Today I noticed that one of the plants had turned dark in color. Upon close examination, it was completely covered with some sort of insect eggs on the undersides of the leaves. I don't know what they are but they look like whatever was chewing up my kale all last summer.
Of course there is another side to the story. We've worked with Geoff for 15 years and its a very sad outcome. We have nothing to hide but debating it on social media we don't think is appropriate and we're leaving it to our lawyers. Thank you.
$1,000,000 crowd funder anyone?
Frank Gapinski and myself with my beautiful daughter Latifa on location in Morocco for me it is all about helping save the world and the greater good we can do.
Unfortunately for Frank and now he wants me to pay him a $1,000,000 to release the footage from our filming in Jordan, Morocco, and England.
That is RIGHT one million Australian Dollars for footage that could help so many people in the world.
I have put all my money back into helping the world with permaculture, I have more debt now than ever before in my life, and I do not care I just want to help the world.
Be careful who you trust because some people just want to feather their own nests and live in luxury beachside houses and invest the money they make out of all your years of hard work while they invest in major unethical supermarkets.
We will survive, what does not kill you makes you stronger.
Frank has locked me out of www.geofflawton.com and all our videos there so go over to www.geofflawtononline.com where we have a new stronger system for helping the world and we are only working with ethical people.
Guys just to let you know this has all been going on for 6 months when I resigned from my business relationship with Frank and Jane Gapinski. I have tried to be as reasonable as possible and asked to finish the business and even asked for a third party liquidation so that both parties walk away with something clean and fair, but they simply ignored every request, so they can try and stalemate the process to try get there $1,000,000 dream pay out.
So it looks like Gapinski has his name on the domain, even though the registrant organization is GEOFF LAWTON PTY.LTD.
This actually happened already to permaculturenews.com! Geoff got the domain back somehow. But this time there seems to be a lot of content being held hostage, so it might be more complex.
Roberto pokachinni wrote:I couldn't connect with Geoff's talk at the homegrown food summit. It gets me to marjorie wildcraft and her spiel but not directly to Geoff. I couldn't seem to navigate my way to his video presentation.
I think Geoff sent a fixed link in a subsequent e-mail.
Replace my random example with a non-"top forum" such as education - kids...
My point wasn't about accessing the hugelkultur forum specifically, it was that secondary navigation is usually connected to the primary navigation. Here they are separated to the left and right side of screen and they look very different. Therefore navigation isn't that intuitive.
- It's hard on my eyes to read black text on brown back ground, specifically the buttons in the left column
- When I want to navigate to a specific forum, I click on a button (e.g. "growies") in the left column, then have to move my mouse all the way to the right side of the screen to go to e.g. the hugelkultur forum. That's quite a bit of friction in the navigation.
I wrote a long post and then it disappeared. Going to try to summarize.
I think when trying to define this type of income stream, we should ask ourselves "why do we want this kind of income stream?".
From my perspective, the main reason for a permie would be to have income coming in that can fund our permaculture projects/life.
So we need:
- flexibility with our work schedule
- ability to be home most of the time
- have that income enable us to not have a job (or only part time), especially when we need to spend time on permaculture (e.g. during the growing season)
- ability to quit and come back to it anytime
I think there are some things that are not exactly residual income that would qualify for our permie needs.
I would agree with Paul that raising rabbits wouldn't count, because you are commited to those rabbits every day. Therefore you wouldn't be able to go to a RMH workshop without finding someone to replace you. Maybe having someone raise rabbits on your land and giving you a share of profits counts as residual income. Think Joel Salatin stacking businesses.
However, there are possibilities that might stretch the definition of residual income, but still fit our needs:
1) Spend 500 hours building a website, then maintain and update by working 5 to 10 hours a week.
I think this would fit our permie needs, as you could build this over the winter, and then have a lot of free time to work on permaculture while you are only spending a few hours each week maintaining. It would probably be easy to take a month off if you wanted and still get some revenue. If the site is really working out, you could probably take a whole year off and still get some revenue, though most likely only a fraction of the original revenue.
Also, the 5-10 hours you are spending on it could be considered as building new residual income. By adding 10 articles a week to your website, you are technically creating 10 new flows of income.
2) Spend 1000 hours on building a highly valued skill, become a freelancer on your own schedule.
This is a bit stretching the definition of "almost residual income". But in a way, it fits our needs as permaculture enthusiasts.
For example, you could spend the next two winters studying web development and building your reputation. Thereafter, you sell your skills $100/hr. You could spend 3 months each winter freelancing and make all the money you need for the year. Or you could spend 8 hours one day each month working on small projects and make $800/month. In a way, this wouldn't be any different than spending 8 hours each month building new residual incomes. Lots of flexibility, no long term commitment, enough money to not need to get a real full time job.
You could contact a few webmasters of permaculture friendly websites . Give them a banner, an affiliate link. Have a landing page set up. Give the affiliate webmasters a share of the profit. Less risky that just paying for banner placement.
Set up a facebook retargeting pixel on permies.com and richsoil.com. Do your facebook ads again but targeting those people.
I'm assuming you cap the gradient of water channels? I remember PA Yeoman suggesting 1/200.
If so, how do you integrate those channels within the keyline geometry?
The issue I have here is that you might put in a channel with 1/200 gradient, but that the keyline geometry might have a gradient of 5%. I've seen this happen when you take for example a ridge guideline and go up the slope with equidistant lines.
So basically we're back to my original question but with channels instead of pemaculture swales. I guess this could also apply to an on contour driveway.
So how do you integrate on-contour or slightly off contour elements such as swales/channels/roads to a keyline geometry which has steeper guidelines/alleys etc?
I own the first two chapters of your upcoming book, great work! Are you still aiming to publish end of 2015? Also excited for the Polyfaces doc.
1) Official keyline/yeomans plow are not easy to come by in America, or are expensive to import. What are the alternatives if we want to do some keyline plowing?
I read somewhere that you can use a chisel plow, but that this means a different things depending on the continent. How can I know that I have the right tool?
What are the drawbacks of using an alternative to the yeoman plow? Can you still adjust the depth for example?
2) How would you integrate Permaculture swales to a keyline design? Assuming that the swale is on contour or slightly off contour (e.g. Mark Shepard does 1% grade swales IIRC). How do they integrate in the whole keyline geometry?
I'm in my 4th season of spending most of my time growing food on a small acreage with limited but increasing success. The rest I spend thinking about and studying permaculture.
I would like to have access to some land, preferably 25+ acres, ideally 50-100 acres+, to work on a project inspired by Mark Shepard, Darren Doherty, etc.
Think large scale permaculture, ponds, trees, silviculture, alleycropping.
BC land is expensive and those kinds of project are hard to carry without allies.
I would like to find someone/a couple who has similar visions/passions, a similar amount of money saved up, and some skills. If you are a builder or a mechanic, those are skills that would complement us.
Ideally I would spend 150k or so on raw land, build a modest home, and have enough for permaculture development and then maybe 50k left to live for a little bit.
So with an ally that would mean 300k-350k for raw land and 50-100k for restorative agriculture. Money goes fast but we could get a lot done with that kind of budget!
The coast would be nice, but it seems that the kootenays are more affordable. Not quite sure about other parts of BC.
I'm on an island about 40-50km straight north of you.
This is an interesting year to get started because it's so hot already and things are maybe a couple weeks ahead.
I was taught to leave row covers on brocolli/cauli for most of their life, but it's still a lesson for me to see that you lost a bunch due to the root maggot. Another way is putting old socks at the base of the stems.
7 acres is a lot to manage, how much are you growing your crops on? 1 or 2 acres seems plenty to handle for market gardening. You could use the rest for animals and to grow material for compost/mulch etc.
Looking forward to your report at the end of the season; whether you end up making a living or not this is still a great achievement!
Is it a place where you want to live for the next 20 years? That might affect your decision.
Maybe look into keyline design? A great resource for that is http://www.regrarians.org/ . I think keyline is a great approach for large farms and I think Darren Doherty has the best understanding of keyline out there.
Once you get grasp on the keyline approach, you could look at the topography of your land and see if there is good potential for building ponds etc. Check where your key points are and see if you can get a good ratio of water storage to cost of building the pond. Check that you have enough of a catchment area to fill up those ponds. Check that the ponds are well situated compared to where you would want to irrigate.
To sum up, if it was me, I would look at the opportunities for water on the property and those opportunities would derive from the contour map of the place.
You can use this website to get a first glimpse of your topogrpahy:
It is based on google earth data which is quite inaccurate but does give you some basic idea of what you are working with.
I'm in the discovery islands. Everything does come from the ferry.
I think it is a good thing that you are trying your designing skills at other people's land first.
I don't have much practical experience with swales and ponds, but I think your issue is more about getting the right dimensioning. Using annual rainfall, max rain event, catchment area, estimated % of runoff etc; as well as observation. Your swales and ponds should have a plan for overflows anyway.
Doherty's stuff is a great resource and I'm waiting for his regrarian handbook coming out at the end of the year.
charlie durrant wrote:Thanks for the reply Sam!
I suppose my real concern then is simply a matter of fine tuning the size of swales and ponds (or as mark Shepard makes them, holes in the ground), as well as how to properly manage overspills areas so that crops aren't washed out when rains return in a flood event.
I'm located on the sunshine coast and there are genuine food security concerns here, as everything comes in on the ferry. I love it here for so many reasons. I'm a long ways off achieving my dream land, but sense that it'll all fall into place when I'm ready for it.
My questions also stem to Abbotsford as I've been asked to do a scope design of a permaculture system for an 8 acre property there. They are very interested in permaculture, but don't know too much about practical application possibilities. The research continues and I'll share when the report is finished.
Thanks for sharing your key line resources I'll get to them now.
My intuition also tells me that approaches derived from PA Yeoman's work (Mark Shepard, Doherty...) would work well over here. I'm on the BC coast and seeing how dry this year is (we have an open fire ban already and it hasn't rained a drop for weeks), building ponds and swales and keyline would definitely help.
And keyline is also supposed to help with soil building.
Swales would soak in whatever rain we have in the winter and make it available for a longer period of time.
Where are you at in terms of looking for your dream land? I am also very inspired to do something on the scale of Mark Shepard. Land is quite expensive around here, so I'm possibly looking into joining forces with other permies.
As an immigrant from the old continent, I've come to realize that Americans tend to be more approachable, friendly, but sometimes you shouldn't rely on their word too strongly.
When someone tells me about something they plan to do, I often have a BS alert that rings in my head. Often it's because I know that shit happens, there's a lot of friction in life where people don't end up doing what they plan to do.
So when I am myself expressing a plan to someone else, I usually use words like "if things go well" or "I'll try to", or "maybe", to express that I am not 100% sure. If I don't see any hurdles, I might not use "maybe" and then I make sure that whatever plan I committed to is prioritized. Sometimes shit still happens.
Now saying "maybe" isn't very popular. If someone invites me to a party, saying "I'll try to come" is a bit of a party pooping response. So most people I know just get excited about the party and say they will come. And then they don't because they got tired or distracted.
If I see someone around me not using the word "maybe" in at least some cases, then I will not take their word as seriously.
I think, regarding the phone story, that unless you've seen signs that that person is someone who will keep their word, it's a bit of a stretch that they will be doing that picture thing every day. Just so much can happen.
Also, you were missing a contingency plan. What if they don't meet their side of the bargain (which seems likely). Then you're out hundreds of dollars. Doesn't seem like a good plan after all. Has that person been good with their money previously (i.e. paying back their debts)? Probably not, otherwise they wouldn't be needing you to pay for their phone...