I think I was bit by a black widow. We have tons of them in the yard and have had for years. Generally, they’re not a problem.
I was cutting saplings that had sprouted from one of our trees. They were tall and entangled with some of the tree’s branches. The spider must have fallen into my shirt.
A few hours later, I felt back pain. I thought maybe I twisted my back while working. My back and hip muscles felt stiff. I took Advil and went to bed.
The next day, the pain was worse. Again, I thought I twisted my back, but I noticed numbness. It was slight, but it radiated from my lower back, across my abdomen toward my belly button, and also down into my hip and even a bit down my leg.
By that night (more than 24 hours later), I noticed there was a rash. When I climbed up on my bathroom counter, it looked like 4 distinct spider bites and a bit of surrounding redness. They seemed to be around where the waistband of my shorts had been.
We’ve had smoke warnings due to wild fires. I’d had trouble breathing. My stomach felt queasy, but U’d been in pain.
I started adding it all up and suspecting a black widow bite.
I’m about 10 days out now. The muscle paralysis is gone. The numbness is mostly gone. The tight chest and queasy feeling gone. At the one week mark, the pain receded to just the bite marks, but intensified. The rash isn’t spreading. It seems slightly better.
Yesterday, the pain felt less deep, but the pain is still intense and nervy. The think I can best liken it to is a bad burn.
Today, the pain still seems less deep, still intense. It comes in waves, sometimes causes a slight muscle spasm. It’s worse at night, super itchy (but painful to scratch). The only thing that seems to give me relief is Advil.
I’ve been looking online to see if I can find others with similar experiences to get a sense of how long I can expect this to last.
Average cost of Eggs here is $4.42. That's an average of everything from the el-cheapo factory eggs to the local organic.
Check your local average here
Other prices in Whitehorse (Canada)
The price of 2 liters of Coca-Cola in Whitehorse is C$3.06
The price of 1 pair of men’s leather business shoes in Whitehorse is C$164
The price of Microwave 800/900 Watt (Bosch, Panasonic, LG, Sharp, or equivalent brands) in Whitehorse is C$175
The price of 500 gr (16 oz.) of local cheese in Whitehorse is C$11
The eggs I buy are about $7.50 per doz. Local organic. I can't raise them myself that cheaply, yet we are getting 6 laying hens in the Spring. For the entertainment!
Sage Boyd wrote:Hi everyone,
I am glad to see so many people here. I like to see that people *have* reasons for wanting to go the route of homeschooling. Though, I see a lot of responses with a Christian/"Young Earth" focus. I wonder if there are also unschoolers? People that teach evolution/creationism/intelligent design all as theories? Anyone Pagan? Atheistic? Universalist? Just sustainable/permiculture focused? I am wondering how mixed the population is, more than anything.
As for us, we are working on Kindergarten skills right now. Cutting, drawing, letter sounds and number recognition. Anyone else doing pre-school at home?
I have 3 children, 9, 5, and soon to be 3. I have preschooled the older 2 and I am just starting preschool with the youngest. My preschool curriculum is playbased but I focus on classifying/sorting, and pattern recognition. They tend to know their letters and numbers before starting school. I think early learning for homeschool is sometimes over looked a bit.
When we started homeschooling we were Bahá'is but had some deep spiritual experiences while travelling and now we believe in earth-based spirituality. Our homelife acknowledges spirit as a living thing and we try to maintain our connection to the earth and what she teaches us, and we feel her and listen to the lessons she teaches.
I live in Australia and there are a a few homeschoolers in my village but many in my wider area. We try and meet up with other homeschoolers regularly. Most are not doing it for religious reasons, though some are. Some are more 'school at home' and use bought curriculums. Many unschoolers, and many who live on permaculture properties and live sustainable lifestyles. Homeschooling is part of that lifestyle for them. Some have bad experiences with the school system, and there are some whose children have special learning needs that aren't met in the system (autism is a common one). There are unschoolers and radical unschoolers (democratic parenting) there are many travellers and road scholars around. There are kids who stop mainstream school because of bullying and social anxiety and lots of diagnoses that seem to fade away once they are homeschooled. Here in Australia there is a difference between homeschooling and distance education, Distance education the state sends you schooling material, homeschool you are on your own. You can use bought curriculums or make your own. I use my own pedagogy that I have developed and show that it matches the outcomes of the state syllabus as required by law. There are 2 years between state inspections. My 9 year old is in year 5 and my 5 year old is in year 1. They are both 'following their bliss' as my oldest is passionately into science. We recently made him a cabinet of curiosities for his ever expanding collection of specimens. My youngest son is into ballet and aspires to be a professional dancer, fulltime ballet training will be part of his schooling when he is old enough he will enter a part-time and then full-time ballet school. I have been amazed how early the kids have found their 'thing' and never wanted to let it go. I never really figured out my thing... wonder if the moment came and went and nobody noticed and I've been chasing it ever since!
My eldest son is dyslexic, but in a homeschool context hasn't found that an issue, it was simple to adapt his learning to suit his needs. I have learned a lot about language, linguistics and different approaches to learning reading and it has been really interesting. I occasionally tutor other kids if I meet someone who is struggling with reading. I have my own approach rather than following other peoples, but I have read widely and appreciate the montessori approach to having beautiful materials and a calm learning aesthetic, and when I read about unschooling my take home message was to not let my teaching get in the way of the learning. But I don't think it really looks like unschooling as others in my area do it. I like to continue hands on and play based learning right up through primary school. We study school in units each based on a theme. The theme builds. Particular concept through all the school subjects. My eldest has studied relationships and systems and last year finished with synthesis. My younger son is starting out the sequence of theme units with patterns and classification and will move on to elements. Everything ties in to a central big idea or concept. It allows us to have a formal curriculum, but also unschool as learning opportunities arise. We tend to gently dance through a theme and put things into a journal. We use an art journal so there are no lines and it becomes quite creative and beautiful when its full. Some people resent having to record for the department of education and get approved etc... but I appreciate that it forced us to keep record of a beautiful experience we have shared. We have a gizmo called a sprocket that makes like polaroid photos with sticker backs, so we take a lot of pics of hands on learning and stick them in and it has so many memories. My eldest has started a new cycle of learning I want to pursue until high school where he has themes and his learning is through stories and narratives. We don't have a timetable each day, but have a program and we work our way through it organically, usually one idea leads to the next.... I love this journey and I am glad I get to share it with them.
In Australia, metal cladding is very common.
Many of the issues mentioned above such as denting are not realistic, how often does one hit the side of a house or cabin.
If you look at aussie websites, installation techniques are well covered.
As for loosing colour, not a real issue.
That's awesome Sage, how is it? My family and I are looking for something like this, we're still a couple years off with debt and some other things. How is it though? I'd love to hear any details you have. At present, we're fairly unfamiliar and very uncomfortable with the IC idea. I'd love to learn more as it's something we'd love to do, but just aren't comfortable with.
Gail Gardner wrote:Where in Oklahoma are you all? It occurs to me that there could be small transplantable pecan and persimmon trees growing under or near older trees? There are two organic farms near me that may have seed this year. One will definitely be selling okra seed. Not sure of the variety, but I can find out. It is unusual because even older, larger okra are still soft.
I've been sharing permaculture videos with them hoping to encourage adding burms and planting permanent crops instead of or at least in addition to the plasticulture they're using now. Depending upon what kind of seed you need, there is usually a woman in Oklahoma selling large numbers of open pollinated organically grown seed for $50 on Craigslist. If you don't see the ad (look in Tulsa) I've probably got her contact information saved.
Maybe we can do some trading or I can raise some cash to hire some machine work done. If you use Skype, the easiest way to reach me is to connect with me there. (Username GrowMap).
We are about an hour and a half South of OKC. Haven't learned yet of any organic farms near us. Still doing a lot of learning what and who is around us here. I think we have decided to just go ahead and buy our Okra seed from Peaceful Valley Farms since they sell in bulk (by the 1/4 pound). We bought some late this summer and planted some. It is of course too late this year for it to do anything (I would guess anyway), but the seed came up well so I am happy with that. That being said, if I found local seed in bulk, I would buy that instead. The one you mention on Craigslist is Dan, TheSeedGuy (http://theseedguy.com/) outside of Tulsa. We have bought seed from him (I can't remember the lady's name that delivered the seed now - Sorry Ma'am.). I am extremely happy with TheSeedGuy's seed and packaging. They do not sell in bulk though simply because they are a small family farm. The seed they do sell is all heirloom seed and their packaging is fantastic. I compared the packages of seed they sell to that of Peac---- ------ Hmmm, am I supposed to name their name? I will let it go for now - I like both companies. The seed guy gives a VERY generous amount of seed in each package while the other ones have a tiny little dab of seed in their colorful packaging. BTW - the $50 package from TheSeedGuy.com is a value beyond compare. I can't say enough good about them (Note: I am not affiliated with them in any way - Just a happy customer...) We bought the $50 "55 Variety Heirloom Seed" package and was extremely surprised at how generously it was packaged. The big seed companies could take a lesson.
I don't often use Skype, but I think I have an account.
We are building up our homestead slowly - right now trying to gather up enough scrap lumber to build a modest house. Looks like we have a fair start:
There are upsides and downsides to communally owned land. Everyone here has " ownership" of their own structure but not the land it's on, like a mobile home. There are no deeds (which is causing issues for an absentee member that want to sell her structure but no one here wants to buy it, and she can't find anyone interested in both paying her price and living with the rest of us... Giggle). The founder has no special rights or privileges, but since he's been here longest, and he's oldest, and he knows most about maintenance... He gets a lot of deference.
The land trust protects us all, because the land can not be inherited if someone dies, or sold, or clear cut... It has to be used for the community into perpetuity.
That's a big comfort since I know of communities that have been destroyed when someone died unexpectedly, and the kids inherited/sold the land off. Or someone got serious ill/injured and needed money for medical expenses...
Have you looked on ic.org? There seem to be many there. Twelve tribes comes to mind. I'm at dancing bones (nh)... If it wasn't so far I'd say "come on up." I would hate for you to be this far from your kids, though.
If any of you are still looking, consider Central NH?
We have an established, but growing, community of 10 adults and 11 children called Dancing Bones. website (not very detailed) is http://www.dancingbones.net/
We don't have much permaculture going on, yet. There are some blue berry patches, and a lot of rasberry and blackberry bushes around. Many of us would like to get more going, and would like to have a common business going that could support us all so our families don't have to have people out working "paid" jobs daily. If you're onterested in more info, let me know?
Some interesting ideas here, but I think the simplest solution is two evil words most everyone here loathes "Homeowners Association". If people can set them up to force lawns and keep chickens out, why couldn't they be set up to force organic compliance, off grid power consumption, composting toilets, no more than 150 sqft of lawn..... and so on.
Visit local farmers markets. In the Midwest/Great Lakes region, it is really easy to hook up with small scale/mom & pop or amish dairy producers in the area. You might find someone closer than an hour away. The amish markets are a subculture that won't be found online.
boiling does condense the arsenic, yet it also changes the form of it... into a solid/non-absorb-able state, so it becomes inert and not harmful. Does that make sense? I'm not a chemist, so i don't understand exactly what changes, tho I know that boiled water, once cooled, is more easily absorbed by the body/plants... meaning that it is more efficiently used. You could boil the water and then run it through a simple cloth filter and you should visibly see the difference on the cloth. You will see fine grit, and the white specks are the arsenic. NO, boiling water does not remove arsenic, but it does render it safer.