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George Lee


Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 528
Location: Athens, GA/Sunset, SC
Anyone have some rhizomes ? Let's get the hop post started up...

Share your favorite variety,and if you have root cuttings for sale, thanks.

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brett watson


Joined: Apr 18, 2011
Posts: 100
Location: Northern California Zone 8b
I have Cascades growing at my house that I use for brewing beer.
Next winter I should have rhizomes available.
I love growing hops. It shades the south facing side of my house, where the kids room is.

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George Lee


Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 528
Location: Athens, GA/Sunset, SC
rathersurf wrote:
I have Cascades growing at my house that I use for brewing beer.
Next winter I should have rhizomes available.
I love growing hops. It shades the south facing side of my house, where the kids room is.

'ell yeah bro...Post some photos if you got those..I'd probably use them for a windbreak.

brett watson


Joined: Apr 18, 2011
Posts: 100
Location: Northern California Zone 8b
This year I am running them up jute twine (so I can just cut 'em down and compost 'em without worrying about the wire) and doing it so it gets better coverage across the side of the house.


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George Lee


Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 528
Location: Athens, GA/Sunset, SC
Good lookin' cascades bro! Do ya thing...and save some rhizomes for me. I'm lookin' for a good outlet to buy from...
Peace -
brett watson


Joined: Apr 18, 2011
Posts: 100
Location: Northern California Zone 8b
Yeah, I'll post on here next winter when I split them up.
                    


Joined: Apr 21, 2011
Posts: 18
I was talking to one of my husband's coworkers the other day, and he mentioned visiting a bar in eastern Idaho that had a large jar of pickled hops for individual sale as bar snacks.  Of course, he had to buy one.  It was awful.  But it's intriguing, isn't it?
George Lee


Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 528
Location: Athens, GA/Sunset, SC
IdahoFolk wrote:
I was talking to one of my husband's coworkers the other day, and he mentioned visiting a bar in eastern Idaho that had a large jar of pickled hops for individual sale as bar snacks.  Of course, he had to buy one.  It was awful.  But it's intriguing, isn't it?
Hops are in the same family as cannabis sativa. Hops are Cannabaceae-Humulus-lupulus to be specific. Some people pickle them, some people even smoke the buds. It's said to have sedative properties courtesy lupulin.. You can buy the granulated powder seperated from the strobiles for a sedative tea.... http://www.azarius.net/smartshop/herbs/herb_extracts/lupulin/

Viva Hops..

brett watson


Joined: Apr 18, 2011
Posts: 100
Location: Northern California Zone 8b
One of the main ingredients of "sleep pillows" or "dream pillows" is hops.
Jody Tracy


Joined: Jul 17, 2011
Posts: 19
I live in MN, would love some Cascade hops.  We do some homebrewing and my DH is a big fan of Lagunitas IPA, anything that would get us near that would be fantastic!

Plus the mellow-out vibe can't go wrong!!!

Let me know if you have any rhizomes I can buy, is that how they propagate?  I'm new to all this...

Thanks,

Jody
brett watson


Joined: Apr 18, 2011
Posts: 100
Location: Northern California Zone 8b
Most IPAs use different varieties of hops together and a lot of them. However you can get pretty similar results with just one variety. Cascades have a good aroma and an ok alpha acid content for bittering. Where you live is going to be a big indicator of what you should grow. Some varieties will grow better in your zone than in mine. Cascades do well here in N.California because they like the sun and get a really good, long growing season. I could harvest right now whereas others growing Cascades north of here won't harvest for another month or so.
I'll let you know if/when I split the rhizomes up and we can deal or barter.
I'll post some pics of this year's growth soon.
Jody Tracy


Joined: Jul 17, 2011
Posts: 19
Great, thanks for the advice!
brett watson


Joined: Apr 18, 2011
Posts: 100
Location: Northern California Zone 8b
Here's some pics from this years hops. I am late on harvesting.
This year I used jute twine instead of wire so I can just pile the vines up after harvest, probably right where the rhizomes are.
The chickens love the understory and keep it nice and clean down there.


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brett watson


Joined: Apr 18, 2011
Posts: 100
Location: Northern California Zone 8b
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john gault


Joined: Aug 30, 2011
Posts: 7
I want to grow hops in North Carolina. How much sun to shade ratio do you guys recommend?
brett watson


Joined: Apr 18, 2011
Posts: 100
Location: Northern California Zone 8b
That is a question that is best answered considering the type of hop you want to grow. My Cascades are full, hot (100+) sun all day.
                            


Joined: Aug 21, 2011
Posts: 79
i found some hops growing next to railroads and seems now its ripening time for them... i dont have conditions to make beer, does anybody knows how else i could use them (theyre too bitter for eating like this)?
brett watson


Joined: Apr 18, 2011
Posts: 100
Location: Northern California Zone 8b
they are a main ingredient of sleep pillows or dream pillows. You can also make a tea out of them and they make a pretty little decoration or garland if you are so inclined, maybe a wreath
                            


Joined: Aug 21, 2011
Posts: 79
thanx. i forgot this about pillows. but i meant more for eating stuff. and i will take seeds for sure, and grow them one day in my farm since i plan to make beer.....
brett watson


Joined: Apr 18, 2011
Posts: 100
Location: Northern California Zone 8b
don't forget that you wan't to try to keep just the female plant for un-pollinated cones, best for brewing. If you are able to get seeds that means there is are male plants around. If there are no seeds they are probably females and you can just dig up rhizomes in the winter.
            


Joined: Jun 27, 2010
Posts: 75
Location: Ontario, Canada (44.265475, -77.960029)
john gault wrote:
I want to grow hops in North Carolina. How much sun to shade ratio do you guys recommend?


Ask Jeanine Davis at NC Alternative Crops an Organics. She's good folks.

Regards,
Mike


Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist.
                            


Joined: Aug 21, 2011
Posts: 79
If you are able to get seeds that means there is are male plants around


yes, a little bit in north they grow hops a lot, and i found it next to railroads, there is seeds and its just time to harvest now. thanx for tips
Brad Davies
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Joined: Sep 22, 2011
Posts: 212
Location: Clarkston, MI
    
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I currently have 6 different varieties of hops growing in my yard. Willamette, Nugget, Cascade, Centennial, Chinook, and Columbus. They will be starting their 2-3yrs this spring. I believe spring is rhizome digging season, as well as planting season. If anyone is interested I might have some roots to share. I have no idea how many rhizomes I can get off of one 3yr old plant but I'll get what I can and pass them on. Not really looking to sell, but would love to trade for seeds 

Also anyone have an idea for a hop guild? I am thinking a clover ground cover, and something that the vines can grow on that can be cut down each year with the vine still attached. Would need to reach at least 20' during the season and coppice / pollard. I was thinking bamboo, or maybe Black locust any ideas?

SE, MI, Zone 5b "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work."
~Thomas Edison
brett watson


Joined: Apr 18, 2011
Posts: 100
Location: Northern California Zone 8b
Cool Brad. Any pics?
I would be interested in rhizomes. I would trade but you already have Cascades. I don't have seeds unfortunately either.

My chickens love the hops understory and I find it difficult to keep anything else growing there because they munch it down.
Brad Davies
volunteer

Joined: Sep 22, 2011
Posts: 212
Location: Clarkston, MI
    
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brett watson wrote:
Cool Brad. Any pics?
I would be interested in rhizomes. I would trade but you already have Cascades. I don't have seeds unfortunately either.

My chickens love the hops understory and I find it difficult to keep anything else growing there because they munch it down.


No pics right now, but I can take some. Pretty much just a 50' x 30' patch of clover / rye with 6 different hops growing on tomato cages. I haven’t got around to making a trellis system, haven’t needed it yet, but I will have to get one going for next year. I had a nest of rabbits under one of them, deer, and a big gopher make their way out there every day to graze. This has actually protected the rest of my gardens as they seem content to eat the clover and not my “good” stuff.
Jay Ritchie


Joined: Nov 24, 2011
Posts: 9
Does any one have a reccomendation for a variety to use in Central Illinois? Also, I assume they can be planted early in the spring after the soil can be worked, or in the fall before the ground freezes. Would that be accurate?
brett watson


Joined: Apr 18, 2011
Posts: 100
Location: Northern California Zone 8b
Hey Jay check out this thread at a homebrew forum and see if you might glean some answers there. I live in Northern California and have a drastically different climate than you do.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f92/illinois-eastern-face-growing-hops-56450/

Good luck!
Brad Davies
volunteer

Joined: Sep 22, 2011
Posts: 212
Location: Clarkston, MI
    
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Jay Ritchie wrote:Does any one have a reccomendation for a variety to use in Central Illinois? Also, I assume they can be planted early in the spring after the soil can be worked, or in the fall before the ground freezes. Would that be accurate?


I'm in SE MI and have 6 types: Cascade, Centennial, Columbus, Chinook, Nugget, and Williamette. All of them have done well so far, though the Williamette didn't look so hot and on top of bad growth was ravaged by beetles this year. I would imagine any of these would do well in your area. I'll be digging up and moving these in the spring, if I can get some rhizome off of them I'll make sure to offer them up here first.

Spring time is planting season and usually the only time you can buy rhizomes online. Basically as soon as the ground thaws or a little after.
 
 
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