I think it would make a great guild plant to use with apple trees. It wouldn't compete for light with them. Real hardy, I could plant it near the driveway. Nitrogen fixer too. Shelters wildlife. Edible fruit.
I wonder if there is any utilitarian use for sea berry? Anyone got info?
Public schools, like y'all said, suck. But I think there are some great things about public schools, at least the public schools I went to in California. One was the diversity of kids. I met people from Finland, Switzerland, Africa, and Italy. Exchange students and what not. Not to mention the hispanic kids. I learned about different cultures by making friends.
Also, when I came home from school and told my parents about all the stuff my rich friends had, it opened up opportunities for my mom and dad to teach lessons. When I asked my mom for 100 dollar shoes after seeing a buddy wearing them, she told me that it doesn't matter what shoes I wore, as long as they functioned and I was comfortable.
The other was a class I took called "Futures." THis guy, Mr. Anello, had us read Alas Babylon, Brave New World, Cat's Cradle, Slaughterhouse 5, Farenheit 451, amongst others. He really got us thinking about what life might be like in the future.
That is pretty impressive. I suppose concrete's not so bad, if it's artistic like that. Have the posts for the underground house in sunken concrete, but shape a table or a stand of concrete above the ground and have them connect.
What if you were all the way underground but just dug out more earth around the house? More light getting in the house, a space for a garden, space for a greenhouse.
I agree. Gonzalez is awesome. Kids have "The Beginner's mind". I think that is what he called it. I am learning survival skills now. I know what you mean by the illusion. We know how to do something, so we think we can do it. "If I had to, I could do it."
This stuff takes practice. I try to start a fire by friction at least twice a week. In the Pacific Northwest, it is wet out. Very wet. It gets pretty technical starting fires out here. Tough, but it can be done.
That is just fire! Making stone tools, building shelter. Knowing wild plants and their uses is huge. Eating insects a few times a week helps too.
Well, nobody that lives up here now has a diesel-run vehicle. The parking spots are not too close to the food forest zone.
I will talk up the wire mesh method with my roommates and landlord. It is hard when renting. It is a "community" we live in here. We are students of permaculture, with projects for this land. They want me to design a food forest, but the landlord wants "pretty" hedge-like plants along the driveway.
I feel like MY project and MY design are tainted a bit. Any ideas?
Everything that everyone else said is true. I will add a few more.
Baneberry is deadly poisonous as well as False Hellebore. Hellebore can be medicinal when treated. Also, almost all of the buttercups around here (Ranunculus spp) are poisonous. The Nightshade thing... I've seen a plant in the forest behind our house called European Bittersweet (Solanum dulcamara). This is a relative to deadly nightshade. Beautiful flowers and berries. From what I have read, one berry won't kill you (as with most poisonous plants) but many probably will.
Another plant to avoid is Snowberry. Little white snowball fruits are poisonous, though one or two are said to settle the stomach.
There are more. I went through each page of Plants of the Pacific Northwest Coast, by Jim Pojar and Andy Mackinnon, and wrote down nearly every species (minus grasses). Time consuming, but now I have an organized list of wild plants and their uses/drawbacks.
I made a basket, my first basket, a few weeks ago. It is subtle, but works really well. I used the inner bark of western red cedar, and twined it with sweetgrass (coastal rush species). There is one strip of cherry bark in it for some pizazz. Willows supposedly are awesome too.
That is an excellent idea with the garbage cans. After I posted yesterday, my brand new roommate walked in. I learned that his job is installing gutters! He is working for a woman getting new gutters, and she has a huge pile of the old ones. My fingers are crossed.
Has anyone heard of using limestone or marble in the bottom of a tank to purify water? That is different than distillation, right? Would that be more beneficial than distillation?
Wow. That does sound simple. I think its worth a try.
I didn't think to say it on my last post, but the garden is right next to the driveway. I was thinking that I could plant something that would also buffer the emissions from vehicles to the edibles in the garden bed. Stacking functions ya know. 1) emissions buffer 2) deer deterrant/feed 3) utility plant or coppice? 4) Dynamic accumulator 5) N2 fixer?
However, this is great information, Sue. I appreciate it.
I am creating a guild for a food forest right next to our driveway. Fencing is probably not an option. I was wondering if there were any thick perennials that either deter or feed deer and successfully keep them out of gardens?
It probably needs to be tall and thick, maybe thorny?
Our cook has been experimenting. We would rather not have a ton of cane sugar in our breakfast bakes. He used apple sauce today and was disappointed when the bread finished cooking. It was more of a flan than bread. It tasted fan-dam-tastic, but for textures sake, are there any other dry sweeteners to use? Anything anyone has grown themselves?
I've read that natives in the PNW used the resin of white birch as a teeth cleaning gum. It contains zylitol, a disinfectant found in many toothpastes nowadays. It is also used widely in Finland as a natural teeth cleaner.
It might be good to have some white birch on your property for dental hygeine. But that's not all... the resin reportedly has some terpenes in it, which may give you a buzz.
Stack those functions: get wasted and brush your teeth all at the same time!
So there are these packets available nowadays in grocery stores. They are called emergen-C. Basically sugar with a ton of vitamin c in it. They sell for 8.99 per box!
I've been studying up on medicinal herbs and such. I learned that a handful of douglas fir needles has the equivalent in vitamin C to 7 navel oranges! We have a few doug firs outside the house. I have been stripping the needles, putting them in water fresh of the boiler, and letting them sit for a few hours (even overnight). The result is great tasting, vitamin C packed water.
Pine trees like white pine and shore pine also have loads of vitamin C.
I just moved to Western Washington from California a few months ago, and haven't gotten a cold yet (knock on fir-wood)
I have not read collapse. It sounds interesting. A book I have read on this topic is Thomas Berry's The Dream of the Earth. It's verbose, but full of excellent insights and observations. He talks about business, and the "heart and soul" of a particular company. He goes on to say that the sole purpose of a business is to manipulate someone into buying their product. It is very interesting, especially in the food industry. I work for a grocery store and witness this phenomenon often.
I thought about that too. The big trees near the trailer. How big does Pecan get to be? The Locusts can get big. THere is another question. How do you regulate how large a tree grows? Will simple pruning do the trick?
We don't get a lot of wind here, and locust is pretty sturdy. I doubt it would fall, but it might not be worth chancing it.
Does anyone have a dripline on the side of their house (or trailer)? I rent, and the landlord is not going to pay for gutters. Neither am I. Has anyone caught rainwater dripping off the length of their roof line?
An even better question, does anyone have their own water collection, storage, and purification system set up?
It seems to me that this is an important issue in creating a PERMAculture site. Mollison's chapter on water is amazing.