Oh okay, sorry to hear. That's always frustrating. It is good how many people are doing this!! Very exciting. I've met a lot too selling at the flea market up here that are doing it but just, not on this site or anything. It doesn't seem like a very radical idea to the people here at all. Living in small campers, cabins is normal, they have goats and solar and all... I love it. Very laid back and accepting. Everyone seems like my ideas are a no brainier esp with all that's going on right now. I'd definitely be into trading/helping with projects once I get the basics set up here. If I do the wildlife thing I'll let you know. If you end up doing it first will you update us?
Hi! I just have gotten land in Greenup county and I'm curious if you ever did have the Fish and Wildlife send a biologist or have plans to? I have been very interested in that since I read your post and wondering what it might involve.
I would love to have someone come check out my trees and help me plan how to care for my new forest the best I can, that would be unreal. The place I just got is a beautiful 50+ acres but was previously owned by people who weren't on a trash run. They made a mess of about one acre, but an important acre where the creek flows and I've seen a lot of wildlife using the creek. Just curious how it went if you did it and what the process involved, what the people were like, what they went over with you, what they said about your spot, and what kind of input they have, etc.
I have just got land in Kentucky right south of the Ohio River. The ticks are pretty bad but not unbearable. Bug repellant seems to be enough to solve it if I have to be walking in the brush. One or two might get past. Dad went down the hill brush once without and was covered. It's not been as bad under the trees so far, cleared areas are fine.
Experimenting time maybe? Hopefully someone else will chime in that's more familiar with the clay soil. If you're just trying to build something firm under your feet it sounds like you've got a good plan to me. I had no major issues here for what it's worth. Just giving a heads up about the mold fungi issue and that mine got water sitting, but if they had been graded to drain excess runoff away I think it would have been fine, especially as the beds got higher. Long term if I had stayed there I would have probably made a more permanent sand and gravel over the chips, but that's a big undertaking. My soil did sort of slump off and creep into the pathways overtime without edging (maybe over three years after I cut them in) with them being lower, but it wasn't a significant problem where I had no bed left and it had disappeared into the pathway or anything, it just became a little less orderly looking raised bed.
I cut in some paths that way. The plants were super happy. My one wish was that I had graded them so the water would not sit in the paths at all. My comments may not be super helpful because it's a different area and I didn't have clay soil like that but I filled my pathways with mulch one time and probably won't do it again. I wouldn't call it a disaster or anything, but I am in Ohio in a river valley and we have tons of rain, several rivers, and muggy summers so they just sort of..grew rot and mold which was..okay but not ideal around certain plants and I had much better luck just letting ground cover/weeds/grass/moss grow between mine. Before I put it all back I was having a great patch of creeping thyme spill over and take over one path and was really loving that!
Okay, so still very positive from my view! My Dad is set on me starting all seeds this way now..😳
I got some old seeds to grow strong and healthy that I have never had luck with. I had some luffa seeds I had babied when I first bought them because I was so excited for them but never had one come up. Now like five years later after giving up? I have probably ten seedlings, strong and healthy!
My worst luck was with the squash and beans, some grew nothing but mold but I did get a few healthy strong seedlings from each bunch. Only two groups, one of kidney beans and one of acorn squash were completely gone.
The cucumbers went nuts. Overwhelmed but excited for all the pickles.
No one brand seemed any different, they were all kept different amounts of time and in different spots so I can't report on that.
Transplanting seemed to go smoothly. I didn't cut the paper towel, I soaked it and pulled it apart which seemed to pull the roots apart and untangle them and for the most part the paper pulp just fell away. When it didn't I just planted it too. I haven't noticed any casualties at all. There was some roots breaking that grabbed onto the paper towel but the plants have continued to grow strong.
Clothes are 100% tools. They can open doors and keep you safe in bad places. No amount of costuming can truly pass me off as normal for long though and I am a good costumer. Anyone who goes past the surface is going to hit that solid core of odd values and morals and interests quickly. And there are certain costumes I just refuse to wear. I dislike lies, and some days it feels like betraying myself and lying. Then what? It isn't easy going against the grain. It gets pretty lonely, it hurts to hear what people think, it isn't fun feeling like an alien, like you're surrounded by all these people but you're the Weird One over There.. so I guess, just saying that to be supportive of the topic. Frustration shared.
My strategies so far...
1. Know people across all walks of life. Learn about them, then stick to areas where we're similar, there are almost always ties. Beware artists, they mix with all classes of society and are therefore the most dangerous right? 😈
2. I let people be partial friends. Let them know the parts of me that make them comfortable and just don't bring the rest up. Most people can handle a small dose of different along with a big pillar of common ground
3. I make it confident, fun, light, make it a joke they can be in on.. my wild projects become like entertainment, which same days hurts my feelings, but sometimes is so fun to be the crazy one that's always got something new going on
4. I translate my interests so they match the current "costume". Words have connotations, I can have a whole conversation about foraging with people here and never use that word. The conversation may be over quickly if I pulled out Latin names of the plants. But everyone down here does it!! They love that I do it, but if you say it wrong..you might be out.
5. I have to be honest when I'm really feeling upset by someone's repeated criticism, which is hard and vulnerable but usually they don't intend harm, maybe are just awkward themselves and if you say it from a place of caring and kindness and make it clear you want to be on great terms with them they usually respond and try to not to step on toes, if they're mean about it..then
6. Be willing to cut ties. If they really really can't be kind to me on a greasy hair day, if they have no interest in being caring about how they affect me...I mean...are they really that important in my life? Very hard to do for me, but veeerrrry crucial. Even if they end up sticking around, having the willingness to cut them out if they can't be kind means I've truly stood up for myself and proves to them I expect a certain level of respect if they come around again. Having a barrage of negativity removed from daily inputs into my system is soooo amazingly freeing!!
7. I always am open for new alliances, they can be found hiding in unlikely places, I give EVERYONE a chance. I try to never judge from their current costume, the most unlikely people have had a secret fascination with my lifestyle
8.I have a nest of just.. safe comfort things, when all that crap is too much I just hide!!! Escape, good books, good tea, snuggle blankets, crying, stress eating, cute plants, crafting tutorials, only answering the phone for safe people, eventually I wind back up at bees and nut trees and cooking experiments and a renewed sense that I'm doing right by myself and can face society again.
9. Logically I work out if their way really might be better...usually while doing number 7. Really question my own beliefs. Sometimes I really learn and grow, sometimes I end up backing myself harder because their solutions dont make any ****ing sense for my life
10. Yeah, turn to those who have the same issues for sure if I have any in my life at the time! I like reading these posts to remind myself I'm not the only one, so thanks everybody 💚
I'm glad I did this, seemed to be a good way to pick out the good seeds. Two packs of seeds only spouted maybe a tenth of the time so it was a good filter.
Some just sat and rotted, some had only a few sprout, some went totally nuts and grew huge in half their noted germination time!!
So..all the tips were good. One at the edge got dried out and didn't do so well, they need to be checked every day, much easier to take them off of the paper towels the smaller they are. I did wash some of the beans and squash, I am giving them a little more time before I decide if it helped. They do like the warmth maybe a little too much.
Oh and Im still gardening with Dad at his place so most will be going there but he likes things organized and needs to know what's what and what's going on, no wild gardening there, limited bed space mowed grass etc so I figured it would help him to know what's what so we can label things.
Thanks Trace, I will keep that in mind if any sprout, and I will make sure to keep them wet. I do have a plastic tub I can put them in I'll do that.
To Dan and Allison yeah I usually don't have patience for it either, that's usually my solution too but I'm living gypsy style right now until my house sells, and I'm only allowed to have potted plants at my temp spot which have been travelling around with me to make sure they are cared for.. and I have limited pots and limited space in my truck and camper..that's how I got into this mess this morning. Silly to carry a bunch of seed trays back and forth for two weeks waiting on germination that are full of a mess of old unviable seeds. But baby seedlings I will carry happily :)
If there is a already post on this I haven't found it, if so please let me know!
Money is tight I'm in the middle of a move but apparently I can't go a year without plants, I'm in too deep...
I was offered a large amount of old seed packets anywhere from one season to four years old of mostly heirloom seed, and along with my own stash, after planting some and just wondering..Ive ran over myself and gone nuts this morning laying them all out on moist towels layered between plastic to try to sprout them to just mess with the healthy ones. If they all spout honestly I'll be in trouble..or Dad and I will both be because he's still got our big garden. I'm good at going overboard.
Has anyone tried this/had any luck with it/have any idea the best way if they do sprout to go about getting them moved to soil without hurting them? I washed some off, some not, does that make a difference? Should I have soaked any of them first or anything?
I like to use stevia as an extract, steeped in alcohol but it can be tooo sweet sometimes. I use licorice root also but mostly in spicy sweet things where that strong flavor fits. They to me have a similar flavor.. just opposite. Either licorice flavor with a little sweet or a lot of sweet with a little licorice flavor. Stevia to me has a weird licorice type aftertaste that I don't mind but friends and family aren't fond of. Using just a tiny bit of real sweetener sugar or honey or something seems to cut that flavor in drinks and such enough no one notices I've snuck it in so I can get a lot of sweet in a minuscule amount of actual sugar. Useless for baked good though that need the sugars for form or texture.
Also I personally think mixing my dark honey and dark maple syrups I use together gives things a little caramel flavor, yum.
Warren uses them all over the house for hooks/door handles, light pulls. They're decorations outside. We're the crazy hillbillies for sure. Does not seem to deter anyone... Random people stop just to say how much they love it, go figure, I guess they're all crazy hillbillies around us.
I make jewelry from them, crafts. I personally did not enjoy having dermestid beetles. I got them for Warren for his bday, we both were disappointed by the whole thing. Way too much fuss.
We go to those same dump spots, around here there are coyote dump spots. We just bury them, are getting ready to make a buried box tray system imo mother nature does the best job of cleaning them. Let her maintain the dermestids outside where they belong please and thank you.
I don't like bleach so the small delicates I soak in hydrogen peroxide or do a water bath for bigger bones then sun bleach them after either. The water bath is a long stinky process and draws curious critters but very effective. He soaks all his in bleach which is faster bc he has zero patience. It eats the bones so you have to watch them, but gives a true white quickly.
I am living traveller style up in Lucasville, back and forth to get the house finished until I get my own land, I could help once I'm settled.
I only know a few locals who are not so into reading, but I have a flea market spot once they reopen I will be meeting a loooot more. I like to write but of course won't know much about local issues or farming, gardening maybe but I could maybe help with layouts and editing and research etc. I do love to stalk real estate and a list and schedule of the current sherriffs sales in the area would have been nice.
Since Im having to start a new garden...if zombies hit right now I'd be relying on mama nature's mountain gardens so... Dandelion, poke, wild mustards, wild rose, wild ginger, liverwort, bloodroot, yellowroot, ginseng, mushrooms, etc.
I'm glad she's a more dedicated prepper than me...
I second the dietary posts. I felt awful all the time until I cut out most all the sugars and starches (even the healthy sounding ones) and chemicals and additives and all and switched to a diet based with greens and grass fed or wild meats and much higher in fats than what I was eating (just what I personally needed for a list of things like insulin problems/asd) It isn't a cure all and was not an easy thing to do but it seems to start me at a muuuch higher threshold every day and I'm off of all my daily dose medicines which either didn't help enough or I had really bad side effects from.
I also use herbal medicine. Its always helped me but I think taking herbs on top of a standard diet was for me just not significantly helpful. At the time it was more of just a hobby but on a clean, personalized diet its real medicine for me.
My reaction while reading.."Damn Dave... this is getting personal..." Lol If he heard my plans he would for sure have a heart attack!! Cost is a huge factor for me but I'm still considering safety first because ...what I have planned is to not end up homeless and theres no house less safe than that. 💚 It's just perspective. Dave has got some very different concerns than I do. Fo sho.
My mom will be moving with me too, after I get things set up. Good luck to you both!!
To me it sounds like it will be an amazing, beautiful, practical, comfortable home! You have done a crazy amount of planning and thought of everything!! I love it. I hope you've gotten some replies for help. I also would love to see progress photos.
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Tonight, for example. I tried a new recipe (sweet potato gnocchi), and it was a disaster. So, dinner wasn't ready on time or, in the end, at all, so everyone has had to just grab what leftovers they could. I couldn't clear out the area of the duck pen I wanted to, but I got some of it. I couldn't get to both grocery stores in the plans for today, but I made it to one and got the needed bread flour. Okay is good enough. Some is good enough.
Amen. I have so many sweet potato gnocci type nights and grocery trips are an daily event all to themselves.
That's true about the cars for sure. How big they are helps. I've been asked many a time to offer a small hand to reach some weird spot in a compact car. My truck is 93 and I could fall in never to be seen again just reaching for the oil dipstick. It's glorious.
I like old things too, though I don't have a lot of time to mess with them I hope to soon. The only sewing machines I wouldn't let anyone get me to give up were the two that are about 100 years old..and one is treadle so I get that.
Another Ohio person! Yes, Ohio weather doesn't like to make up its mind. Especially with the tornadoes now increasing. Yuck.
That's smart, bad lighting makes everything harder. This house is so dark I mostly use shop lights and my studio lights only buy bulbs when I break them, which says nothing about the light bulb just my motor coordination. Oh now you're making light bulbs too... That would be a very cool project. It would take showing off your shop to an unheard of level.. "I made it myself.. including the light bulbs!"
The other tinkerers may roll their eyes but they will be secretly jealous.
It must be a fairly logical solution then if so many have it. I was reading several other older posts about autism and aspergers last night and there seemed to be a lot of us diagnosed and un. That's reassuring I think.
Hell yeah, sounds like you've got it all planned out! Very exciting. That looks like a perfect shop building. Like a TARDIS is good for sure, since it sounds like you might be doing a version of time travel with everything you're going to be making and after you get alternate fuels and electrionics going who knows maybe space too. Very cool.
Thanks for the welcome Pearl, I've been creeping for years now, I love it. Usually there's so much to soak up I never get to replying I am slow at organizing ideas. I just quit my job job to move so hopefully I will be able to do more than read now 💚
Thank you for the post Ryan and thank you everyone who responded. It's nice to hear from others that stuggle with this and that it can be done. I have also been treated for various mental health and physical disorders for years, ASD/PTSD/a list of related issues. For me it's not a question of how do I do this with a disability. Doing this is my solution to my disability because I can't do anything else very well! I belong in my garden better than anywhere else it seems and it never judges my issues and just breathing around the plants is like a lifeline when Im stuck and can't talk or move well. I'm in the middle of a stressful move and reading all this has really reassured me it will work out and I'll be okay. Thank you again everyone.
Ryan it sounds like you have some amazing plans for your food forest already, some really good ideas for building your life around what you can do. That's a lot of interesting business ideas! I have a million too, it's easy to get tangled up in them all sometimes. Which one will you start with?
Some of my solutions I have used...Small, square foot beds for higher maintenance plants, raised beds, gravity drip irrigation from rainwater barrels, companion planting. The black raspberries are my sacred Preying mantis hatching sites. I haven't done livestock being in the city. I let a lot of things go wild. Tomatoes and pumpkins growing from piles of compost aren't organized or orderly but they're still tasty. I eat my weeds, so there's motivation to pick them. I plant heirlooms and hoard seeds, I scatter and plant seeds in their respective area whenever I can, if it's not the right time of year or they're three years old I will plant them just in case, because better planted than forgotten and I forget everything. Usually I get nice surprises. As everyone has said..things happen when they happen. If I do it two days late and had to make up for a bunch of damage I could have prevented..it's still done. There's no other way it would have happened, there's no one else who would have done it. It is what it is. If something is picky and dying or the project just isn't going well at all, roadblock after roadblock for me is just a sign I'm trying to force the world to work my way and that it's time to look for a path that's trying to make itself instead.