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Volunteer Muscadine Grape (Scuppernong Type) Seedlings

 
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My triumph muscadine grape vine had a few seedlings growing underneath the mother plant that started growing last year.

It was really interesting after digging up the plants to transplant them, how they all had large differences in their top and root growth lengths.

I've got them planted to a new location where they can get more sunlight, and we'll hopefully have some grapes in a few years.

Here's a quick video of it.



Have you had any volunteer grape seedlings, or grown grapes from seed? How did they turn out?
 
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Here's an update of the best growing seedling. I have another one that seems to be growing pretty well.

This one has some good side growth and looks really healthy!
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Steve the issue with grapes is that they are predominantly male in my understanding. There are some male fruiting vines from what I understand, but they are not as productive if they produce at all. I plant about 3:1 female to male and use productive males.

I suspect your seedlings will be about 7:1 male to female and it takes (in my location) about 4 years of good growth to find out what they are. Throw deer and Japanese beetles in there and more like 8 years. I can see growing from seed in a new location maybe making it worth the uncertainty but otherwise grapes root so vigorously (in nature too) that like other tip rooting plants, I just don’t see the upside. Will be interesting to see how they turn out.
 
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Tj Jefferson wrote:Steve the issue with grapes is that they are predominantly male in my understanding. There are some male fruiting vines from what I understand, but they are not as productive if they produce at all. I plant about 3:1 female to male and use productive



That is interesting, TJ, I knew kiwi were like that but had never heard of it in grapes. They grow so well here I was planning an arbour. I guess I should aim for a significant  number of vines and aim to take some out later?
 
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What? What? Shock! Female and male grapes? I thought they were hermaphrodites. Good job you took photos of your flowers Steve!
Found this, might help. I add the photo because these websites change name over the years and then the link stops working. Had that happen before on blogs.
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The muscadine that I harvested the seeds from is a self fertile variety and has produced a huge amount of grapes so far this year without a pollinator.

I'm hoping that the offspring will have a good probability of being self fertile also, since it came from a self fertile muscadine.

Should be interesting to find out.
 
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