What is illegal could be expressed in another wya, because I understand that it transmits ANGER, like about laws.
Those laws come from moments of epidemias, and I would not want some people to contaminate after death! But it should certainly be possible to enlarge the options we have now!
Again, the impossibility to enlarge to everybody the possibility to be free about our body after death ...just signals that we are too many on earth to be able not only to LIVE but also to DIE the same way as animals !!!
De Young wrote:Hmmm, not sure system is the right word here, I don' t think that word even comes close to the innate awareness that exists-- system is more lile a term I can use to wrap my head around it --- just sayin...
The nervous system is a system in the same sense as the digestive system.
It means in both cases that it is physiological, organic, and that it is composed of several parts or several organs. It is the same with the immune system, the cardio respiratory system, the urinary system...
Speak about the lymphatic system... and everybody knows about it and its importance. Then mention the nervous system... especially the autonomic nervous system... and people start to talk about either the mind, psychological issues or spirituality! Either "I have no mental problem" or "I do not want to talk about science, it is about feeling it and energy".
The closest is indeed spirituality, as it was the way to understand it and live it and share it before there was anything else to explain it. In permaculture, we take action but we are also happy to know what RedHawk can teach us about soil science! And we can also talk about a living system without focussing on its issues! We need it and use it when it is healthy!
When we talk about the invisible and to be related, yes there are things out of our physical incarnation that we can contact, I do not deny it, but I say that the "antenna" for it in our body is the autonomic nervous system, ANS for short.
Actually the vagus nerve, a parasympathetic one and the largest of the 12 cranial nerves, has been compared to the kundalini energy.
I have seen the theme elsewhere, in between the lines too, so better to have a dedicated place for it.
We are the species with the highest consciousness about pain and death, and I think it plagues us. I even see going vegan as a way to deal with sensibility to this topic. So when I see that it even causes problem for some persons to give animal remnants to hens, well they are not herbivores but real extended omnivores, even more than us!
My way out was to reconnect with reality while looking at animals, and also to feel part of a life circle where we all feed each other one day or another. Our way to burry really show me how separated we are from life and its cycles! I can understand burning in epidemics, though they also show me the problem of overpopulation.
Also, when I trained in somatic methods, I learned that when near death, we "dissociate" and that it creates a natural anesthesia and even removes fear. Then it becomes less cruel to see a bird killing a mouse, when you know that the biggest part of the emotional pain is projection, and that what we Project is not what we think!
That would be nice to have this thread for Spain or even all Europe laws! If you like the idea, maybe you can edit the title? This theme is all about laws actually.
1st time I read about this, and I have to look for it in Europe!
I find it crazy to use Wood for a box or for burning. Or petrol, any energy.
I would also suggest that if there is a danger in letting nature do its job as for wild animals, it means we are too many people on earth per square mile…
Where I live, near the sea, I would dream even if illegal that people would weight me down for fish food and report I suicided!
Animals have given me their flesh, and I want to give mine back to earth!
It is the 1st time I share about this and I have never seen anything written about it…
I have worked with animals and love them and I am a behaviourist.
I am shocked at all that people throw away because it has been damaged by their dog! Sofa and other furniture, even doors…
Shoes…
Plastic toys and other plastic items…
Not to mention all that you find in pet shops, that is made from plastic, and that pets would not need if in their right environment (as humans should too...). Why don't people bring home some sticks from the outside and give real bones? There are even plastic bones!
Haven't you seen any video with laughing people at their dog full of feather or nowadays foam?
Actually they laugh after screaming, and they try to get back their feeling of love after it has been challenged! After digesting the event, they just say it is part of the cost, but the real cost is supported by the earth!
Pets destroy until they have to resolve to boredom, and it means they do not live the right life. Puppies destroy just because they play too. They might be the right piece of nature that people need in their lifes, and it is fair, but it signals how much we have gone backwards, while saying that we go forward and cannot go backward! Technology is not life, and about life and happiness, it becomes a hard job to go forward... Mammals are all so social that they cannot live alone without some suffering. We also need to move and need to be motivated. Dogs have a free bowl of food they can swallow quickly and without having to do anything for it. Life has planned all of us to celebrate our efforts with a result. It is already life changing for a dog to be trained properly with a clicker and having to find strategies to get food. Is permaculture about mimicking nature? Then this is how carnivores eat: they have pleasure establishing strategies to get food. As they do not always succeed, there is aleatory reward, and occasional failure and errors increase the power of success and the motivation.
Back to waste: think about it and warn about it people who "want a dog".
Now my waste mostly comes from some food packaging I can still not avoid. And I do not keep meat and fish packaging for long! I have also been wondering how I can freeze my own meat without plastic… Glass is not feasible because too much too heavy and meat sticks so you have to leave it in the jar. Paper? It sucks the water…
I reuse bottles I find as mini plant warmers, and protection against lizards.
Jan White wrote:Different glues come off with different methods, as well. After you've done the hot water thing and removed the paper part of the label, check if the remaining glue will just wash off with water and soap. A lot of them will. Some come off best with acetone, some with Goo Gone, whatever that consists of. My husband gets pretty obsessive about getting labels off jars and has different products he uses. I've started just ignoring the labels and glue. They'll either come off with washing eventually or not and that's good enough for me.
Yep, how do you know what glue they used?
1st water and see.
Scratching is very much spoiling sponges so I do not like this. We would need a curved knife!
Acetone or oils work. I agree very much with the idea of using rancid oil, as I hate to spoil food for non alimentary uses...
Why would you waste pricey essential oils for this???
As I have them, I Will try to brush a lemon skin on some glue left-overs though…
Ignore labels? Well you risk MOLDS! I am shocked to see how many people have marmelade with old moldy stickers!
I also agree that snails eat paper etc... They devore letters if I do not pick them from my mailbox!
Then I second the idea of TIME. I stock glass outside, as this is the only thing I have that can handle sun and rain. (no freeze here though....).
Look for PHB in English!
What is biodgredable still contaminate with nanoparticles... I asked what this plastic was made from, and they could not answer though...
Uno de los nuevos plásticos biodegradables libera nanopartículas nocivas para los ecosistemas acuáticos
polihidroxibutirato (PHB) que libera 'nanoplásticos' --fragmentos 400 veces más finos que un cabello humano-- durante su proceso de degradación que producen efectos tóxicos sobre organismos de los ecosistemas acuáticos.
I have no seen that much difference… Being French, I have experience with arab butchers and hallal meat. The difference, haha, is that you can go to the butcher late or on sunday, and you Will get meat except pork! Ask for Lamb!
working difference:
Less blood on the board. And when you butcher the animal, it is much less a mess when you remove heart and lungs.
Killing:
Indeed, the blood come out because the animal is alive. The stunning is done on the part of the head above, where the center of pain is, suppressing it. Nowadays you can get a sort of gun that will send an iron piece that will give a cerebral death, but then you have to cut the throat. The heart sends the blood out.
Religious reasons:
They were always decided for practical reasons.
The reason to go through religion is that it creates a real strong "no-no" and protects people from not taking something seriously.
A real chain-saw… just a chain, with 2 handles. I cannot use a chainsaw, and I had been amazed at the job that this chain can do, so I bought another one. They really cut better tan a hand saw. Let's say this is a handS saw! You can also cut a Branch where you have no room for a saw. And as you work towards you, pulling helps the strength. Also, it cuts both ways, so much faster.
I just posted about the Canarian tool called wataca, and it makes me think that it exists in 2 or 3 sizes!
I had bought a small one for myself, and even men would tend to borrow it instead of using theirs!
As said before by others, I don't know why so many tools are oversized, but I have noticed that it is the same for finding some working clothes, as if only tall men were working… I think in our standardized world, that they try to make what Will be fine for the majority. Everybody can put a small body into a big t-shirt, and the reverse is not true! But it ends up to be unpractical.
Psychologically, I think that it touches the theme of humiliation Vs proud. You have to be strong and tough in the world of physical work! Maybe that is also even why they make those pink tools… so that the message to men is that "Yeah, we know you are not going to buy those toys, so we make them in a color that Will not attract you."
So when I talked about men workers borrowing MY wataca… the 1st case was a construction worker, a strong guy but who was not "sweet" with his helper. He would give a heavy wataca to the guys working for him! And it was done as a TEST! Meanwhile, he would himself use mine as much as he could...
lol I forgot to say that some tourists go away with the tool part in their luggage! Then you just buy the handle.
I also wanted to tell the difference between Wood or iron handle. A lot of guatacas are sold already welded. They are a bit more heavy and they transmit more vibration, so there must be a reason… Actually you can see on the pics that the 1st is a new one, as the angles are still Sharp. The metal one is old and rounded by use in a stoney ground.
- We have a lot of stones, and one of the uses of the guataca is to remove stones, so they are very much used as a lever, which causes a lot of pressure, up to the point of breaking the welding after a few years.
- You can change the form of the iron handle easier, and the straight handle is not the best. When you bend it, you have a more opened angle, so you can have a better attack angle without bending yourself more. Entering the soil at 90º allows you a better effect with respect to the strength you use, and avoid some rebounds.
- It is the usual tool to mix cement in a Wheel-barrow!
So this means that it stays wet during all the time you work. Not good for the Wood handle.
The iron handle being a tube, it takes some care to wash it after use, and I am still angry at people leaving my tools heavier, so I bought the one for the garden, with a wooden handle, so that they leave it for my garden use!
Here is a use in construction, when you want to fill a basket to throw the sand in the concreete maker….
1st photo is compared to the size of the shovel, and you see one angle of use
Then you see the 2nd angle of use and pulling in the basket. the technique is to have is on your feet.
This one is absolutely tipical from the Canary islands!
I have to shorten a bit the Wood handle… They are often all in iron though, but this one is lighter, for the garden. You can use the point part or the flat part, and even start with the Sharp point and then turn it when it entered the soil. I like it very much, you can do a lot of things with it, and pull more soil tan with the usual triangular one.
Well, just seeing that mulch and animal food come from the same plants! Can it even be a better fertilizer if part of the mulch has gone through ruminant digestive track?
(copied from the mulch thread, as it fits better here!)
Here for summer and dry paces, they sell "pasto sudan".
Sorghum × drummondii (Sudangrass)
They are annuals, but they were talking about "new varieties" that were supposedly better, but i was wondering what sort of change it was or if it was an hybrid that I Will not be able to keep seed from… It is orginally an hybrid, but that has been stabilized. I hope it is still the case of the seeds we can buy! I needs to be sowed at 2 cms deep, nearly an inch.
It is calle tree lucerne, because it serves as alfalfa.
I don't want to derail the thread either... Talking about alfalfa, when we need to buy some... either the dry grass or seeds, I have read that it comes round-up ready, thus GMO! How can we sure to not get one of these!?! Now I have even a doubt about the one I bought for my sheep before I can produce more myself...
Well, just seeing that mulch and animal food come from the same plants! Can it even be a better fertilizer if part of the mulch has gone through ruminant digestive track?
I don't like the Paint on a small wooden clean handle… until I find a Paint I would trust!
And as I never Paint, I have no left-over any way!
i just don't want to use toxic stuff, and I don't want to have a red palm when I work in the garden!
I have tried a piece or colored tape, but it ends up going away. Meanwhile, it worked and it was what I had at hand. (still a bit more of plastic stuff…)
I personally agree about the difficulty to carry a ladder, and also it needs to be changed on the same tree! It takes time to find the right place for it to be secure too.
I agree about the use of animals!
- you do not mind anymore about bugs, and you even want more bugs for animals!
- you don't mind about some fruits falling down, what you gonna do after a storm...
We are the only animals who want to harvest 100% for us! Look at all the so called "spoilage" animals do.... it is what allows:
- some other animals to eat too
- soil bugs to be happy too
- more compost (look at what is left after human harvest, compared to cattle "shitting on the food"!)
And I am very happy about ideas to not buy tools and recycle manmade garbage!
I guess the PVC one Will be very efficient ...to muscle your shoulders!
A big choice is about strength combined with the shape of the tree.
1) System that you hold very vertical:
- it Will tire you less
- you have to get it down and up again between the next set of branches.
2) System with a bag underneath and the handle Will be held in a more oblique way.
- More pressure on your arms.
- More agile between the branches.
I had a DIY one:
- A tin can.
- Make a V cut
- Attach a broom handle with iron wire.
Done!
It is similar to the bottle style but
- with zero plastic.
- you can modify the inclination of the handle.
- stronger cut than with a bottle. (avocados, lemons...)
connor burke wrote:Rather than preserving Foods it might be better to eat seasonally by eating fruit and such during the summer and eating only meat and fat during winter by doing that you could mimic our ancestors natural diet when we came out of the forest into the savannas. When we did this we evolved to be able to eat a keto diet or carnivore diet along with fasting and endurance running for hunting. In More Southern climates it will likely be better to eat fruit and such during winter when everything is green and eat Meats during summer when everything is dry.by eating a seasonal diet you be able to eat as much as you like during the green times and then lose weight during the dry times or cold times. Not to mention the healing effects of the ketogenic diet once you get into ketosis.
I agree and not at the same time, because what do you do when you have too much of something in season? Isn't it better to keep it anyway?
I agree that I preserve much less since I live in the subtropics…
And yes the paradox is that we should eat carbs during heat, and fat during cold, and that it is reversed where summer is dry and gives almost no fresh carbs!
Keto is not healing for everybody and some cannot handle it long term, so the interest is indeed to be keto no more than part of the year. Except for people who do not handle carbs, but those people already know how that have to manage… We can become resistant to more than insulin… Sooo… For those who handle carbs, getting a break resets your cortisol receptors, which seems to be useful.
julian Gerona wrote:If you dont have a vacuum pump you can also boil the jars with its lid tight or simply heat it anywhere. The pressure will ease on the one way valve and vacuum itself upon cooling down
Surprising… I doubt it is enough to create a real full vacuum!
And think that you Will not be able to keep raw food as you are with the vacuum pump!
Put it vertical and the mouth on a stone, with any nut inside. Nice tool to open nuts without sending bits and pieces around! And you will not smash the edible part!
I have just bought a slingshot, in the hope I can use it for rats, but i will have to become very good at it...
More over I do not want to use man made iron balls, only stones.
I believe traps are best though. For rabbits with worms, well, with a good long cooking... Here we also eat pigeons, always in boiled soups.
I just use them a lot as glasses or cups. Their lid makes them fly-proof!
As I need to filter my citric juices, I have a normal lemon juicer, but one in glass and not plastic. Then I put the filter on the jar and pour the lemon juice. Then close and keep for drinking from the jar, with or without added water.
I use jars for breaking each egg searately in case one is not good. then I can separate the yolk if needed. And with the lid I can save the white for future use.
I use a tall jar for my cotton filter for coffee, because it is too long to keep during filtering, and it does not fit in a cup!
I put each daily milk from the ewe in a different jar, until I get the separation of whey naturally on the counter top.
I have countless jars full of seeds....
When I finish a jar of coconut oil, I "clean" the jar with my morning coffee… Nice taste and less soap for cleaning!
Tim Siemens wrote:To hold the veggies down below the brine for a ferment, you can use a 1/4 pint jar in the neck of a larger widemouth jar. It just fits. Press it down and then use the wide mouth to hold the small jar down.
I am not sure I understand… do you mean that you need the small jar to be closed totally inside the big jar? And then that you screw the lid of the bigger jar?
About sprouting, I ownder why to not just use an elastic and a piece of mosquito net, and whatever allows you to give it the right position instead of buying specific devices that are meant ONLY for holding your jars. Sometimes re-use is minimalist, and sometimes it looks as if we need to buy more!
Sally Munoz wrote:My friend and I have been calling them Helianthus tubers and it's starting to stick around here. ;)
In France my father called them Hélianthe Ey-lee-ant
but he did not know that the tuber was edible! We had them for the flowers and as a border along the Street.
My father complained that he could not contain them and had to keep removing them from the veggie garden! And they all ended up in the compost after some drying!
In Tahitian, pineapple is called painapo… so you can tell that this was not grown there by their ancesters! Pronounce it like pineapple, suppressing the l sound and thus ending with a -o sound!
I am French.
Crosnes is pronounced the same as the disease Crohn!
lol we have a lot of Ss that we do not pronounce… many consonants at the end of words are not pronounced at all. In substantives, the letter at the end is often a remnant that Will just give you an idea of the verb that matches.
Plants called "artichokes something" are all from the same familly and have a similar taste.
You can say the same for spinach… New Zealand spinach is tetragone.
The south African tree called "Natal plum" for the form and color similarity, goes by the wonderful latin name of carissa, why not use it?
Malabar spinach has such an easy latin name, so why not call it basella? You then have the choice between the alba and rubra, and I chose the second, meaning red, because I am attracted by violet pigments in food. It means for me that this is my body's choice for the kind of anti-oxydant she needs!
Casie Becker wrote:It won't help with you not liking artichokes, but I cooked the flower stalk as well as the actual artichoke and it came out just as tender as the artichoke heart, but there was a lot more of it. Seems like by eating only the flower head our artichoke industry is ignoring 75% or more of the good eating on that plant.
YES!
Same for burdock by the way…. same familly, and the stem is perfectly edible.
And Roberto, about the edible leaves… well the stem of the leave is the edible part, and the french eat them very commonly, up to the point that there are special varieties that have been developped for their leaves, and the flowers are still edible but small….
About taste, it is all about the sauce béchamel, because of some bitterness.
They are eaten in autumn and you can get better tender leaves by letting them in the dark with soft cardboard or thick paper.
David Huang wrote:No one has yet mentioned two of best perennial vegetables I grow so far, so I suppose I should. They are daylillies and common milkweed. I like both of these because they provide a steady supply of food over a long period of time.
With the daylillies I'll start harvesting some of the early shoots, which are among the first green things to poke out of the ground around here in the spring. Then later it can literally be a daily harvest of either the large almost ready to open buds, or the daily flowers (I usually pick them in the evening as the sun is about to go down so I've gotten to enjoy them as flowers before having them as food). I could also pick wilted flowers, that had been opened the day before, but find these tend to be great hang out spots for various bugs, so I leave it to them. I understand the tubers are also edible, but haven't yet tried any. I've been trying to get mine to spread and propogate more thus I haven't dug any up. I've got the common, wild orange type along with several other varieties I bought and planted. While I didn't do this on purpose it turns out that I made excellent selections for other types in that they don't all flower at the same time. Instead I have a succession of various types flowering spread out nicely giving me a constant supply for months. (Before anyone asks, I don't know the names of the types I bought anymore.)
With the common milkweed one does need to cook them, but despite what many wild edible plant books say you don't need any sort of complex double or triple boiling techniques to remove the "bitter" aspects. If your milkweed is bitter, spit it out. Common milkweed is NOT bitter! Anyway, in the spring I can eat the shoots. Later in the season I harvest the flower bud clusters, then the flowers, and finally the immature pods. Again, this is a perennial plant that provides an abundance of food over a long period of time. I let mine grow it's colonies in and around the garden beds where I'll plant other things around among them. They certainly attract pollinators as well.
Can you please provide good pics or better even: the latin name?
For me, milkweed is euphorbia peplus and I do not consider it as an edible, as it Will be eaten by both rabbits and cuys… and Will kill them with very Little!
Many plants can have the same common name, and this important to know what we eat when we talk about edibles...
Tyler Ludens wrote:I have Malabar Spinach but I think it is a tropical plant, isn't it? Probably won't make it through the winter without special care.
Even in my zone11 they don't pass Winter... Considere them as annuals!
