I’ve grown to love the soil knife over the years after dismissing it as an actual tool…however, my day job has progressed into computer work and less involvement with plants. I long to grow beyond the necessity of the day job and a desire/need to return to the land and begin actively building an income from our own homestead.
We’ll be following your journey as we begin our own!
Joseph Lofthouse wrote:
Dave: I'd like to suggest that it's not about the food at all. It's only about your boundaries. If I served you dirty motor oil in a soup bowl, you would not eat it, no matter how much peer pressure I applied. If I offered you a glass of rat-poison on ice, you would say no. So we have established that you have boundaries, and can enforce them. Now it's only a matter of enforcing them consistently. There are plenty of ways of doing that simply, "I don't like sugary things", "I'm already way over my carbohydrate limit for today", "I'm a picky eater". You don't have to explain, convince, shame, or evangelize. It's your body, you get to choose how you nurture it. It's really hard to get someone to put something in their mouth and swallow it if they are not cooperating.
Seems to be a general theme in your life to frequently be fussing about what others think about you or your choices. My strategy, is that I am not responsible for other people's thoughts. They can think anything they like. About me, or about anything else. My general assessment of the state of the world, is that people are way to self-absorbed to think about me at all.
Figure out how to love yourself, and your choices, and to really nurture yourself. Then what other people think won't matter at all.
What's the worst that could happen if you say no to your mother's suggestion that you eat her roundup-ready bean pie? Will she beat you? Will your father? Will she scream at you? Will she sulk for a week? More likely she will be proud, and think something like, "Wow, Dave is maturing and learning to set boundaries". Anybody that truly loves you will be thrilled that you are setting boundaries around your food intake. If someone is not thrilled about it, and attempts to coerce you into eating poison, then you might be better off without them as part of your life.
I suspect Dave prefers to pick his battles...and sometimes a good excuse / white lie is the most effective way to do so. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ann Torrence wrote:...Azure Standard has as good prices as anywhere for organic bulk items if it's not at Costco. I was not as happy with the few fresh produce items I've tried from Azure. Their powdered milk should be just fine for making yogurt, way cheaper than Organic Valley milk if you can't find local. Costco has upped their organic offerings, things like canned tomatoes are cheaper by far from them, so you have to shop...
You have an upfront investment to make in storing said bulk items in containers to keep critters out. Don't even think about trying to store open sacks.
Jocelyn did a thread not long ago on the virtues of various containers, glass and what not.
Get a rice cooker. It's the best way I've found to cook beans. Might have to run the cycle twice, but they won't dry out and are hard to overcook that way. Fresh, not ancient, dried beans like the ones Azure sells cook way faster than grocery store beans.
Cutting the prepared crap might drop 20-40% of your food bill. Dropping 80% is likely going to require raising staples (potatoes?), meat and dairy.
Apples should be coming in soon in the Bitterroots. Get a couple boxes to store for winter. If you started a bed today and covered it with 6 mil plastic per Elliot Coleman's excellent instructions for low tunnels, you can probably raise enough greens to keep from getting scurvy until the new year.
I have been looking into Azure Standard for several reasons lately.
Also...need to find Jocelyn's thread on the virtues of various containers.
Rice cooker to cook beans? That's awesome...might be time to break out the old Zojirushi again!
s. lowe wrote:Are the different cultivars of comfrey reputed to be good.for different purposes? I've only ever know comfrey as a medicinal (largely to be applied topically) and all the comfrey I've ever worked with has been either wild or the cutting I've been toting around the last 5 years that I was given off of a 30 year old cluster who's gardener gave no name. What is the purported difference between these bocking's? Also why is it called bocking?
Brian Jeffrey wrote:This year I have a clump of white flowered comfrey. Right smack in the patch of blue and pink flowered plants. And a second white one popped up between two apples trees. weird.
Interesting. The leaves on your white variety look different than mine. Do you have any idea if it's bocking 4, 14 or officinale?
I was told by the person who planted it that it all is blocking 14. It has been in the ground for over 5 years. Pure speculation, but it may be possible the plants are just showing different expressions from the different microclimates?
Personally - the differences I can see between Bocking 4 and 14 are negligible.
This comes from +20 years experience in the green industry - but I can't propagate and sell from this bed.
I'm wondering if I just begin the process of digging and moving it all over the property now.
Start fresh beds for propagation new and keep better track of my plants for sale.
This is probably going to be the best approach...especially if I advertise free "you dig" comfrey.
Well...this thread has helped flesh out some ideas.
For example...a few years ago - I was able to obtain a free haywagon from work.
It was a haywagon that we converted into a field wagon for carrying material to field dig trees.
The crews eventually got a truck and the old haywagon / tractor setup became obsolete...
...and the owner of the company offered it to me at no charge if I hauled it off the property. I did so.
This thing has been sitting here for several years now...and our plan was to turn it into an egg mobile.
Besides getting aeration in the pond...the egg mobile have kind of been the things on our minds.
So - after some discussion with mom (and dad), we're going to do the following:
1) Finish building out the walk-in cooler in the barn for our tenant farmer / market farmer (at least functional, not quite finished)
2) Finish building out a "clean room" in the barn for the commercial fridge / freezer for usda fermented food inspections
3) Finish workshop space in barn
4) Work on egg mobile and/or get aeration in the pond...but focus on getting barn functional first
Other ideas such as food forest, livestock, aquatic systems, etc will be developed as time goes on...baby steps.
Feels like we're moving forward...even in such a short time frame as this thread. :)
Stephen Cummings wrote:I want to plant 3 or 4 fruit trees between my house and a road. Unfortunately there is quite a slope from the road down to my yard. It tends to stay pretty damp. I want fruit trees but I dont want to waste my time for money. I have read that Asian pears can handle wet ground pretty well. I am in Northern WV. My main purpose of planting here is to create a little screen for privacy from the road. I could do willow or poplar, but wanted to see if I could do fruit to add to my small orchard. Thanks for any info
How good are you at plant identification?
If you are - pay attention to what's around you.
I'd say I'd try a few things that you might find around you already...
...elderberries growing in ditches (possible transplanting?)
As far as what will tolerate wet feet - just remember to plant things as high.
Consider planting willow and poplar behind for screen and height...
...and supplement below with fruit trees that will also benefit from their shade.
Sonja Draven wrote:I spent a good chunk of my Sunday turning a thick flannel sheet into "toilet cloth" aka pee rags. I have only been using them for number one and only during the day (when I'm home) so I don't accidentally flush them at night.
I just rinse them with water after and hang dry. Will wash with laundry. So far so good. And my toilet paper stash should last a good long while now.
I only read this to appease my internal *gasp*
However, I applaud this effort you are taking
Personally, I cannot envision getting down with the toilet cloth in any other way.
I just acquired 22 acres in Medina Co. Ohio, with the intention of growing a forest garden. Since I am new to this, and it takes years for trees to grow I'd love to meet some more experienced folks to learn from and bounce ideas off.
I see lots of links posted for where to find trees, which is great, but I'd love to hear some success stories from people around here too.
What's up Anthony - I saw your purple moosage and will reply with greater detail there.
I'm stoked to see someone *directly* local with land. We're definitely going to chat, and I'd like to invite you out and buy you a beer (when it's safe to do so of course)
Or...gather yourself a little crew and come on out to our farm and homestead and I can give you a tour and we can chat from a distance.
We've got a vibrant community here in Medina...and we're doing permaculture in our own unique way out here...
...unfortunately you won't see much of it here on permies - but I'll show you how and where to get involved with people who are *doing* it.
Cheers! Look forward to meeting you...we should see if we can rekindle Medina Permaculture. You into it?!