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Mona Tobies
Post     Subject: Podcast 552 - Permaculture Smackdown 11 - Desert or Paradise Session 9 - Part 2

I really enjoy this series! I just bought the German kindel version because I sometimes wanted to know what was said before the translator messed around with it and it hast been quite enjoyable so far (also, as a native german speaker getting the translation makes no  Sense, even if it would have been cheaper).
I felt like there was plenty of description of the mixed forrest Holzer prefers, I think Pauls feeling of not beeing told the important parts might stem from clumsy translation using to many 'the's.
If someone would like to have an alternative translation for a particular part, feel free to message me or answer here!
Rhiannon Drake
Post     Subject: Podcast 552 - Permaculture Smackdown 11 - Desert or Paradise Session 9 - Part 2

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Paul’s permaculture smackdown continues into chapter three of Sepp Holzer’s “Desert or Paradise” with Mark, Opalyn, Kyle, and Katie.

“The symbiosis of interactions, as explained on page 13, plants supply needed nutrients to eachother – often one plant releases nutrients at a time when its neighbour needs them.  The earth, in polycultures, has ideal roots at all depths, and is kept moist at all times.  Deep roots, taproots, and shallow roots, create the perfect storage body for water and nutrients [unintelligible] are used throughout.  Each plant species has its own pest – bark beetles, the caterpillars of the cabbage butterfly, or carrotflies, only attack their respective hosts.  In reality, these so-called pests are useful regulators – they prevent over-population and keep nature balanced.  In polycultures, I might lose a few plants, but never the whole crop.  Whereas in monocultures, whole crops get wiped out.  When that happens, the farmer starts using pesticides.”  On that note, Paul is hosting a master gardener class in January 2022 that’s being taught by Helen Atthowe, who also taught in Missoula for 17 years, and even introduced Paul to Masanobu Fukuoka when he attended her first lesson!

“A polyculture containing at least 50 percent deciduous trees is the best fire protection.  The trees protect eachother as they contain lots of water.” It should be noted, however, that not all deciduous trees are equally fire-resistant.  Case in point: eucalyptus.  Despite some varieties being losing their leaves in winter, they are commonly known as “gasoline trees” for how much they like to catch fire.

“Trees and other plants with varying heights and density in a polyculture protect hail, storm, sun, and frost.  I make best use of this symbiosis with progressive cultivation.  Sun-loving plants shade more sensitive ones, and frost-sensitive plants are protected from the morning sun.  In polycultures, a natural rejuvenation takes place where plants self-seed and the older ones protect the new growth.  The habitat looks after itself and I have very little work as young offshoots distract game from the cultivated trees.”

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