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Thomas Hawk


Joined: Apr 12, 2011
Posts: 11
I heard about this Desert land act and I was wondering if anyone knows anyone or is either in the process of claiming or already claimed some land. I have been looking into it and there is land still available. they say I need to get the land surveyed. I am trying to find any land available that might already be surveyed in Nevada. They say getting the land surveyed can be pretty pricey. I don't have enough money for that. Most of this land is considered useless to conventional farmers but in the case of permaculture we could turn a desert landscape into a oasis. Any advice helps thanks in advance.
Morgan Morrigan


Joined: Oct 16, 2011
Posts: 1400
Location: Verde Valley, AZ.
look for mining claims that were filed, then not followed up on.

they were typiclally staked, and you could use prior boundries as a previous property line. Might fulfill the spirit, if not the letter of the law.

look for ones that have old "drill holes' if you can, they say that about 90% of Nevada has oil or nat gas below.....


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Thomas Hawk


Joined: Apr 12, 2011
Posts: 11
This might be a problem because they say you need to survey the land to make sure that there isn't timber or minerals or even oil. This land needs to be useless other then agriculture use.
Morgan Morrigan


Joined: Oct 16, 2011
Posts: 1400
Location: Verde Valley, AZ.
if it was drilled, but not pumped, you can prob make the case that it didn't contain reserves....
Thomas Hawk


Joined: Apr 12, 2011
Posts: 11
for those of you who have replied have you tried this in Arizona?
Morgan Morrigan


Joined: Oct 16, 2011
Posts: 1400
Location: Verde Valley, AZ.
No, but we re-filed our families first lot, which was part of a claim, (subdivided patent) as a "homestead", and it was only a quarter acre.

Now, you could file a mining claim up there, do the discovery work, and when you don't find any minerals, you could claim the area was without natural rescources, and file a Desert Act claim on it.
You can file more than 1 claim, so if you did, say 4 or 5 contacting each other up a valley, you could then just survey the outside boundries with a kid to help hold a GPS receiver. It is pretty straightforward now to survey with GPS.
Tho how you would get water to it in 3 years would be tough. Vegas is filing for every water ranch they can get. That is the idea of infilling up a valley, by the time you got to the mountain foothills, you might find a spring, or drill right at the cusp, and get water and natural gas.

There is a great article in the Elko? paper newspaper site, about a rancher that knew ALOT of the drillers that were working NV. He said almost every hole they drilled found oil. Then they capped every single one of them. They thought it was a racket to get all the land under the Desert Act, or as a nature reserve. Well a billionaire just did exactly that, and filed for a wild horse sanctuary/ nature reserve.
He is going to water ranch, to sell it to Vegas, and he certainly believes there is oil AND gold in there too.

A LOT of Arizona is fractured , or valley infill. There just isn't that much groundwater to tap into. There is huge subduction, and earth cracks between Phx and Tucson area's from pumping for Ag, and to water down the Ag soil to wash the salts out from farming.

Nevada's basin and range didn't seem to get broken up as much when California slammed into what is now the west coast, and stuck there. For a while.

Thomas Golds theory is that the entire area from the Colorado Plataue, to the black hills has gas and oil down there. just about every property in the middel of the country from the Smokies to the Cascades could drill a well and get gas, but the Ollagalla resivoir gets in the way of most.
Christopher de Vidal


Joined: Nov 17, 2010
Posts: 100
Can you fill us in with what's going on here? Links to more information, other discussions, etc. Thanks.
Amit Enventres


Joined: Mar 24, 2011
Posts: 120
    
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Hi,

I just called the BLM on this to see if there's any more land available under this act. The nice lady on the other end of the phone said there may still be some in SW Idaho, but for that was a few years ago. All other land is either taken or doesn't qualify.
Miles Flansburg
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Joined: Feb 03, 2011
Posts: 2254
Location: Zones 2-4 Wyoming and 4-5 Colorado
    
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Here is some info.

http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/more/lands/desert_land_entries.html

Order forms or get them from the BLM office.

http://www.formsinword.com/BLMbureauoflandmanagementformsinword.htm

Surveying may not be a problem. Most BLM land is already surveyed into Sections that measure 1 mile X 1 mile square. There are perminent markers at all of the corners that have been surveyed. Once you find the corner post it is really simple to measure off quarter sections and then quarter quarters.

The BLM people do not want you to claim this land. If all of the land is claimed... No more job for them , right? So keep after them to give you the forms. It took me several months of non stop visits to get my BLM person to even admit that I could do it and to finally give me the paperwork. They will not make it easy for you. I finally gave up and bought land.

 
 
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