I have several huge black walnuts on my property and I want to guild one in the front yard and create a forest garden off it. Its about 50-60 ft right now with 2 apples just out from the dripline on the north side and a few black locust maybe 60 ft away on the north side. i read the guild in gaias garden and that seems to be what most folks reference in the info I have found. Except of course fo so many people saying the tomatoes don't work.
Anyway I plan on using persimmon, mulberry, serviceberry, jerusalem artichoke, mullein (its their already)
Also maybe goji, goumi, elderberry,
I was wondering if anyone had tried korean bush cherries or nanking cherry or possibly Jiougulan?
Also open to any other things you have seen work. Blessings
there was a thread on here about planting under black walnuts in the past..I'll try to do a search for it..the page I had saved is no longer available.
Bloom where you are planted.
Location: North Central Michigan
posted 8 years ago
Plants Observed Growing Under or Near Black Walnut* Trees Japanese Maples, Acer palmatum and its cultivars Southern Catalpa, Catalpa bignonioides Eastern Redbud, Cercis canadensis Canadian Hemlock, Tsuga canadensis Vines and Shrubs Clematis 'Red Cardinal' February Daphne, Daphne mezereum Euonymus species Weeping Forsythia, Forsythia suspensa Rose of Sharon, Hibiscus syriacus Tartarian Honeysuckle, Lonicera tatarica, and most other Lonicera species Virginia Creeper, Parthenocissus quinquefolia ** Pinxterbloom, Rhododendron periclymenoides **'Gibraltar' and 'Balzac', Rhododendron Exbury hybrids Multiflora Rose, Rosa multiflora Black Raspberry, Rubus occidentalis Arborvitaes, Thuja species ** Koreanspice Viburnum, Viburnum carlesii, and most other Viburnum species Annuals Pot-marigold, Calendula officinalis 'Nonstop' Begonia, fibrous cultivars Morning Glory, Ipomoea 'Heavenly Blue' Pansy Viola Zinnia species Vegetables Squashes, Melons, Beans, Carrots, Corn Fruit Trees Peach, Nectarine, Cherry, Plum Prunus species Pear-Pyrus species Herbaceous Perennials Bugleweed, Ajuga reptans Hollyhock, Alcea rosea American Wood Anemone, Anemone quinquefolia Jack-in-the-Pulpit, Arisaema triphyllum European Wild Ginger, Asarum europaeum Astilbe species Bellflower, Campanula latifolia **Chrysanthemum species (some) Glory-of-the-Snow, Chionodoxa luciliae Spring Beauty, Claytonia virginica Crocus species Dutchman's Breeches, Dicentra cucullaria Leopard's-Bane, Doronicum species Crested Wood Fern, Dryopteris cristata Spanish Bluebell, Endymion hispanicus Winter Aconite, Eranthis hyemalis Snowdrop, Galanthus nivalis Sweet Woodruff, Galium odoratum Herb Robert, Geranium robertianum Cranesbill, Geranium sanguineum Grasses (most) Gramineae family Jerusalem Artichoke, Helianthus tuberosus Common Daylily, Hemerocallis 'Pluie de Feu' Coral Bells, Heuchera x brizoides Orange Hawkweed, Hieracium aurantiacum Plantain-lily, Hosta fortunei 'Glauca' Hosta lancifolia Hosta marginata Hosta undulata 'Variegata' Common Hyacinth, Hyacinthus Orientalis 'City of Haarlem' Virginia Waterleaf, Hydrophyllum virginianum Siberian Iris, Iris sibirica Balm, Monarda didyma Wild Bergamot, M. fistulosa Grape Hyacinth, Muscari botryoides Sweet Cicely, Myrrhis odorata 'Yellow Cheerfulness,' 'Geranium,' 'Tete a Tete,' 'Sundial,' and 'February Gold' Sundrops, Oenothera fruticosa Senstitive Fern, Onoclea sensibilis Cinnamon Fern, Osmunda cinnamomea Peony, **Paeonia species (some) Summer Phlox, Phlox paniculata Mayapple, Podophyllum peltatum Jacob's-Ladder, Polemonium reptans Great Solomon's-Seal, Polygonatum commutatum Polyanthus Primrose, Primula x polyantha Lungwort, Pulmonaria species Bloodroot, Sanguinaria canadensis Siberian Squill, Scilla sibirica Goldmoss Stonecrop, Sedum acre Showy Sedum, Sedum spectabile Lamb's-Ear, Stachys byzantina Spiderwort, Tradescantia virginiana Nodding Trillium, Trillium cernuum White Wake-Robin, Trillium grandiflorum Tulipa Darwin 'White Valcano' and 'Cum Laude,' Parrot 'Blue Parrot,' Greigii 'Toronto' Big Merrybells, Uvularia grandiflora Canada Violet, Viola canadensis Horned Violet, Viola cornuta Woolly Blue Violet, Viola sororia *These are based upon observations and not from clinical tests. **Cultivars of some species may do poorly.
Plants That Do Not Grow Within 50 Feet of Drip Line of Black Walnut Herbaceous Perennials Colorado Columbine, Aquilegia caerulea Wild Columbine, Aquilegia canadensis Asparagus, Asparagus offinalis *Chrysanthemum Chrysanthumum species (some) Baptisia australis Hydrangea species Lilies, Lilium species (particularly the Asian hybrids) Alfalfa, Medicago sativa Buttercup, Narcissus 'John Evelyn,' 'Unsurpassable' 'King Alfred' and 'Ice Follies' Peonies, *Paeonia species (some) Rhubarb, Rheum rhabarbarum Trees Silver Maple, Acer saccharinum European Alder, Alnus glutinosa White Birches, Betula species Northern Hackberry, Celtis occidentalis Apples and Crabapples, Malus species Norway Spruce, Picea abies Mugo Pine, Pinus mugo Red Pine, Pinus resinosa Eastern White Pine, Pinus strobus Basswood, Tilia heterophylla Shrubs Red Chokeberry, Aronia arbutifolia Hydrangea species Mountain Laurels, Kalmia species Privet, Ligustrum species Amur Honeysuckle, Lonicera maackii Brush Cinquefoil, Potentilla species Rhododendrons and Azaleas, **Rhododendron species (most) Blackberry, Rubus allegheniensis Lilacs, Syringa species and cultivars Yew, Taxus species Blueberry, Vaccinium corymbosum *Viburnum plicatum tomentosum 'Mariesii' Annuals and Vegetables Transplants Cabbage, Brassica oleracea capitata Peppers, Capsicum species (some) Tomatoes, Lycopersicon esculentum Flowering Tobacco, Nicotiana alata Petunia species and cultivars Eggplant, Solanum melongena Potato, Solanum tuberosum double-flowered cole vegetables *Cultivars of some species may survive but will do poorly.
The authors express their appreciation to Drs. M. Scott Biggs, Department of Horticulture and Crop Science, and Harry Hoitink, Department of Plant Pathology, for their review and additional comments.
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My dear ol pappy didn't know you wudn't sposed to plant maters near a black walnut.
Ignernce is bliss I reckon. And since I already knew that bliss is fried green t'maters then I'm cipher'n that ignernce must mean that t'maters'll grow under a black walnut tree as long as you don't know that they aint sposed to grow there.
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posted 8 years ago
When creating a guild around a walnut tree or planting trees nearby the walnut tree, you need to keep in mind that black walnuts are toxic to certain plants and trees. Black walnuts contain a chemical called juglone and is most concentrated in the hulls of the nuts and the roots. It is even advisable not put the leaves and twigns on raised beds for mulch. The toxic effects of the tree can extend 50 to 80 feet from the tree. Plants that are sensitive to black walnut develope yellow leaves and are stunted in growth. Apple trees are sensitive to juglone.
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