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Where to find Tim Peters Perennial rye?

 
                              
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I have been interested in growing perennial grains but cannot find a good source for seeds. Can anybody help me out? It seems like the link to peters seeds is dead...
 
Rachell Koenig
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I too am looking for perennial rye grain.. and I think the rye grass is different? If anyone knows where i can find some, or swap me, that would be great.
 
Kota Dubois
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http://www.adaptiveseeds.com/content/rye-millwright-perennial

This is the only place I've been able to track it down to. I ordered mine last week by mail (since I'm not in the USA), and I'd appreciate it if you would wait a bit before ordering to make sure that it won't be sold out before my order arrives
 
Matt Smith
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Holy hell! I didn't know about this type of thing going on outside the Land Institute.

Definitely worth some experimentation for such a price, methinks.
 
Matt Smith
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Update: purchased some! I will be doing my best to establish it on my budding homestead this year. Incredibly excited.

Found some documentation online from an ex-pat American who has tried growing this stuff in the Netherlands.

http://bifurcatedcarrots.eu/2011/07/tim-peters-perennial-rye/
 
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I have read that the perennial rye will actually live longer on poor soil than it will on rich soil.

An interesting read on Tim Peter's work:
http://www.seedambassadors.org/Mainpages/timesquiettriumph.htm
 
Matt Smith
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Does anybody know what other plants, if any might be useful to interplant in a perennial rye patch?
 
Kota Dubois
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"Does anybody know what other plants, if any might be useful to interplant in a perennial rye patch?"



This perennial rye grows 8 or 9 feet tall at harvest. Perhaps a low growing nitrogen fixer like clover would have enough light part of the year to use. I was just planning on using smallish monoculture blocks of it here and there. Grasses do well as monocultures.
 
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Matt Smith wrote:Does anybody know what other plants, if any might be useful to interplant in a perennial rye patch?

hairy vetch worked for me, it will draw up grass stalks abit...
 
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Well, today I received an envelope in the mail from Adaptive Seeds. I ripped it open to examine my rye and discovered it contained my money back with a pleasant note saying thanks for the order but sorry we're out of stock. Oh well like the old saying goes, No good deed will go unpunished. Sigh.
 
Matt Smith
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Kota Dubois wrote:Well, today I received an envelope in the mail from Adaptive Seeds. I ripped it open to examine my rye and discovered it contained my money back with a pleasant note saying thanks for the order but sorry we're out of stock. Oh well like the old saying goes, No good deed will go unpunished. Sigh.


I think they sold out a long time ago, and their system just wasn't sophisticated enough to update when it happened.

I talked to them about it and they said they would try to offer more next year to keep up with demand.
 
Maine Aaron
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I have a small amount of unthreshed "mountaineer" perennial rye that i could trade to whoever wants it. I got the original seed stock from PSRseeds a few years ago.
 
Cate Weaver
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Check out The Land Institute: http://www.landinstitute.org/

They're focused on many perennial crops, including rye.
 
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