That's mighty good stuff there Sue. Think like a bug, a deer, a rat, squirrel, bird.
There are these things called "hedge" species, like Serviceberries. What would you do with those? Plant a few, spread out, along the edge of a driveway with other hedge species in between them? Or plant a few and let them do their hedge thing, cutting back as the new shoots pop out?
I have heard of several wood stove makers putting warnings in their manuals about osage orange. Hard as a rock, yes. Burns hot, yes. I would take a look in that manual for your wood stove.
As far as PSP, I would say Black Locust if you can get your hands on it. One just fell in our front yard. Gotsa buncha them licorice ferns in it. They taste good and all, but I have a question. Is that a sign of a dying tree?
Any arborists on this site? I would love to learn more about tree analysis and assessment.
So I read about the economic viability of permaculture on another thread, and was inspired to put this out there. Please don't kick me off the site
I am in this wilderness skills school that is incorporating the permaculture certification for the first time. I feel that there are two directions, or areas of focus, that are pulling me: re-wilding or permaculture.
I really want to make that OR an AND. Say you are raising meat rabbits (permaculture) but you practice your snares and deadfalls (rewilding) on them. Or you have a garden (permaculture) and a deer comes and grazes, then you shoot it with your bow and arrow that you made from natural material (re-wilding). Are these examples justified in the blending of these two themes?
Lets say something happens that puts the U.S. into a state of turmoil and there are bands of hungry people roaming around. If you have a self sustaining permaculture farm, wouldn't your land be their first target?
I like this square foot thing. Questions though. How deep do you dig each hole? Do you cover it with sod after, or something else?
What about combining the square foot shitting with the tree bog?
In Willow's defense, it is much more than a basket tree. It is used as the drill and/or hearth for starting friction fires. It is a great fish smoking wood. It is used to make snowshoes, spoons, small frames, knitting needles, fishing poles, rope (nets, lashings, etc.). Bark used to make mats, bags, blankets and more. Useful?
That is good info on cedar though. And I have heard that squatting is the best way to shit and prevent large intestinal backup. I read that in "The Last American Man".
Did he still have a healthy supply of earthworms the following year?
Wal Mart put up a store on the floodplains of the Upper Iowa river, just north of Decorah (my friends home town) and last year guess what happened. Everyone went to Wal Mart to buy products that would get rid of all the damn water in their houses. Thanks Wal Mart and Decorah city council.
Paul, you said let water in in one place. Say you are on some land with no structures yet, just bought. Would you set up gravity fed water ways and this berm ditch thing before building anything?
I think it would be cool to use that one inlet and branch off from it, maybe having waterways feeding storing tanks or ponds on the property.
That is true. We have alders on the property too. But I am thinking of putting them on the northmost end of the forest. Maybe letting them mulch the forest themselves. Then I don't have to gather leaves for mulch.
I tried the cambium of alder once. It was cool, eating wild and all, and I felt like a bear, but it was a little woody... you are right about it not being choice.
Would it be a violation of permaculture principles to have species in a FOOD forest that aren't food?
That helps. So would it be wise to disperse the... rhubarb for example... across the forest rather than having it clumped into one area? How about hedge species, I am thinking of serviceberries along the driveway. Would it be better to let them run, trimming to my liking? Or have other species in between them?
Isn't it edible in small quantities? I heard it is a significant source of vitamin B12 (for all you veggies).
In Edible Forest Gardens' plant matrix it lists the width 3'-5', height 3'-5'. If I have a 14 foot diameter apple tree dripline, how many comfrey plants should I put under the canopy? How fast will it spread?
Would it be wise to plant a few red alders in a food forest? I know the cambium is edible, and they fix nitrogen, and provide mulch with their leaves.
I have limited space and want to put something there that will benefit the forest the most. The two trees I were thinking of were red alder and black locust. These would be part of an apple-based food forest.
Okay. I was hoping you meant that. I will make sure not to put any daffodils in a boquet. I think it would be a good experiment to ooze out some daffodil sap into a small section of soil and see if it has any effect on pH.
I think daffodils would be worth it in a food forest, especially if they attract insects. Does anyone know any drawbacks to having daffodils in a food forest?
Sue, did the bogs you saw list a willow species that was used? I got an idea... plant different willow species around your toilet. See which ones take better. Then have a pipe going down into the ground near the crap, but deeper. Then smell the end of the pipe after a month and see how the willows are doing. Give me more ideas on how to monitor the willow's crap-eating-efficiency.