The Forest Garden Greenhouse - Book Tour
Saturday, March 5, 2016
Lemon Grove Public Library
3001 School Lane, Lemon Grove, CA
Chelsea Green author Jerome Osentowski will talk about and introduce his new book, The Forest Garden Greenhouse: How to Design and Manage an Indoor Permaculture Oasis. Jerome, one of North America’s most accomplished permaculture designers, and director and founder of Central Rocky Mountain Permaculture Institute, presents a new approach to a very old horticultural subject. He shows how bringing the forest garden indoors is not only possible, but doable on unlikely terrain and in cold climates, using near-net-zero technology. Different from other greenhouse design and management, Osentowski advocates for an indoor agriculture using permaculture design concepts—integration, multi-functions, perennials, and polycultures—that take season extension into new and important territory.
Saturday, March 5, 2016 from 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM (PST) - Add to Calendar
Lemon Grove Public Library - 3001 School Lane Lemon Grove, CA 91945 - View Map
WE also recorded a podcast if you like to find out more about Jerome.
My friend Claudia already bought her ticket to go to Greece and help Syrian Refugees as much as she can. She is paying for her own way and all expenses she might incur during her trip and is already filling suitcases with donations of medicine and so forth. She also started a crowd funding campaign to be able to purchase more much needed supplies. Here is her campaign. Please help if you can and spread the word. https://www.youcaring.com/claudia-franzosi-455710
Thank you so much for posting this thread and for all the great answers! My friend is going to Greece to help with whatever and wherever she can the care of the large numbers of refugees. I was going to pose the toilet question to the group, but Permies are so on it! Here are already great suggestions and answers! She started a crowdfunding campaign which I will share the link here and in the money section.... https://www.youcaring.com/claudia-franzosi-455710
i feel your pain. This has happened to me more than once Now, I have a hugel close to the chickens and have a huge squashplant growing all over it. I am trying to grow some more permanent stuff inbetween the large leaves - so far, so good. Just have to remember to cut the leaves back if they produce too much shade....
I met Meiling Colorado on Tsu - a social media platform Paul is on as well, btw.
She posted this link to a crowdfunding campaign and I wanted to share it with you. If you can help, please do. This group of people is located in Spain where there is a 50% unemployment right now. I just had a long Skype call/Interview form podcast with Meiling and found out that all of the Youth found Permaculture on their own and did all the work to put the crowd funding campaign together. The teachers at Permamed are donating their time and letting the group work for the tuition fee. But their are hard cost involved such as food, housing and so forth they cannot donate. This is where the crowdfunding campaign comes in. The youth already worked 600 hours collectively and at least one of them has a 1.5 hour each way commute from his village to the site. Dedication! Please help to make this happen for them.
http://www.wethetrees.com/campaigns/a-pdc-for-9-committed-youths-and-parents-with-permamed" target="_new" rel="nofollow">webpage
P.S. If you want to join and support Paul on Tsu, sign up through this link ]www.tsu.co/paulwheaton
i have been thinking about the same topic in a different context. I have a bunch of water coming from the street I am utilizing and want to do it as safely as possible. I have the catchment ditch heavily mulched, innoculated with mushrooms and have been thinking of adding biochar to this as well - kind of create a filter for the water to go through while is sinks in. Also thought of sprinkling zeolite into the ditch. You might want to add those 2 things to your soil in that area.
evan l pierce wrote:I like this tsu a lot. I especially like how there is such a strong arts and permaculture presence. Here's hoping the tsunami creates a positive feedback loop that obsoletizes facebook. Overcoming social inertia.
i agree! and we can make the Permaculture presence even stronger. I encourage all to post lots of pictures of your projects.
Great that you guys joined! and for those of you who are running into problems, keep trying. They do have technical glitches sometimes - I think due that they are growing fast.
Here are ways to make this a real support for the empire: Obviously, the more you are on it, the more Paul will "earn" through your activity. You are allowed to post 24 posts of your own and share 8 posts in a 24 hours period. Unless you are really into social media, that is hard to do (it is for me). But whenever you get on, please share as much of Paul's posts as possible and of course like them as well. Also, if you have something cool to share, especially pictures, feel free to post them to Paul's timeline.
Also, if you are not on there to make money for yourself, as soon as you have $1 in the bank, you can transfer that money to another user. My hope is that you make that recipient the empire/Paul.
Invite your friends to join Tsu through your link and keep spreading the word.
Make friends with each other. Here is one way to keep track of the requests you send out to each other or to others you find on Tsu. Click on friend request and follow for each person - then when the person accepts you, click unfollow.
cool. Glad you are on! people love to see pictures - that is always good. You can search with # of interest. i.e. #permaculture or #art Or #garden - you get the picture and find people with similar interests. Then send friend requests and click follow at the same time. When people are connected with you as friend, unfollow them. Friends have full access to what you post, followers only see public posts. By initially clicking both, friend and follower, you can keep track of your requests. You get to share up to 8 posts in a 24 hour period. Sharing some of Paul's would be good. And use your invite link to invite other's over - the more the merrier. Thanks for joining. Hope you have fun. I am going to send you a friend request and tag you with some of the cool people I have connected with.
Tsu is a fairly new social media site and Paul has a presence there: https://www.tsu.co/paulwheaton. The neat thing about the site is that they share revenue with their users. The more you interact, the more $ (okay, pennies at first) end up in the account. And when you sign up through this link https://www.tsu.co/paulwheaton even more pennies go towards supporting the empire. The site is similar to the beginning stages of Facebook. You get to post one picture per post, you can comment and share. Right now, there are about 2 million users and if we all post about permaculture, we really can spread the word. Please join using this invite: https://www.tsu.co/paulwheaton. Post any questions you have in this thread and I will share with you how to use this site to all of our advantage. Oh, and feel free to share all and any of the posts on Tsu.
Do you think you could overdo with fresh herbs in the diet? My gut feeling is that it would be hard to consume enough - even in a green smoothie, there is only so much "green" one can pack in. My understanding is that dried herbs are much more concentrated and often more potent then fresh. Your thoughts?
D. Logan. This is a bit off topic in terms of herbal use, but I highly recommend for your wife to check out Hormone Yoga Therapy. Not well known in the US yet, but she can teach herself from a book by Dinah Rodrigues http://www.dinahrodrigues.com.br/yoga/en/contact.htm It says for menopause, but is really for all women with hormone imbalance. If you are close to San diego, I can teach you and a couple of other therapists are here as well...... It does work.
Jeff, thanks for the link to the plastic eating fungi! I did put some mushroom compost with the wood chips - forgot to mention it. At this point, the water is supposed to be gone within 3 days, hydrating the soil and hopefully, with time, eliminate the need to water much.
Bermuda is different from regular grass. It will grow up through 3 feet of compost on top. But if it is in loose soil/mulch/compost and is actively growing, it becomes easier and easier to pull it out. It does go inactive in the winter and the roots go very deep to overwinter and then, it is pretty impossible to get rid off.....
First off, there got to be a bunch of people around you into permaculture. Actually, the next Southern California Permaculture Convergence will be in Irvine - really close to you.
This guys are in San Diego County, but I am pretty sure they will come up your way - tell them I referred you http://ecologyartisans.com
Also, Bill Rowley is in Laguna Beach and has lots of connection all over Orange County. He might know somebody right in your neighborhood.
Permaculture Institute of Southern California
1027 Summit Way
Laguna Beach, Cal 92651
949-494-5843 office - home
Finally, this is what I have done with Bermuda grass: I did the cardboard and deep mulch. This will not get rid of Bermuda, but makes it so much easier to pull out. The areas I planted right away, I dug the grass out, root and all. Then planted as tight as possible to create living mulch and just weeded out what was coming up. As i said, going into new areas which were sheet mulched, it is easier to pull out, or plant through the mulch and when plants cover it, it gets to be less and less around. In the meantime, the roots dried make a tea highly priced in Chinese medicine- I forgot the name, but a friend of mine used to sell the roots - income stream. Yeah!!! Also, many animals like to snack on the Bermuda. For example, we just found out that our neighbor has 4 huge tortoises. they love Bermuda grass! We asked for permission to feed them and now, when I pull the grass, i feel very happy because we get to go and visit 'our turtles" and watch them run (not very fast) towards the fence to munch down on it.
Are the pants on this list considered water cleaning plants? I know them as drought tolerant, but didn't think I could employ them to clean the runoff. The pictures you see are rain from streets in a one block radius caught from an 1/2 inch rain event. The ditch has pretty much percolated the water into the soil within 3 days. So, when it rains, I have a lot of flow and anything might be under water for several days - then come summer, nothing for month at a time..... Currently, I have a chain link type fence where the water enters covered with some large leaves. That works pretty well to catch solids, like cigarette butts, candy wrappers, cups and so forth. I also have a bunch of Geraniums growing along the ditch and the leaves catch a bunch of gunk. That only helps for so long since I have to trim them to clean the trash out - they do grow fast. Then, at the dam site, I have a silt trap - a basin with some rocks behind to allow solids to settle. Then, the ditch is mulched and whatever manages to grow, I allow and encourage it. I am basically asking if, instead of the silt trap or in addition to, some cleaning plants would be advisable, or if it wouldn't make a difference since the water moves through pretty quickly if it rains more then 1/8 of an inch.
I am actually trying to grow something like a lawn this winter in what I call "the people area". I have small children over often and find that the mulch I have right now can be tough on their little feet. At the same time, I really don't want to spend water on a lawn. We had one rain so far, but am hoping for a winter with more regular rainfall and planning to throw out massive amounts of wildflower, clover, Plantain, dandelion seeds and see if anything will grow.....
I found this company, researching drought tolerant and step tolerant plants
http://www.stepables.com My only problem is that the plants I think will work in San Diego with very low water requirement cannot be shipped to CA
Thank you, Diane. I have been considering this. My concern is that I am in Southern California where it doesn't rain for many month at a time and don't want to spend water on water hungry plants.... So far, I did a silt trap and am mulcting my catchment ditch, but think I will try to plant some cleaning plants and see if they'll survive the summer. do you have some specific recommendations? I am catching water from a whole street block from a culvert I cut into and damed up.
Here is something I am doing. This is not addressing getting rid of Dandelion, but maybe your need to do so. I live in an Urban environment and have been turning my front yard into a jungle like food growing system (code for not very neat and row like or manicured:). But facing the street, I have a hedge of Bird of Paradise, large agaves. lions tail and some other pretty and/or unusual trees such as Buddha's hand. This I keep pretty neat looking. My point is that the eye of people walking by is drawn to the pretty front and it somehow makes it okay what they see behind. So far, I have gotten lots of positive feed back and got to meet many neighbors. As we go along, I am planning on growing more edibles along the front line and invite people to help themselves - that should create more friends for what I am doing.
Also, the hedge serves the double purpose of catching pollutants from the street, protecting my edibles from this unwanted input.
very interested in this too. Also, what would be good market crops. One of my challenges is to figure out irrigation around perennials mixed with annuals. I.e. seeds which need more frequent watering. I am in so. California where I need to irrigate for most everything if I want to get a crop.
If they don't like it as is, you could create a compost with some animal manure and carbon and then let them eat through that - yummy insects, fungi and all kinds of good stuff. I am sure they will love you for that.
All good suggestions. I have a moveable coop and wanted to do more of a padlock shift system. And am trying to implement the feeding with compost idea Geoff Lawton featured in one of his free videos. Geoff Lawton. I am also taking a course with Pat Foreman, the author of City Chicks and driving force behind the Gossamer Foundation http://www.chickensandyou.com/gossamer.html. Right now, I am trying to fence them out of areas I don't want them in and to train them (I heard that is possible - we shall see) to stay away from people spaces. John, feeding them away from where I want them is a good idea - still need to keep the dogs (at least one of them thinks she might be a chicken herself) from eating their food. Compost seems to work pretty good, but I still give them feed just to make sure they get enough.
Francis, I am afraid Paul will virtually shout at me if I clip any chicken wings. Shaking with fear. LOL.
Jimmy, you are right. The transformation from city dweller with spoiled pets to city farmer with working animals is a slow one. And I always check my shoes!!!
While I find then very picturesque, they do poop a lot and I rather keep them off the people area. Still need to figure out how. I have tried several fencing options to a) keep the chickens in a certain area and b) keep the dogs from eating the chicken food. So far, dogs and chickens working together as a team, they have found ways to thwart my plans. So far, I haven't been able to get myself to plonk down the money for an electric fence (~$200) with electrifying unit of sorts (~ $300-400) = a whole lot of money to keep 7 chickens where I want them to be…...