Waterfowl - ducks and geese mainly can destroy clear water instantly. Muddy beasts! They use it a ton to wash their beaks out.
There is a distinction between clean and clear however. Both can harbor microbes and none shall know. Water can still be clean, even when its muddy. It all depends on how long its sitting there. Stagnant water breeds nasties. But as long as itnis changed daily, you should be fine.
It is going way too far to say that drinkable for a critter is drinkable for a human. We are far more delicate than they are. They can drink runoff, or stream water no problem. We cant though. The clearest stream water can harbor giardia or lead or other metals. That would murder a human. But a critter? Nah. Not so much. Our well has to be filtered for the trace amounts of lead in it. That could affect our kids. But our ducks? They dont mind.
Of course the other half of this is that the animals will drink runoff all on their own. So I think the reality depends on the animal, the general health of the animal, and the goal with raising them.
For instance the goal with our ducks is to have them forage as much as possible all day long. As a result they get more “wild water”.
So perhaps the question comes down to do they have enough, is it kept topped off, especially on hot days, is it refilled daily at least, and is there a cleaning schedule. I think proof of this is more about thinking through the whole process and having a written plan more than proof in pictures. Whats the schedule and plan, vs snapping a pic right after its filled
Congrats on your farm animal acquisitions! Ducks are great. They are way more low maintence than other farm beasts. Ducks love the water so its great you have that pond. As they are farm ducks and not wild ducks they probably wont fly. Most tractor supply ducks are khaki cambell which were bred to lay eggs. For most of the year a duck will lay 5 out of 7 days and they will molt for a few months. Ducks lay eggs generally before 9 am.
I recommend creating a predator proof pen for night time sleeping. It might take them a few days to get the routine down to go in the pen, but they will figure it out - especially if you offer food. Most of the ducks we have ever lost have been to predators in the night. As these ducks are typically heavier than wild ducks they have trouble escaping predators. Thus the term sitting duck.
Aside from predator proofing, they need clean water all day long to wash their bills. If you find you arent getting many eggs, try increasing the feed. It takes energy to make eggs - no energy no eggs. During the summer they will need far less than in the winter.
Ducks develop habits and like to have a routine. After a few days of the same thing they will get used to it and do whatever it is as a group.
Ducks are omnivores and eat almost anything. They get our kitchen scraps as well as leaving all garden cuttings for them. Chicken feed works just fine. Sunflower seeds. They love bugs. Great foragers!
Khaki campbell ducks are naturally skittish and may never be friendly. They will probably always keep their distance. There are other breeds that are less skittish and those are the ones you see people holding or hand feeding.
The good news is that if you stick to a similar routine each day, they will adapt to your routine after a few days. What we found that helps is to have a consistent voice call when you feed them or move them. Something as simple as her duck duck duck! Use it a bunch and they will recognize that they get fed after that call and typically come running. It might take a week before they adapt.
Once your drake is mature enough, which should happen about the same time as the females start laying - pretty much all the eggs are fertilized. Especially with your tiny flock. The sperm can live in the female for about a week making all eggs fertilized during that week. So even if they only mate sporadically all the eggs should be fertilized.
Thank you Paul, for the idea!
Thank you Shawn, for making it happen!
Thank you Tracy, for making beautiful pictures and graphics stuff behind the scenes!
Thank you Loved ones of Paul, Shawn, and Tracy for supporting them through this emotional time. You don't know what a Fuck Tonne of work looks like until you do a Kickstarter. This was phenomenal!
Thank you Secret Volunteers for doing the top secret, behind the scenes stuff that no one notices because you did an amazing job getting it right!
Thank you, everyone, who contributed to the rewards! F'in awesome stuff!
Thank you Permies Staff for offering support and keeping permies running smoothly!
Thank you to the permies community for spreading the word!
Thank you everyone who spread the word!
Thank you to everyone and anyone else I forgot to put on this list!
Thank you to everyone who pledged and made this project possible!
paul wheaton wrote:I remember when we did loads of spreadsheets early on --- I have a vague memory that if we hit $150k i might be able to get a well at the lab. I won't know if that's true for quite a while.
Lets hope so! Hydration at the domination station!
Shawn Klassen-Koop wrote:At $100 we need to print one of them here so that we can sign it. And then we have to ship that one overseas. Which brings the price higher.
Hmmm... To avoid a repeat of the double-shipping issue in the future, I wonder if it would make more sense to not bake in the 'single signed copy' and instead allow folks to trade-in, say, 5 unsigned physical copies for a single signed copy after the Kickstarter is over? That way folks who actually want a signed copy can still get one, but they don't force double-shipping charges onto the 95% (or whatever) of folks who don't care about signatures?
So pledge level entitles a person to X unsigned physical copies. After the Kickstarter, send out an email. They can trade 1 unsigned physical in for 3 digital, or 5 unsigned physicals for 1 signed physical.
Note: A 5-to-1 conversion from unsigned to signed is purely arbitrary — you'd have to look at costs and labour to arrive at a more realistic number.
Im not sure that 95% wouldnt want the signatures. It was a pretty important feature when the book was discussed pre-kickstarter. The book signing and audiobook were the two most popular additional features.
I can totally understand the desire to reduce shipping- especially overseas. Earlier Shawn posted a good way to get the goodies at $100 and choose all digital for that, and then pay less for shipping by creating a second pledge for just the book at that pledge level. You come out way ahead of the full Shipping charges.
Im sure at this point, your thoughts are interesting to consider for the next kickstarter, but probably too late to finagle all that now
Im not on the staff here, but it takes less than a minute to make an account and is no big deal. It would be a shame if anybody thought that the gift codes werent worth that minute to make an account. But even to me it doesnt sound like the backend work of making that happen is worthwhile.
People are always welcome to create an email just for this if they dont want to use their normal one.
paul wheaton wrote:The pie chart, as is, took shawn and I about four or five hours to nail down the official budget. And then it took me an additional three hours to make the pie chart (I wanted to make sure that each piece of pie was sized to exactly the correct size; and it is hard to write with a mouse!).
So while I very much like the idea of updating the pie chart, I suspect we won't be able to get it done (when mixed in with all the other things) before the kickstarter is over.
Next time then. Maybe while making the next kickstarter make two pie charts while you have time to spare - one for the initial funding and one for a super stretch amount
Bryan C Aldeghi wrote:I like the “armed with a stack... “as the closing statement. I think it should replace the tipping paragraph entirely and close the statement.
Shawn and I spent over an hour polishing this message. Here is where we ended up:
Only 3 days left for REAL change with less effort and less money ... …. instead of playing on a rigged political playing field.
This project solves world problems by teaching thousands of people how to take small steps that build a better world. Steps that also put more money in their pockets and make a more luxuriant life for them. And for you.
If you put in a few bucks, you get lots of stuff, AND you further a project to REALLY make a positive difference without being angry at bad guys.
Because so many people want to see this sort of approach be a huge success, all backer levels are loaded with lots of stuff. But the stretch goals have super loaded the $100 level.
As part of doing this project, we have learned that audiobooks have a far larger audience than we ever thought! But we have also learned that making audiobooks is expensive. So we are trying to get to the point where we can create an audiobook and we are coming up short. And we only have 3 days left.
If you have enjoyed the forums, podcasts, videos, emails, articles, presentations, and all the help we have given to thousands of people … imagine we have done a bit of a street performance and there is our hat. Only... if you throw in even a single dollar, you will magically get a collection of movies, books, and other fun things - including several to take home and share with others. I like to think that this is the most you will ever get for a single dollar. And it simultaneously fuels our greater effort.
Ladies and gentlemen … the book, the presentation, the gifts, the challenges, the whole show … and the hat ...
On the final paragraph I think the “If nothing else” sounds like a weak closing bit.
here is the new message:
This is an attempt to solve world problems. Not with politics, but with thousands (millions?) of people doing small things that not only makes things better for everybody, but puts more money in their pockets and makes a more luxuriant life for them. And for you.
If you put in a few bucks, you get lots of stuff, AND you further a project to REALLY make a positive difference without anger or politics.
Because so many people want to see this sort of approach be a huge success, all backer levels are loaded with lots of stuff. But the stretch goals have super loaded the $100 level.
If you are willing to tip your waiter, waitress, barista, pizza delivery, can you tip the hundreds of people that are trying to make global positive change?
Maybe add "armed with a stack of these books, you could meet gift giving obligations as well as introduce change within your own sphere of influence. And maybe when you visit with these same people, you will seem a bit less crazy and bit more brilliant?"
I like the “armed with a stack... “as the closing statement. I think it should replace the tipping paragraph entirely and close the statement.
This is an attempt to solve world problems. Not with politics, but with each of us doing a small thing that not only makes things better for everybody, but puts more money in your pocket and makes a more luxuriant life for you.
If you put in a few bucks, you get lots of stuff, and you further a project to REALLY make a positive difference without anger or politics.
Because so many people want to see this sort of approach be a huge success, all levels are loaded with lots of stuff. But the stretch goals have super loaded the $100 level.
If nothing else, if you are willing to tip your waiter, waitress, barista, pizza delivery, can you tip the hundreds of people that are trying to make global positive change?
I like it. Its snappy and to the point.
On the final paragraph I think the “If nothing else” sounds like a weak closing bit. Almost like you throw up your hands and are pleading. You are a big strong man with a bug strong kickstarter. Maybe something like “for the same amount that it takes to tip your waitress... you can tip the scales to help make global change”
Is there a current setting or could there be a setting where the full text of a new post in a thread I am subscribed to can be sent in the alert email. Currently it says a new post has been put in so and so forumn. Instead, could there be the option of a new post is in so and so forumn and here is the full text, or first four lines of text or something
I listened to the recent podcasts where it seemed like some people were unclear as to why the kickstarter was still asking for money after it was fully funded. To me that says that those people are actually unclear as to what the big mission is. What does that money enable you guys to do better/ further/ clearer/ broader etc. The WHY sounds like it is lost on a group of people. Perhaps doing a big reminder of the why of this kickstarter.
Going along with that, you initially laid out a pie chart detailing what all of the money was needed for. Maybe create an updated pie chart that shows what the stretch goal money is for. Even better - show a pie chart for the current amount of money - and then show an extravagant pie chart of what the craziest big stretch goal would look like. The Pie charts explain the how are you going to use this money
In a separate line of thinking you might take an opportunity over the next days to remind people the crazy deal they get with this kickstarter. At $100 you get things worth a ton for sure. At a $1 you get things worth a ton for that matter. Do a reminder that this deal only lasts for five more days and after that its $—— Also, I have never heard what the book will be retailing for. Maybe share that so people know that they wont be able to get it for anywhere near this price in six days.
By this time anybody visiting permies has seen the ads and such. Perhaps for the final week change the wording on the ads and make them sing - my thought is to have black friday in april. Get the ads along the line of save $500, or deal of 89% off. Five days only. Remind everybody to shop now. The winter holidays are coming - be the first to have all of your shopping done.
paul wheaton wrote:Sepp and the production company for "Desert or Paradise" said we can dole out the movie digitally. The only catch is that they never made a digital version - just the DVD version. They said we could have it if we could pull the video off of the DVD.
I have the DVD.
Any chance there is somebody in the missoula area that is savvy about this sort of thing that could give it a try?
Im not in the missoula area, but have been very successful rippings dvds in the pasts. Have done dozens of mainstream ones. If you want to ship it I can rip it. :)
Here is some sample text to use if anybody needs help reaching out - the more personal you make it the better, but this should help:
Hello [group/person name] !
My name is [your name] and I am an alumni of [said institution]. I want to tell you about a special project I am currently involved in. This project is entirely about making the world a better, stronger, more resilient place. I am involved in order to ensure that people can learn to make better stronger more resilient decisions every day. The project is a book that challenges most people’s current understanding of environmentalism and pushes us all to do better. It is called the Better World Book.
I am writing to get your help in spreading the word about this book. The authors of this book is Paul Wheaton (www.Permies.com) and Shawn KlassenKoop and their goal is to ‘infect’ minds with positive ways to be a true steward of our precious resources. The book is written and is being funded through a Kickstarter campaign. The goal was reached in just 3 hours! Now the goal is to reach more people. There are a ton of fabulous incentives for supporting the kickstarter.
Please share this email, or this link with those you know, organizations you are in, or anybody who will appreciate it. http://kck.st/2U3j5Bu
Well, what about tweetstorming something out to famous people outside of permaculture - like celebrities who have a cause : michelle obama and the whitehouse garden, bill and melinda gates do a lot of relief work in africa, david attenborough, jane goodall, Leo dicaprio, angelina jolie, cate blanchette, brad pitt, al gore, ed begely jr, jamie oliver...
Create a theme song or music video
Get a popular band or a local band to perform said theme song
Capitalize that sex and humor sells and give some attention to making it sexy or funny.
Create a new fresh video to share
Create a video of paul being funny or doing standup - essentionally being himself :)
Create a billboard
Hand out flyers at the missoula market
Have a booth at the missoula market
Get the green society at the local university involved
Write a rap song about the book
I like the idea of providing a few stretch incentives at lower levels also - create a round it up campaign like they have at goodwill. Round up to $50 or whatever
Paul and co can do the dance from the thriller video as a promotional bit
Reach out to all of the tv personalities on hgtv or the food network. They tend to like food and green things. Some of them might feel a connection
Fyi to those who have already upgraded - you will know if you did it right because the total you are pledging will have shipping on top. So if you upgraded to the $100 level it will show your pledge as $115 because of shipping. If your pledge is $100 even then you didnt select the $100 reward level - you increased your pledge at the previous reward level.
So if you want the $100 reward incentives go back and select the $100 reward box and make sure it includes the total of $115 for shipping
A new pledge cancels the original one. And it will confirm what your pledge was before, and what the new one is. Once you confirm that it is correct, will change the pledge. The trick is to choose the $100 reward level, and not just input a custom number for the lower pledge. You need to select the box for the new pledge - if you just input a new number but still have the $20 pledge selected, you wont get the incentives at the $100 level. It essentially says I want the incentives at the $29 level, and want to add an additional amount on top of that without other incentives
Im not sure exactly what the scuttlebutt says about the $10 category, but perhaps its the motivation behind the scuttlebutt that is more important. I suspect that people who have the money to support the kickstarter below the $100 level might have some wiggle room to offer a little more money, but not be able to offer $100. I wonder if any disgruntlement lies in the financial distance between $10 and $100. The financial distance between $10 and $50 is much less. Perhaps people would be willing to bump up their donation somewhat but not all the way to $100 if there was a stretch goal in the middle.
Bryan C Aldeghi wrote:A behind the scenes of all this as a how to duplicate some of the success would be a good goal.
Please tell me more about this idea!
I was thinking that there are two stories with this project. The first is infecting minds with permaculture and everything that is related to the content of the book.
The second is just as interesting if people wanted to duplicate the success of this project for another project. In my mind, that includes how you guys concieved of the book, what the evolution was. How did you come up with a list of chapters and content? How were all those topics fleshed out? What it took to go from kitchen table discussion to actual product? What were the challenges? What are the specific tools you used in creating the book ( as in what programs/ apps/ websites helped you to create the actual thing)? How does one make a book a legit book that can be sold in a bookstore? What about cover art and interior artwork- how does one make that happen? Once the product was finished, how did you concoct this kickstarter and make that successful? How do you intend on marketing the book after this?
All of these details are important things to others learning how to create such works.
I think a podcast or a video could cover those topics with show notes. I dont think it needs to be written or anything too formal. Just how does one follow the path you paved without starting from the very begining. All of this would be the HOW of making this project.
After having read all the thoughts and comments, Im at a point now where I want Shawn and Paul to ensure they get some slet of reward themselves for doing all this. Breaking even on a project this big isnt appropriate. They shiuld be wildly rewarded for all this. All of us backers are being wildly rewarded already, especially with all of the early bird rewards.
I think that any stretch goals from here should be ones that dont require a ton of output from pail and shawn. Perhaps once the kickstarter reaches some serious money something like an audiobook, or other specific new content.
If other people are offering content, thats great. Maybe other stretch goals can be discounts on existing content or something. With all the talk about an audiobook, maybe include the complete gob of podcasts somewhere as a stretch goal. Or maybe seeds or cuttings from somebody to soread around. Or something from the ants at wheaton labs. Or more thoughts from Jocelyn. Or months of PIE on permies. But I think that overall Paul and Shawn should be engerized from this experience and not worn too out so that they can still love all this and work on future things.
Perhaps some of the stretch goals can be specific projects at Wheaton Labs and to have then documented for everybody. I heard a well mentioned. Im sure there are dozens of others ones big and small. I know that some neat projects are planned for the pdc and appropriate tech course this summer. Some of those might need funding as a stretch goal. Im sure that by projects being funded at wheaton labs, we can all learn from it in the process.
Another thought is promoting the idea of birthdays and winter holiday gift giving as a theme. All of the material already has multiple gift codes with it, so maybe some sort of marketing talking about xmas in april or something. However it proceeds I think that Paul and Shawn have already exceeded my expectations. So thank you greatly!
What an interesting challenge you are moving into. I love it.
In this situation I would make sure I have figured out the essentials first- food, water, shelter and sanitation for you. All of your decisions can be thought of as being along a spectrum based on time, finances and resources. I think that large tarps, 5 gal buckets, cardboard boxes, and duct tape will be your best friends right now
Water: one end would be getting a few tarps and 5 gal buckets to collect rain water. Next along the spectrum might be using more permanent and larger water barrels/ ibc totes for rain water. Above that might be working with the well to get the pump and well working. There are ways to use solar panels and well pumps. The best way is to have enough water storage so that the pump runs during the day and fills the tanks and then night time water comes out of the tanks
Food: get a garden in place for you first. Before trying to plant 7 acres of cleared land - create a section just for your food and plant that first. The more you can produce on hand, the less travel and the fewer dollars spent at the store. Try to get some of the higher calorie crops priortized like potatoes, beets, beans, etc. grains and fats are probably best left to the grocery store for now. Compare prices at the grocery store. You can do a lot of research online. You might find that in reality it costs less to order from amazon and get delivered directly vs the store. Do the math- it is your friend when on a shoestring budget
Shelter: definately do not build a crude cabin by the road. The time and effort spent on that will be far better spent on a million other things. As spring is coming quickly, try to deal with leaks first. That will ruin a house faster than anything. Instead of working to fix the roof, use large tarps and secure them down. You can fix it for real later.
Shelter can run the range from an outdoor tarp in the good weather all the way to a snug and tight house. Either way, a key component js keeping things dry. Wet things rot and mold. Dry things dont.
Like somebody else said, start with one single room to fix up and live, work, etc in there. Cooking might be easiest outside. At the most primitive is a campfire then perhaps a rocket cooker, then a grill ( which many people freecycle/ craigslist in the spring when they get a new one- keep an eye out) new propane tanks are expensive. However if you have one to trade in, it is truly reasonable compared to the amount of fuel you get. Ive have gotten a number of totally cruddy tanks that could never be reused off of freecycle, and then turn them in and exchange them for brand new ones.
Folded cardboard makes decent insulation from cold weather when it can be kept dry. The cardboard can easily be gotten free
Keep all the seeds and root pieces of any vegetable you eat and replant them. Some might be sterile and not grow, but others will.
If you can clear out a room now and stop any leaks now, the rest of the house can probably wait till winter.
Sanitation: the simplest toilet is a pit in the ground. Just make it far enough away from things that you dont contaminate your crops or water. A bucket in the house works. Try to layer any system with straw or sawdust or leaves. Some sort of carbon in there.
Shower and bathing can be done with rain water - a solar shower is cheap and is basically a black back left in the sun to heat up and then manuvered to be above you. Sponge baths are simple
And easy also. Many people get a membership to a cheap local gym just for showers
If it were me, I would put effort into getting egg laying poultry before any meat animals. Raising, butchering and selling said meat it a tough thing off the bat. Especially with the regulations on doing it all legally. Eggs are much simpler and more widespread. You could even transition a laying flock to be stew chickens. But I would find other farm ways to make money other than meat selling until you are more established. Its easy to get overdrawn with animals on the farm when other things arent settled. But then you are stuck with the animals. Instead put more effort in that nursery and greenhouse idea. Less work and commitment up front, but with decent returns.
Bryan C Aldeghi wrote:I thought I knew how to have it be clickable in my profile...but it isnt yet. so somebody show me how!
It's tricky. You have to use the bb code tags rather than html:
Awesome! Thank you for explaining that. Now it works! Therefore - to those who have already supported this amazing project and to those who want to help spread the word, I challenge all to put it in their signature on Permies! Go!
Here is a challenge - for those who have supported the kickstarted, or support Paul and Shawn's world domination, add the kickstarter to your signature. Instead of just Paul and Shawn, lets have everybody have it as a signature until the kickstarter ends
I thought I knew how to have it be clickable in my profile...but it isnt yet. so somebody show me how!
Those sound like good stretch goals to me. Pay those who develop all this... and ensure the World Domination Station stays hydrated!
Maybe there is even a permie person who is reading all this who can help dig a well for you in montana... or who know a person... or who has the inside track... or who has $600k... etc. Anybody? dehydrated leaders just arent so effective anymore. They tend to all shriveled instead of squishy and robust.
By the time I logged in 3.5 hours after it launched, you were more than fully funded.
Well done! Thats pretty impressive and amazing.
Time to set some more challenging stretch goals! And now maybe the two of you can get some well deserved reward for yourselves for all this work. A vacation.... a massage... new earth moving equipment... wiggle room in your budget.... or just something shiny. :)
Of course with success like this the next book is something on the rise of the permies empire, and how to slam dunk kickstarter :)