considered workaway.com for some of the labor?
elle sagenev wrote:I've had way more failure than success as well. A huge influx of money would make everything easier but that's not going to happen for us so we just do what we can when we can. Either my husband or I have always worked off the land to pay bills/create funds for things. I'd say if it's possible one you needs to do the same. It sucks, but it's pretty reliable income you can put towards doing amazing things.
I'd also say that I live in an area where selling things just isn't great. We don't have a big population and the population we do have doesn't spend money on luxury meats/etc usually anyway.
Tyler Ludens wrote:After having worked on our place for about 20 years and just now beginning to see real results and feel confident about it, 5 years doesn't seem "too long"! (But I'm a slow learner!)
Tyler Ludens wrote:Rene, I guess I'm still confused - what is your source of income? Without an income, how would you pay for necessary tools and materials?
Tyler Ludens wrote:I think modeling home-scale permaculture is a worthy goal. Bigger goals are great and admirable! I just think that, for many of us, modeling home-scale permaculture is a sufficiently huge goal. Can your goals be scaled back for the time being, and ramped up again when things seem less overwhelming?
You also say that you don't have your systems in place, and that you don't have anywhere for people to stay to help you get your systems in place.
How do we stop this mass extinction of life that's happening right now? How do we get our climate back in balance?
Nathanael Szobody wrote:Permaculture is blood, sweat, tears, and years of hard work--and totally worth it!
Rene Nijstad wrote:
Then you wonder what the value is, and for who, of all the efforts we made.
Maybe the reasoning in many of the above comments is that our work only has value if you have products to sell to clients who buy?