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Ken Peavey
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Ok, I'll start this thing off with a Social Lounge.  The only rule is Be Nice.  you don't have to be single/straight/tall/mentally stable/or a member of any demographic group.  Think of this thread as a virtual gathering place for a cup of coffee, a light cocktail or tequila shots.

If posting a description of yourself in front of the whole world brings unease, you can get involved in here and get your feet wet first.  Post whatever you like, tell stories or jokes, ask questions of others.  There's no pressure or competition so you don't have to show off or put on a show.  Relax, sit down, be yourself, have a good time. 

How was your day?  Whats on your mind?  Tell us about that time at the concert with that old fiend of yours from wherever.    Sports? Movies? Recipes? Politics?  Religion? Pets? Job? Hobbies?  Everyone has their Thing, whatever that may be.  Tell us about it.  Go ahead and blog. 

Not looking for romance?  Not single?  Not interested?  Not a problem.  You can still interact with all the fine people.  The more, the merrier.


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I think you meant to post the topic in the forum below this one
Ken Peavey
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I think this is a good spot.  We're breaking into uncharted territory, can use all the help we can get.

Kudos for being the pioneer with your post.

Ken Peavey
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Its Friday night, I'm at home as usual.  Made a meatball sub with meatballs and tomato sauce I put up darn near 2 years ago, plus some wheat rolls and a whole lotta swiss cheese.  Enough left to make another one.

I'm enjoying a tall coffee with probably way too much cream liquor (and ample reserves), staying warm in my chair under a quilt my sister made.  Having no life, I've wandered into the story of the Irish Potato Famine, into which I shall plunge. 
rose macaskie


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  Reading ken peaveys post last i woul dlike to say how can one talk of oneself, a quick verbal tango.
  i love meeting people i love seeign different types of people i would say i loved people but i don't aleways find relating to them for a good few years that much fun , you need leadership qualities and a strong place in the group to mix wiht others. I don't mean to push them around leadership qualities are goo dso you don't get pushed around or to promote healthy and fun activities.
  I love opinion i don't like confrontation but now i do it, that is part of being a verbal zen warrior, if a bad one.
  i used to try to love people i used to think of all their good points and turn away from there bad ones and treasure them up, except those that really hurt me, when i was aware of how they did me down and then i got kicked in the teeth from just about everybody and had to learn to say what i thought.
      This  usually annoys people even when its not a confrontational thought. the minute my point of veiw differes from the other personsthough it seems to be a fairly neutral subject  it seems to cause a pretty violent emotional reaction though it could just cause a calm and dispassionate review of the subjects.
      It is incredible to what point people want you to think like them. So i have a very rich interior life in which i love people and an intercomunication with them that is now often dedicated to not letting it pass if i have a difference of opinion always letting them know i don't agree. That does not make for enjoying peoples company so much as i did when i was trying to smooth everythign over. I suppose its more responsable. you cant imagine what its like to hear what others think you think or used to think if you are not defending your points of veiw,  they thinki you are someone else and not someone very nice  an dsomeone very stupid. i don't think women  like money, i of course money is a necesity men did ask me to do the boring job aso they could get on with their more interesting carrer when i was young no booyfreind of mine seemed to worry about my career unless it was a humble one .That was a bit frightening and events have born out the sensibleness of the fear. THe most frightening thing about humans is that they are cut throat. HTere is no bit of selfishness that ahs such a devastatin geffect as the cuthtroat ness of others which of course is much more destructive than a bit of selfisheness. Exeryone seems to  like finding all others so very stuid so much . that they only notice their stupid remarks. they like to find others useless.
  i never stopped dreaming of england excepting the first two years in spain, maybe year. here people i knew thought i was relating to them in a really freindly way, i was just filling in i wanted to be back with all the people i had know before the society i had know was a bit more like being laughing with those on the daily show than anything i had known here, here they are trying to turn you into the stupid woman who coooks for them and smiles at them and doesnot at all compete on th eintellectual level . they are not being fun with you. they are pressign you into a mold.and they want to see that modl so much that they don't often notice it bores you. I have hardly ever seen my aunts and uncles and cousins agian . it is like being part of a disaster except you don't know it till later. .
    It is not that the people here are essentially boring or often not it is that my status is not such as to make them try very hard to amuse me, the opinoiion of my husbands family of my abilities allow people to think that i am easily amused with stupidities .also christianity had lead me to try to be very nice to people even though they bored me and so i was not really pushing the conversation up, i let them keep things stupid. I was trying not to squash people by letting them know if i kinew more than them when i did . often i think you need to be competative it brings out the best in others. was always waiting for things to get better. This is a warnigng  to those wh migrate or leave their home towns. you don't forget the people you knew, not ten or twenty or thirty years later and you hardlly ever see everyone you used to know again.
  does not one talk of films and thigns to find out what the other person likes, they introduce lots of situations and someone saying they like nature or parties and such really stays very uncomplicated and can in the end lead you not to understand them at all. what do they like about parties what are thier aims with other people, people they meet at parties.
for those looking for partners i would say know your partner in a group when you see how they treat the most attractive members of the group an dhow the leaqst you know if you will like being with them.
                                


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That Potato Famine story looks like a good read, saved it for later. I have heard the story in the "25 words or less" versions, it will be nice to flesh it out a little, especially in light of the blight we had here (US) last year on tomatoes.
Is any rich widow-woman looking for an old fart on his last leg? Didn't think so, lol.
Jami McBride
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Potato famine, moral of the story = Don't forget diversity in planting!

Rose: You said -
"often i think you need to be competative it brings out the best in others. "

Yes, or distracting, engaging, funny - basically anything that moves them.  Being competitive can backfire though.  Many people are insecure and easily intimidated, so they will be nice to your face but not embrace you at a deeper level, very few like challenging relationships.  It's best to be genuine I think, and a little engaging, only compete when someone challenges you (or your bored).  LOL - I'm a fine one to talk, I'm competitive!

" i would say know your partner in a group when you see how they treat the most attractive members of the group an dhow the leaqst you know if you will like being with them."

I would say NO - everyone I've met that knows how to work a group well, including the least in the group is a player - run the other way, run away.... 

Ken Peavey
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I've been thinking about a new pet.
Jennifer Smith


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USB rock, silly. 

I too am home settled in alone as usual, and I am a newlywed.  My mate and I have been together several years.  I got the idea it was time to get a farm of our own to set up for retirement... so I am here and he is at the gulf. 

I recently got a housemate but she is with her children tonight.

The horses are settled in with plenty of hay and warm water, the chickens are on the roost, dog and cat napping...all is well.

I am playing with my fish-tanks and house-plants and catching up on email...
Ken Peavey
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Tonight I drew firewatch.  We shot gunnite to repair a wall in a scrubber.  It has to be cured with heat.  A propane burner was attached to the manhole of the scrubber.  It gets lit up and bakes the place for a few days.  Someone has to keep an eye on the flame.  Won't be too bad, I'll be in a truck with a big thermos of coffee and a blanket.  I'll take my snowmobile suit, supposed to get down to 20.

Saturday is all overtime, easy money.  If my shift started at midnight instead of 11PM it would be double time Sunday.  Sometimes you gotta take what you can get.

Savin up for my farm.
                                


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"Savin up for my farm"
That's it, keep your eyes on the prize.
Ken Peavey
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I need a name for my farm.  Stone Soup Farm is the latest idea but its taken (1 in MA, 1 in IL).  Before that was Morning Dew Farm (something like a dozen of them).  I suppose I'll come up with something when I get the land and get it going.  You folks have any suggestions?
Jami McBride
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I like rhymes and similar sounding words, which bring to mind movement or action    Like good old pub names.  BTW- pub stands for Public Meeting Place for families (kids included), not nasty old bar like now days.

These are also taken, but will give more food for thought....

Prancing Pony
Dancing Dog
Green Griffin 
Orange Oak
Happy Haven/Hollow
______ Farm,  Fern Grove Farm
______ Place

Hum..... we need more words --------------------------------------

place where humans live -
Synonyms:
abode, address, apartment, asylum, boarding house, bungalow, cabin, castle, cave*, co-op, commorancy, condo, condominium, cottage, crash pad, diggings, digs, domicile, dormitory, dump*, dwelling, farm, fireside, flat, habitation, hangout, haunt, hearth, hideout, hole in the wall, home plate, homestead, hospital, house, hut, joint*, living quarters, manor, mansion, nest*, orphanage, pad, palace, parking place, place, residence, resort, roof*, rooming house, roost, shanty, shelter, trailer, turf, villa, where the hat is

rural area; area away from city
Synonyms:
back country, backwoods, boondocks, boonies, bush, countryside, cow country, farmland, farms, forests, green belt, hinterland, middle of nowhere, outback, outdoors, province, sticks, up country, wide open space, wilderness, wilds, woodlands, woods

location with purpose, function
Synonyms:
abode, accommodation, apartment, area, berth, city, community, compass, corner, country, distance, district, domicile, dwelling, field, habitat, hamlet, hangout, hole*, home, house, joint, latitude, lay, locale, locality, locus, longitude, neighborhood, niche, nook, pad, part, plant, point, position, property, quarter, region, reservation, residence, room, seat, section, site, situation, spot, station, stead, suburb, town, venue, vicinity, village, volume, whereabouts, zone

Okay....

Rusty Roost, Rusty Ranch, winding works with R's too - Winding Ranch.... etc.

Anything in your life or farm area that starts with 'S'?    You could try an 'S' in front of Stone Soup....?
Jennifer Smith


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I think something regional like Limestone Soup Farm Ozarks Stone Soup Farm, ...too long but get t idea...Ozark Morning Dew Farm, Dew With a View, etc... but made me think of a story...

Around here we have plenty of Ozark Sex Stones.  Now you may wonder what that is,.. just another f***ing rock.
Ken Peavey
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Stone Soup

Once upon a time there was a great famine across the land in which people jealously hoarded whatever food they could find, hiding it even from their friends and neighbors. One day a wandering soldier came into a village and began asking questions as if he planned to stay for the night.

"There's not a bite to eat in the whole province," he was told. "Better keep moving on."

"Oh, I have everything I need," he said. "In fact, I was thinking of making some stone soup to share with all of you." He pulled an iron cauldron from his wagon, filled it with water, and built a fire under it. Then, with great ceremony, he drew an ordinary-looking stone from a velvet bag and dropped it into the water.

By now, hearing the rumor of food, most of the villagers had come to the square or watched from their windows. As the soldier sniffed the "broth" and licked his lips in anticipation, hunger began to overcome their skepticism.

"Ahh," the soldier said to himself rather loudly, "I do like a tasty stone soup. Of course, stone soup with cabbage -- that's hard to beat."

Soon a villager approached hesitantly, holding a cabbage he'd retrieved from its hiding place, and added it to the pot. "Capital!" cried the soldier. "You know, I once had stone soup with cabbage and a bit of salt beef as well, and it was fit for a king."

The village butcher managed to find some salt beef . . . and so it went, through potatoes, onions, carrots, mushrooms, and so on, until there was indeed a delicious meal for all. The villagers offered the soldier a great deal of money for the magic stone, but he refused to sell and traveled on the next day.
Jami McBride
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Some more ideas.....

Use Olde English Place Names

Author James Rye wrote a couple of interesting guides that outlined how and why towns were named in certain ways when they were founded. In A Popular Guide to Norfolk Place-Names and A Popular Guide to Suffolk Place-Names, Rye described how the founders of various towns and places around the world came up with the names by using word parts that referred to either the names of the original family, the geography of the town or even referencing local natural features such as flora, fields or hills. The UK based website English Place Names lists a number of these word parts and their meanings. A few examples include:

    * Thorndon is a combination of thorn and dun, referencing a thorn tree hill
    * Ousden is a combination of uf and denu, meaning owls' valley
    * Downham uses the word part ham, which means homestead
    * Cantley ends in ey, which refers to an island
    * Elmswell uses the word part well, which means a spring

As you can imagine, by using the long list of place name elements from old traditional word parts, you can put together unique and descriptive Farm names without trying very hard.
Ken Peavey
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Looked at another site today.  5 acres, flat, has 3 trees on it, 3 miles from downtown.  Its not a buildable lot due to the elevation/road height or some damn thing.  Right next to it is an upscale subdivision and Lake Jeffrey.  For a PYO vegetable operation, it would serve my needs well. 

Power at the street, its on a corner, but no well.  I would expect a shallow well would be possible with the lake so close, <.5 miles.  Structures can be put in place with portable buildings and/or tractor trailers.  I'd need a workshop/toolroom, and a farm stand.  Across the street is woods so I can expect deer.  It'll need a fence.
                          


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how about a native word to descibe the area or sum such thing, i called my place burrawulla, an aboriginal word for white cockatoo


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Ken Peavey
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I've been reading Joel Salatin for the past few hours, can't put it down.

I like burrawulla but we have neither aborigines nor white cockatoos around here.  Seminoles, Spaniards, Confederates, Rednecks and lots of alligators.  The original name for Lake City was Alligator, Florida.  Probably one in the yard right now.  On a warm day they play Frogger on the highways.
                          


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sounds like you may need to call it splattagattor farm
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Ken Peavey wrote:
Looked at another site today.  5 acres, flat, has 3 trees on it, 3 miles from downtown.  Its not a buildable lot due to the elevation/road height or some damn thing.  Right next to it is an upscale subdivision and Lake Jeffrey.  For a PYO vegetable operation, it would serve my needs well. 

Power at the street, its on a corner, but no well.  I would expect a shallow well would be possible with the lake so close, <.5 miles.  Structures can be put in place with portable buildings and/or tractor trailers.  I'd need a workshop/toolroom, and a farm stand.  Across the street is woods so I can expect deer.  It'll need a fence.


Good morning Ken,

This sounds like a promising spot. Lots of potential customers from the subdivision, and temp trailer office would be fine to hang out in.  On a corner is always a bonus, can make for better access. 

So what kind of trees?  Is there anything there to use for a name? 

                                


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What about security? If you don't live there how will you watch it all?
Ken Peavey
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Good Morning, Smith.
The nearby Lake is Lake Jeffrey.  Lake Jeffrey Garden would be appropriate.  The 3 trees are oak, across the street is southern pine.

Security would be a fence at best.  Not really worth shooting someone over a cabbage.
Jennifer Smith


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hang out = stay in= live at ...

may not be legal to live there but can hang out at office all the time.  Maybe not for the family man... 
Ken Peavey
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On July 30 2006 a brief but intense thunderstorm rolled through town blowing a tree down onto my house.  The place is racked, no electricity or gas service.  Allstate offered $6348.  The case has finally made it in front of a judge after arbitration proved ineffective. 

I get my electricity from a neighbor.  15 amps, but I added a GFI limiting me to 14.5 amps.  There is no heat.  I use a camp stove with a propane tank.  Hot water is a pot on the stove.  I can make coffee, but I have to turn off the microwave.

I have given STRONG consideration of moving into a shed or camper.  Code enforcement is a hurdle.

Ken Peavey
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Here's the house with the tree and the tree removed


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i love big trees but not when they squash ya house, insurance company causing hold i imagine, so how much longer will they play with your mind/sanity before repairs power ect. sorry for your misfortune, good picks for people with large trees give them some thing to think about, in emergency service i see this sort of thing frequently in our wet season. how much structual damage was photo shows roof damage but not much more, but there is obviosly more damage not visible
Jennifer Smith


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Nice thing about the modular office trailer...trailer.  I hear they ar selling a bunch of used ones near Mobiland that they should go cheap...not first hand info I am afraid, but could get a follow up
Ken Peavey
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found one on craigslist for a grand
Jennifer Smith


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well, does that make that piece of property more appealing?  Sounds like an affordable solution for a temp problem...but we all know that temporary solutions often last a lifetime.
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Rose & Jami:
Jami McBride wrote:

" i would say know your partner in a group when you see how they treat the most attractive members of the group an dhow the leaqst you know if you will like being with them."

I would say NO - everyone I've met that knows how to work a group well, including the least in the group is a player - run the other way, run away.... 


Interesting. I certainly know people who are like that but completely genuine, but I can see what you mean, Jami - it could sometimes be an act.

I would add: watch them with their friends (and probably family, but that's way more complex) and also take notice how they treat waiters and shop staff. No secret formula, but you might learn something.


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Well how about help with a name for our place... we plan to rent out horses at the field trials...Simple is "The Livery Stable"  anything better out there?

My intrest also runs to permaculture, aquaponics, and fruit it trees.... but business wise it is horses, horses, horses.
Ken Peavey
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Horsesmith Livery
Horsesmithy Stables
Canada
Listening Livery
Holistic Horse Home
Better Horse and Gardens
Road Apple Hollow

                          


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it would have to be your handle LISTENSTOHORSES
Jennifer Smith


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Good morning all,

Some fun names Ken. 

I think maybe I should say a little more about my clientell...researchers, doctors, lawyers, etc.  who are mostly not horsemen.  They want to get on a trouble free horse to watch their dogs run. 
...so smart older gentlemen who may have zero riding skill and who will be distracted watching their dog hunt. 

So something that means... "horses anyone can ride, blindfolded, with one hand tied behind their back for rent"

I have a list of people who want the horses I produce so am not sure when I will actually have the rentals... but I am honered that the guy who spoke for River did.  He is not only a real nice guy but a noted research doctor. 

He has wanted one of my horses for a long time.  He would call me to ask and I would say nothing now but I can look around... every 3 months for close to a year he would contact me.  River is just now turning 4. 

(9 of 10 horses here are under 5, 4 are yearlings)

Anyway got off subject there...so anyone know some cute words that mean what I am looking for or close?

again...
"idot proof horses for grandpa to ride thru traffic"

Ken Peavey
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Out To Pasture Incorporated
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[I moved the previous to the introduction thread where it was more appropriate.]
I, too, have been trying to come up with a name for my property - I am quite tired of calling it that.  Jamie - thank you for posting Olde English Place Names!  It is a hill top and there are hawthorns so Thorndon is perfect!  My spell checker didn't like that - it prefers it to be spelled Thorn-don.  I think I like it without the hyphen.
Ken - so sorry about your house.  What a hassle!  I say absolutely go after your insurance company.  And how about naming your property after you find it so it can inspire you?  Or you could pick a name you like then go look for that place.  And I loved your creative description posting on the other thread!  I'm in upstate New York.  Plan on returning?

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Ken Peavey
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tired, hungry, filthy
Jennifer Smith


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Busy day

wet and muddy here
Ken Peavey
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A couple of long hard shifts this week. 
Sometimes you gotta sleep until you are done sleeping.
 
 
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