David Widman wrote:Have you tried enzyme therapy? you can go to askaboutvitamins.com and there is a product called Excellacor which is enzymes that will reduce your inflammation - take 3 on empty stomach first thing in the morning. I had an inflamed knee which I could hardly bend, started enzyme therapy and in 3 to 4 months could bend my knee without pain. Also cleans the blood. Blessings
The website is said to not be secure when I try to open it. I did anyway and then saw they say there can be a problem with PayPal but that it is a PayPal problem... which I never had anywhere, so they seem to have a security problem. Also, they just say "serrapeptase, protease and herbs", but no way to have the list of ingredients at all.
Robert Ray wrote:You often see tumeric in combination with pepper to improve its effects, if they both are problematic for you that really sucks.
Apparently, someone long ago used peperine in a study with turmeric. ...but it has never been successfully replicated. So, it appears that black pepper is ineffective at increasing bioavailability.
... MediHerb. They combine their turmeric with fenugreek fiber which has been proven in studies to increase the curcuminoids in the blood about 25 times that of any other turmeric supplement tested.
I had not seen about pepper being also problematic, and it increases the probability that oxalate is the problem... BLACK pepper is also high in oxalate! If mediherb is with the extract and not all the turmeric, then it is very likely to be ok, and I think fenugreek is also ok.
This of the pepper is always emphasised as ZE big news all the time we speak about turmeric!
Joylynn Hardesty wrote:I recently heard that stimulation of the vagus nerve, the ventral side can switch on the healing. Stimulation of the dorsal side can trigger the cell danger response.
Any herbals that can help with this as well?
I had to come back to it... The Autonomic Nervous system or ANS is a little bit my specialty...
What triggers the CDR is not the vagus but an aggressor, an insult on the body. And the first reaction will be from the sympathetic nervous system, SNS.
The ANS does not work the same in danger or in security. So no branch of the ANS is good or bad. We need them to work adequately with the environment and the defense we eventually need to do. But 1st and foremost, the Autonomic Nervous System is the chief of our orchestra and the basis of our pyramid. It allows us to live. So the sympathetic system, SNS, is action, and the vagus is the brake, it is parasympathetic, PNS. We have a special branch called ventral vagal or VV, responsible for social engagement, and this is one of our best potential for healing and co-regulating (never bash sheep any more now!). And the dorsal branch is mainly responsible for digestion and the immune system.
All parts of our ANS work when we are secure or when we are in danger, but differently.
Action is SNS, so it helps to just live and move, then sport, and the most intense is when you need to save your life. So of course it has been associated with the fight and flight response. So we can say that the CDR is actually coming from the stimulation of the SNS. So why the dorsal vagus there? Because if the SNS stays high too long, the electric wiring becomes too hot and the body does not like it, so it sends the hand brake over our accelerator pedal! This is what is called the freeze response. What is frozen? The sympathetic activation. So it is very energy demanding and cannot be maintained too long without being tiring.
Now what can we do? The first is to do whatever we can to remove the insult or insults. They cumulate, so for example if a person is ill and says to be bothered by light or sounds or whatever, believing and doing the necessary will be fundamental. By the way kindness will also also help through the social engagement system, and being alone is not the best to recover. How to give an efficient support is natural for some persons, but mistakes are very frequent because we have not learned. Being calm and grounded and loving and present is just what is needed. Giving support is to lend our ANS to a person whose system is very busy, and it does not go through our mental mind, so the best is to not be in the way and trust the unconscious ANS does its job.
So before adding plants, sometimes we have to remove them!
We should have defenses against plant toxins, but what if we lack them? Veronique Mead from chronic illness studies used the carnivore diet for some time, and Phil Escott who cured his psoriasis / rheumatoid arthritis is still on a zero carb diet because there is almost no plant he does not react to. As long as he stays on a carnivore diet, he feels good and healthy (he used to be vegetarian and vegan for some time). Veronique is trained in Somatic Experiencing and was an MD. Phil used Hannah Somatics. It is all about the ANS!
We absolutely can react to plants, and we have to find out if this is the case, and thus we can remove some burden on the body, digestion etc. Then go for bacterias, virus, parasites, fungi... as they are all micro-agressors that can be forgotten when we think about the importance of past trauma. Yes, but let's not forget present trauma!
Then, stress affects digestion and the immune system, as both depends on the PNS, the dorsal branch of the vagus. It means that stomach acid might be diminished, so bitters will be useful. The vagus will even be stimulated by the taste itself in the mouth! Lemon juice and cider vinegar also help when we need more acidity.
Another plant is active on the vagus, ginger. This is why it is used in case of nausea, be it car sickness or pregnancy.
Then plants are also active by their smell, and the vagus is accessible in the nose, thus the use of aromatic vapors during meditation!
Quite a few plants are active to calm the nervous system, like the famous chamomilla. Also lavender and citrus like bergamote in tea, basically the smell of the leaves, or zest, or the flower like the famous orange flower called Neroli.
Many herbs smelling like lemon are also used, like melissa, lemon balm, or lippia citriodora, cymbopogon, lemon grass that contains geraniol.
So rose and all smell like a rose, like palmarosa or rose geranium are also calming.
Tarragon and tropical basilic are equivalent, and the basilicum is very much used in India. Also ylang ylang...
Without being so exotic, one of the best calming pant is marjoram!
Eric Hanson wrote:I am not exactly certain that you would want to deliberately stimulate the vagus nerve. Doing so would cause you to become violently ill. The vagus nerve is what connects your brain stem to your stomach & gut, largely for the purposes of finding toxins one ingested before they can be absorbed. Stimulation tends to cause nausea and vomiting.
Some people have good results but others don't, or worse as you noted. Yes overstimulation can make vomit or even pass out. I mentionned that ginger is taken in case of nausea or vomiting: ginger slows the activity of the vagus.
But we have to remember that the main point is the feeling of security or danger, which can persist after danger is actually gone (we fear it can come back).
If stimulating the PNS/vagus manage to lower the SNS side, then it is ok. If the SNS stays high, then stimulating the vagus will obviously create a freeze or dissociative response!
... we all know it, when we feel space out and less present, or even we feel we are in a movie or seeing things from the outside. It is also a natural anesthesia that can buy us time right after an accident!
I hope I have managed to do what most article fail to do: there is no good and bad part in the ANS, and the sympathetic is not "on" only when there is stress, and we do not need to "stimulate" the vagus, except if we mean that we want to help happen the cycle of SNS and PNS, which is very well represented by the wheel of yin and yang. Also, even if we can influence it, the best is to not be in the way and to trust that our body is reacting right. We can also help so much by knowing how this all works, because we understand how to give support from our heart!
F Agricola wrote:
Although my favourite herb is coriander, in our warm/hot climate it tends to bold to seed REALLY quickly. Even in winter the window of opportunity is small, but that isn't a major issue as the seed then becomes a spice and the root is ALWAYS used anyway.
So, my 'perennial' favourite is mint - can be used in so many instances: food, drinks, medicinal, etc.
(Parsley is equal in those qualities, but mints refreshing flavour and aroma just wins over.)
Try pápalo or Mexican coriander! It needs more heat than regular coriander. It is not at all the same plant actually.
Pearl, I have bought turmeric extract and milk thistle extract, because they are low in oxalate. (and I was all in favor of whole foods use!)
The kind of reaction to oxalate makes it impossible to guess which foods are culprits. Your own first guesses, and what Raven had noticed, are already prooves of a very high level of attention to body reactions!
Actually, I was using those high oxalate foods instinctively but the other way round, to slow dumping. But during the months it happened and I did not know about oxalate. I could not understand my cravings! It was a relief to learn about oxalate, and I am in shock of what I discovered after 1 month of intensive readings. It is a shame we don't know about oxalate and who can or cannot eat those foods, and how to eat them safely!
Take oregano, it is high in oxalate, but as all oils lack oxalate, it is safe to use its essential oil!
About tea, green tea has less and if you make black tea, you need to infuse it as little as possible. Then if you add milk, the calcium will bind to oxalic acid and will prevent part of the absobtion. And also, it depend on our guts, and if we have or not the bacterias that degrade oxalate, as they are sensitive to antibiotics.
Well YES. But it is as if we had 2 senses of taste.
the normal taste will tell us that something is not what we are used to (cultural differences and habits since young, as for fermentation) or that is can be dangerous (rotten...)
the other kind of sense of taste will work only with natural foods as a stand alone, so this is why you can put cookies out of its scope!
I'd better give examples.
- I have noticed since long that I like sulfur tastes, so garlic, onion, cauliflower, radish and even nasturtiums.
It just happens that I will eat some of it, just to think "Oh gosh, why do I want to eat this, I don't like it, t is too strong!"
There was a time I forgot about eating those, but I became fond of "coffee + coconut oil + egg" just to find out one day that all free are rich in sulfur!
- Who likes bitters? We don't but we do! It really does not taste good but I like the cleaning effect on the mouth and I just like to imagine taking bitter more than I can imagine eating a piece of pie!
So I found out that a taste I crave is a taste I spontaneously IMAGINE to take.
But we have never practised the use of our senses at this "second level", so even if I have experienced enough to notice how it works, I am a baby compared to what I can imagine native people could do... They had life long experiences at the same level of our university levels!
For me, I have noticed that this second level of senses use comes on line when I live a challenging situation. I am sure it comes from the vagus nerve and the use of all the autonomic nervous system, which is a form of intelligence and not just instincts and reflexes. When you realize that people could make edible some non edible raw stuffs, or make a poison that kill animals but not the eater, and made to make monkeys not hold to high branches but fall on the ground... Well I don't believe in extraterrestral informations but I believe in the possibility to develop our senses at a very superior level.
Andrea Locke wrote:I have never heard of onion tea, so am interested to know how that is made. Is it with chopped raw onion (including, as you say, the peel)? Do you add honey?
I do make soups that include onions when we have a cold, but I think that probably is different from what you mean by onion tea. Also, I usually fry or caramelize the onions before adding them to the soup. Does cooking the onion like that have a big effect on its value as a food medicine for colds? I have a feeling it may drive off some of the sulphur but I am not sure.
I think it should be called onion broth! Yes I learned it as cooked onion. As I need sulfur, I looked for the importance of having garlic or onion raw, and it seems to be no, though I was surprised. So maybe the sulfur just has a different chemical form. Indeed the smell of cooking is not so strong so it does not seem to evaporate.
About the recipe of garlic egg. As I find it is important to eat yolks only raw and whites only cooked, I separate the 2. I cook the white with the garlic and either do something else or add the yolks after. For taste, you should try to add tomato paste into the egg white! I shake this in a jar and don't even put fat to cook it. And I add apple vinegar on it afterward.
Egg also has sulfur... and think about another traditional cough remedy... radish! Sulfur too! Some people make a syrup from black radish slices and sugar. (nowadays we have ways to extract the juice without sugar I think. up to you about your taste and opinion!)
Pearl Sutton wrote:Edit: what is called arthritis is actually a symptom that has multiple causes. One of the common causes is high calcium levels making painful crystals, wonder if turmeric is high in calcium? If so, it might amplify it, IF that's the type of arthritis involved... Again, bodies are complex.
No, turmeric is high in oxalate, not in calcium, and the calcium crystals are calcium oxalate, and it is NOT caused by high calcium at all, up to the point that calcium is given to people suffering from those cristals. Actually, spinach is high in calcium and this calcium has been found to be totally un-available. It is not even enough to buffer the effect of the high oxalic acid found in spinach!
Many traditional ways of cooking show that recipes for high oxalate foods included dairy. Black tea with milk is such an example, and making chaï instead of infusion in water is another example. Oxalate cristals have nevertheless been found in old momies, showing that what we can think "healthy" not always is. It takes time to react to oxalate, and when the damage is done, this is complicated and long to remove it, as it is stored everywhere and mostly in bones.
And again as the word "detox" was in your comment Pearl, in the case of oxalate, this is not a detox, as it does not involve liver detox phases.
And even for real detox, involving a transformation by liver, it is possible to have less, by preparing the excretion channels well and by going slow. When we detox under the threashold of what liver can process, there should not be reactions. Some doctors now start to write articles on line about warning to not conclude that having a Herx reaction or a detox reaction is necessary. And it is so easy to confuse with a problematic reaction and being re-intoxicated by what we have moved... I write all this because I saw that nobody reacted to my post, I guess because what I say is rather new, while your comment had many apples, showing that it matches what is the current paradigm. I am also not a good writter and not english, and tend to pack too much in as few sentences as possible, but this does not mean that my content is as bad as the style!
So please you all, I don't ask to be believed but at least that you enquire more about oxalate and also about detoxing, so that a defense reaction of the body is not mistaken for a detox. I have read enough in health groups about people who were detoxing with a lot of plants in juices or smoothies and big salads, only to end up ill (not only about oxalate). I know also people who went from vegan to carnivore, and the first one I knew and who gave his testimonial about healing with carnivore was on this forum.
I still hope humans can stay what I believe they are, omnivore, though having to choose according to health issues, and needing sometimes to suppress or to reintroduce foods. This is why I even created a group on FB that is called "We are omnivores, so why can't we". Not about oxalate only but having to remove or introduce foods. If what you read about oxalate talks only about kidney stones go to another source because stones are the little top of the iceberg (yet 10% of the population will deal with them). If you need, you can PM me, no problem you are welcome! There are also contradictory oxalate lists, about content in oxalate, and often using serving sizes which I find useless for practical use, so I am currently making an easy one that will be in order from little to a lot. The biggest and good list is to be found in the FB group "Try Low Oxalate". Unfortunately they mostly don't really answer inovative questions and don't approve many posts except what is repetitive that they can answer. Sally Norton and Julie Matthews have a good informative website.
Due to what you react to and your health issues, I am pretty sure this is about oxalate! Which mean you can have gut and joints recovery... It is very very little known but gaining recognition. Even a lab told me doctors here look for it more. But it is not easy to detect, as the dumping in urine is periodic, so people rely on symptoms.
Have you ever had something like UTIs or candida, skin rash, red itchy eyes though not smoking, moments of your life when you had to make an effort to hold pee and run to the toilet, or have to pee at night or before the bladder is full and a heavy bladder? Even nearly feeling hot. Others have vulvodynia, slow lymph, fatigue. The symptoms vary and move and change place or appearance.
Detection is complicated by the fact that we start to react only when to capacity to store is overwhelmed, and then, removing the culprit can often make dumping worse, so the paradox is to feel better if eating a high oxalate food! Actually it will only mean that it slows the dumping. This is why we can feel better with some high oxalate foods... as you mention. Also, you can have some benefit from something in the plant + having the oxalate drawback. Mainly, oxalate creates long term consequences, and this is why they are overlooked. I have also noticed through testimonials, that people react to some oxalate-high foods more than to others!
When we have some in urine, it becomes cloudy. So peeing in a bucket helps to see it. Then if you just empty the bucket and clear it with water, it will deposit and become very visible.
I am wondering about what to do in what order. so what to do BEFORE introducing herbals + chelator...
Sharol Tilgner wrote:Another choices is that person could start with Oregano essential oil as an old fashioned inhalation - (1 drop at a time in hot water) as it has some biofilm busting abilities too, but is not always enough and you need one of the sulfur containing chelators often as well as Oregano together. Read about creating an herbal inhalation here: https://youarethehealer.org/herbal-medicine/making-herbal-products/herbal-steam-inhalation/
Because it is a bit of a cycle... Does using oregano causes more toxins to be released, and thus is it necessary to thus support elimination organs first and take binders?
Or on the reverse, it is necessary to kill molds FIRST because they go on producing toxins?
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I have also used EO on dogs without any other issue than them running away if they had a chance to smell the eucalyptus oil I was going to pour in their mouth! (but those with the EO were cured before the ones with the vet treatment, so I put all dogs with EO). l have also used onion juice, both externally on a bad skin infection, staph if I remember, and internally, like a glass a day, before I knew it was toxic! Well, the dog was cured.
Too much tea-tree oil too often has also led some people to become allergic and not be able to use it any more!
When I use it as an antifungic, I always alternate with another. I have no idea about rhythm so I do it randomly. I odn't think I have ever used tea-tree during more than a week.
Lisa Suvarna wrote:in the summer, when I come back from the garden. I get this intensely itchy skin, don't know what causes it- maybe chiggers(can't see any bugs), but usually around skin folds.
Near skin folds most often signals microscopical bugs. Probably acarus.
I think he meant where in the body, due to the examples
Chris Kott wrote:
Cris Fellows wrote:Lobelia seems to know where to go and what to do.
we chose Lobelia to be part of each for it's particular property of being an anti-spasmodic and bronchial relaxant plus it bosses the other herbs in the blend around and tells them where to go. :)
Mullein seems to have intelligence in setting bones, particularly those that are difficult to set...unlike Comfrey that sets it where it lies.
By "know where to go," do you mean that it "knows" where it's needed in the body,
Intelligence is the domain of the living, whether plant, animal, fungus, or whatever. It's logical to assume that, as for instance cut heliotrophic flowers will still reorient towards a light source, that cut plant matter could retain its life until the cells themselves die enough to render it vegetative (pun intended). But once a thing is no longer alive, in my opinion, it's inert from the perspective of having its own agency.
-CK
Chris, your reasons are like mine, because I said that our body is the intellligent one that uses the plants.
I also said a chemical adequacy was needed, of course because the plant is dead.
But I did not go as far as calling dead and inert a "dead" plant, because of the chemistry. It is still active, and this might be what native people meant about "spirit" and working with plants, even after boiling them!
I am not very enthusiast at calling this "plant intelligence", but body intelligence, in using what we offer it, and chemical agency. Could it be called an "intelligent relationship"?
I call plant intelligence their way to grow and relate to the soil where they live, and to relate with their own species or with other species, as this is a feature of any living being form of intelligence.
Then surely there is some better adequacy between us and some animals and some plants too, better than with others. But if you say "intelligent plants" it bypasses the fact that it is a relationship between us and the body, and that our body is also intelligent (I mean somatically and not only our mind)
I find the best plant for itchy skin is aloe vera.
If you want to increase mosture, you can first rub in some coconut oil (I think olive oil will work too, but I would not use any other veg oil full of omega 6), and then you add aloe. It will create a sort of "milk" that will be sucked by the skin better than any of the 2 alone! It seems to form an emulsion. I discovered this just by chance...
It is incredible on dry skin, even after lime use, I had my hands repaired overnight (I put gloves to keep it all on the skin)
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Then the cause?
Just on the calves might mean blood glucose issue, or varicose veins and lymphatic issues. Behind this, there might be a vitamin Bs issue, like B1 (related to blood sugars), and B1 can be low because of B2, and also B6 can be involved, that is better to take as p5p. Bs are quite related among them. I would ask for testing them.
If he feels that it is related to nerves, like feeling the sciatica nerve a bit more, or if also some muscle weakness, or leg cramps, then look at potassium issues. I did have it and my father too. I had just drier skin on my legs and he was feeling some itching, maybe because he also has a worse blood circulation than mine (genetic issue needing anti vitamine K for him)
Itching of the skin that turn into rashes after, can be related to oxalate dumping. The precise location just seem to make it more unlikely... My bf has some itchy skin from oxalate, and with no rash because it is very thin, but he says that it feels like having some fine sand on the skin.
Thanks so much Sharol! I am amazed by your knowledge! And as an Aspie and good nerd, lol I don't say that often!
Yes I am aware about oxalate and iron, and it is the same with lead and mercury and they can be stored in bones, where 80% of the oxalate is stored by the body... I started dumping thanks to a permie thread! So I did the carnivore diet, which helped tremendously with my energy levels. Now I add back high sulfur plants but have to stay low in carbs and fibers (I had an OAT but they did not measure oxalate, but I had Lactate and Succinate, a good fat metabilism, no candida but SIBO, and both liver phases I and II not working properly). I will add legumes for binding the bile.
I will really apply all this you said, because I value it so much (and know how it feels when people don't value what I say!)
I even already have NAC and TUDCA at home, but I want to organize what I take in good order... No oxalate specialist tells WHAT HAPPENS WITH METALS WHEN OXALATE COMES OUT! I believe this is the most important thing to search now about oxalate. (So many complaints in private among members of the low oxalate group because challenging posts are never published) I am aware my health changed within 2 years after 7 MERCURY REMOVALS. My brain is highly functionning and I don't want to change this!
And yes I was keeping the idea of oregano when ready to attack molds... It is too irritating to just use it when not the right time. I also have a neti pot but I am not sure this is good on a daily basis.
I was using turmeric and milk thistle by the way, but I dump less oxalate by stopping, so I will turn to the extracts, as they are both very high in oxalate. Oils are sure super low in oxalate, but I could not get the answer about what sort of extraction removed oxalate safely. It would be worth knowing at least for alcoholic extracts....
Anything as a cold for me ended going down to the bronchia, so I took the habit of always adding inhalation with a few drops of eucalyptus.
Also sulfur helps, so garlic, and even a tea with onion - all with the peel - is traditional. I take raw garlic with some coconut oil because it also has sulfur!
Also rich in sulfur: eat raw cauliflower and radish.
In the south we have nasturtium in winter, and they are also very rich in sulfur.
Most people avoid dairies when they have a cold. In case of sorethroat, it seems that blue cheese "Roquefort" helps... and its mold is a penicillium! My trial seems to confirm, but if you try, tell me!
Sharol Tilgner wrote:The diagnostic criteria for AFS include findings of chronic sinusitis on computed tomography (CT) of the sinuses (such as mucosal thickening, opacification, polyps, and high-intensity signaling from the high protein content in the mucus) or low signaling of fungal concretions in sinus cavities on MRI. On sinus culture, fungi can be isolated with associated allergic mucin, which is mucus loaded with degranulated eosinophils. Allergy skin testing can verify that these patients have an immunoglobulin E (IgE)-mediated reaction to molds.
In case this is confusing: An allergic reaction to mold is an IgE reaction and not what usually happens to people who have a mold illness reaction. Rather, what can happen with folks who have mold reactions is that their body is they are overwhelmed with the toxins from a water-damaged building and the immune system reacts in an unhelpful manner. They now tend to be more likely to get a yeast infection or even fungal infection that shows up as chronic rhinitis or sinusitis.
This seems to match...
I have to translate in order to see what to ask and what exists in Spain. As I pay for it directly, I have to see what is most economical! So if I understand, I have to look for CT and MRI, or have an analysis of mucus from the sinus. + skin testing.
And yes I had seen that I did not match mold illness but they don't talk about anything else!
And yes, past moldy house and always had a tendency to chronic sinusitis...
A friend is living in a moldy house, the landlord is remiss in fixing a water problem in the basement. The basement is the worst but she fears the whole place is affected to some degree.
What prophylactic protocol do you recommend for her to help her fight her environment and stay healthy. She is about 6 months from being ale to move out.
I would do anything to move out it will cost less than to stay... My childhood house had a problem in the basement, it is repaired when the new owner found out, but I can still smell it from the street...
I found out that aspergillus make oxalate. Candida also goes away better when removing oxalate stores by reducing intake from food, spices and whole herbs. Fungi can use the oxalate for hiding! Oxalate also impairs sulfation because oxalate and sulfate have the same transporter.
I have read all I could when I discovered I was dumping oxalate, and it is not a rare issue even when people don't have kidney stones. Then I discovered the link to sulfur, and noticed low oxalate foods are the ones high in sulfur, and the ones I most crave!
I said bingo! when you mentionned sinus, as mine are not clear. My father also has similar issues but more than me, due to age, and having spent more time than me in the moldy house... He has lost his sense of SMELL and has polyps. Also oxalate issues and muscle wasting (I guess lack of sulfur)
I actually had a bronchitis and nothing helped during 1 month, until I started to notice a moldy smell (I am a high detector!): it was in the pillow my friend had brought!!! I threw it out and started to recover. I am even back from the fatigue but still I want better!
My practitionner uses hair analysis, where my iron increased and I have low copper. My ferritin tends to high while RBC and iron tends to low. Recovering from mold bronchitis fatigue included methylB12 and P5P for me. I take Bs Vit. which is logical with oxalate issues. If I have attrated your attention upon oxalate, I will be happy because I have found so many people who have the issue without knowing and were so thankful. I transmit because I cannot thank enough those who made me know about it!
I am about to do the DNA GI testing, with biomes in Germany and I hope their test is good!
What's about Tarragon ? This was the one I had advised to my mother who had vagal issues and it allowed her to come out of some symptoms spasmophilia type. And she would use lavender in bed, just smelling it. Marjoram seem to also have some influence on the nervous system.
I know the work of Ariel Schwartz and also you can find Veronique Mead's writing about the cell danger response, CDR. The water of the cell seem to act at the cell level as the ANS at body level.
Vagus nerve "stimulation" is becoming better known, but it is a little part of the story, as the goal is to resync both SNS and PNS, and the vagus is considered a PNS nerve, parasympathetic. You can stimulate by singing or even just huming, and find many breathing recipes with longer exhales, but the main information they often forget is to tell you to listen to the reaction of the body and follow what the body feels after doing exercices! The main part is not to direct the exercices but to let your body express itself and follow the yin and yang alternance of SNS and PNS. Also, what we experience in the present is often a mix with past memories and it can complicate things.
Understanding can help manage, having grounding and relaxing activities too, and then it is better to work with a somatic practitionner to go further, because the relationship is important in the work.
Are all in the list of adaptogen plants useful in all cases of ANS activity?
Does the type of nervous state have nothing to do with the choice of an adaptogen?
(I had read about some people having bad results with ashwaganda because of their low thyroid...)
I understand the elimination, but is it possible to have an infection of molds still living in the body? Do we need to use some herbals, as some plants are good fungicides, to kill the mold inside?
Do you agree with this in general:
- Eosinophils can mean mold infection
- Stored iron is linked to chronic infection, including molds
- Molds can produce oxalate
I prefer E.Oils because they are oxalate free compared to the plant, and there is oregano, laurel, tea-tree, geranium... but I don't know what would be the best nor how to use them internally, as we have no idea where would be the fungi... It is not as easy as treating athlete foot!
I have also used water until l thought "Essential oils are oils!" So oils just mix well together and the irritation potential of the E.O. is dampenned. For whatever use for aereal sphere, the oil will also make the EO stick better in the throat l think.
For sorethroats, I often use tea-tree or niaouli. Also close to oregano, thyme, thujanol type. Adding some mint will cool the throat too.
Also think about an easy way: gargle and clean your throat well after eating! Either with a thyme infusion or just warm water, eventually with salt in it. You can add a teaspoon of oxygenated water and it cleans well. Salt and oxygen and heat!
I see you are in Texas... He is in Maine!
He cannot grow things ginger, turmeric, gotu kola!
You can and I can and I have them...
Actually, we can! They can be grown as annuals. I've grown Gotu Kola in my square-foot garden beds. Foolishly also tried lemongrass which took over so badly I was relieved for the winter kill. I've bought organic fresh ginger and turmeric roots that were huge, cheap, and plentiful from a local CSA. So if you can give them a passive greenhouse you'll get even more production.
Ok... we always try to push our climate limits hehe... I am not fond of having more work but here is how to have more production and easier: use big buckets full of compost for ginger and turmeric as they are always hungry and you will get much better rhyzoms! They love to have a lot of half composted leaves to make it all lighter. Then just empty the buckets after the leaf dry and keep some rhyzoms for next spring.
I used to be fond of turmeric, and l am going to use only extracts now...
Why do you think indians use herbs in Chai? Because of milk. Milk has calcium that binds to plants anti-nutrients. Turmeric is loaded with oxalate. Black tea also has a lot, and again is traditionally taken with milk. As we tend to have increased our consumtion of numerous oxalate rich foods, l see it as a good idea to use less herbs and more essential oils, or to use medicine when needed and not so much as prevention. Also turmeric is good to the liver because of stimulation and hormesis effect which means it is not really meant for a regular use by everybody. If you cannot use milk or dairy WITH anti-nutrient rich foods, you can take clacium citrate (unless you have anemia due to low ceruloplasmine because citrate lowers ceruloplasmine).
There are 2 types of reactions to stress.
Could you please say which adaptogenes are for people still in sympathetic activation, and those that are for people who have arrived at the parasympathetic vagus freeze? That would be like for people who are too active/cannot rest and a tendency to anxiety Vs the ones who have reached burn out or depression.
I know very well the ANS but I am curious about the correspondance with plants use and how to take it into account.
What's about Helichrysum Italicum for sclerosis? I just don't know until what depth it can have an effect.
About massage technique, if you can find a practitionner in Arvigo Technique, they teach you this Mayan self-massage technique and then you can practise at home between sessions. It is useful for all the belly and organs going down and testical issues for men.
Turmeric is very high in oxalate. I also had to stop it!
Cinnamon is also high in oxalate, and black pepper too... Also chocolate, black tea, rhubarb, chards, beet, spinach, quinoa, buckweat, sweet potatoes, nuts in general, and many beans and grains.
I have written a bit on oxalate if you use the search (I can answer more where the topic is addressed specifically), but I am usually not believed when l say it is an important issue. Please believe me that it is overlooked and not rare and it is far from causing only kidney stones! All sort of bone, joints, muscle pains, UTIs, itchy eyes, skin rashes, salivar and gum pain with white plaque... And it damages mitochondrias.
Please be very careful in general with the notion of detox crisis, most are not! And if they are, it means too fast detox or pathways that were not enough prepared. About oxalate, it is not a detox but simple elimination. The problem is VERY difficult to understand when you don't know its specificity: you feel the effect of oxalate either when you really have reached a "too much" or when you remove them too fast. In that case you cannot believe the food is bad, because you get better when you reintroduce it! (it just reduces its elimination...)
Raven, if you have both guts and bones inflamation, please do the oxalate dumping, read Sally K. Norton, contact me if you want, I have been dumping for nearly 2 years. Eliminating must be slow, don't ditch oxalate foods cold turkey, as it can be strong. Increase your sulfur foods and take Epsom salt baths. I have reached the lowest intake of oxalate now, but still have to eliminate from bones, where 80% is stored... You can stop your inflamatory issues actually!
It is strong and powerful, so has to be kept for cases when other oils don't work.
Not under 15 and pregnant women.
Avoid topical use and only diluted in a neutral oil for small surfaces.
It is often put in capsule because it is so strong in the mouth. Dilute it in a vegetable neutral oil like olive or coconut.
It is the widest spectrum antibiotic oil, and also works on virus, fungi like candida and parasites.
Just so that you can inform about goji... though they can be useful for some people as medicine, it is better to let know people that, as a food, they are solanaceae, and some people are sensitive and don't know goji is one!
And the goji berry is part of the high oxalate foods.
I was thinking about the "normal herbs" for humans but actually, do you want something stronger that can have a narcotic effect? How do you make them take by the animal if they don't want to?
It is often easy to look at a wounded animal because they are in shock so they are in a freeze state, which is the best natural analgesic.
I have also made jar from chicken, and it was surprising: everybody though it was ghee! This is when you give a seriously non vegetarian diet to hens.... The fat was yellow. My sheep fat is white.
I kept some just to test, and it was good even after 1 year. At 1y1/2 it started to smell rancid.
I have rendered a lot of sheep fat this year. I have done a few mistakes and I welcome confirming and how to do it better!
I have no oven so I did it in my biggest saucepan with a lid, and after cutting the pieces as small as possible. I could not do it all at once so I was filtering the liquid fat with a thin tea meash. I rendered until I was left with crunchy bits that were good to eat.
- After the color of the fat, I think it was a bit too much burned. It turned out quite white when solid. Maybe it is all saturated enough to not be too bad? Is it important to use the lowest possible heat?
- I wonder if all kinds of fats can me mixed together and rendered at the same time?
I have a batch from a female and a male, and gosh the smell and taste! How do you avoid this with male fat?
- I made the mistake to leave some little bits in the last jar I filled, and this one went moldy...
