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Growing Wheat Without Buying Fertilizer

Brandon Greer


Joined: Apr 22, 2012
Posts: 218
Location: 1 Hour Northeast Of Dallas
    
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Hi, I'm curious how I could grow wheat in North Texas without buying fertilizers. Is it possible to get fertilizer from the land somehow than from the store? I'm new to this so any advice will be well-received!
maikeru sumi-e


Joined: Dec 14, 2010
Posts: 312
Don't think in terms of fertilizer; rather, think in terms of fertility.


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Jordan Lowery
volunteer

Joined: Sep 26, 2009
Posts: 1528
Location: zone 7
    
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read masanobu fukuoka's books.

we dont fertilize our wheat.


The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings. - Masanobu Fukuoka
Brandon Greer


Joined: Apr 22, 2012
Posts: 218
Location: 1 Hour Northeast Of Dallas
    
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Thanks for the replies. I'll definitely check out those books!
John Polk
steward

Joined: Feb 20, 2011
Posts: 6437
Location: Moving to: NE Washington USDA zone 5 Western steppes to the Rockies
    
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Fukuoka's "Natural Way of Farming" is available here as a free download.

"One Straw Revolution" is back in print, so the library can no longer offer it as a free download.

Brandon Greer


Joined: Apr 22, 2012
Posts: 218
Location: 1 Hour Northeast Of Dallas
    
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Thanks John, You just saved me $10
Taylor Stewart


Joined: Feb 15, 2012
Posts: 45
    
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We mob graze cattle on some flat farm ground to build fertility (usually just volunteer weeds and alfalfa, but sometimes planted annuals). It takes a couple years to build fertility before you can take a crop, but you keep the soil alive in the process. That ground produced an average of 90bu/acre wheat a few years ago; there were areas in the field where the monitor was well over 100bu/acre! The state average was 44bu/acre, and the neighbors produced about 50bu/acre on similar soil using conventional methods.

Then you run the cattle back on the ground after a flush of weeds emerges, seeding turnips ahead of the herd so they stomp it in for you. The turnips will emerge and provide you with early winter forages to graze. And people say we can't feed the world with sustainable agriculture?
Tyler Ludens
pollinator

Joined: Jun 25, 2010
Posts: 5326
Location: Central Texas USA Latitude 30 Zone 8
    
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Can you mention where in the world you're located, Taylor?


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chris cromeens


Joined: Apr 26, 2012
Posts: 59
Location: north texas 7b now 8a
we do the same here, not as many acres, but cell graze cattle using them to drive the seed. We did rye as it does better on poor soils and produces more biomass than conventional wheat. Be sure to also seed clovers to keep the ground cover and build N. I know this works with turnips, chicory, radishes,broccoli raab,mustard, rye, wheat, oats, sunflowers, probably any other seed but those are the seeds I have tried. It has done better for me on my sandy soils than working the soil, oh yeah I am in N. Texas.


circles, cycles, phases, and stages
Taylor Stewart


Joined: Feb 15, 2012
Posts: 45
    
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I'm in central Nebraska, just outside of the sand hills.
Terri Matthews


Joined: Nov 21, 2010
Posts: 405
Location: Eastern Kansas
    
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Way back when, people used to rotate between growing legumes and grain. They also applied manure from their livestock.

For my own garden, I allowed clover to grow in my lawn and I mulched the vegetables with my lawn(and clover) clippings. As the clippings rotted they supplied most of the nutrients the plants got, though I DID fertilize every few years.

My yields were never anything to brag about, but they were not poor, either, and I was growing vegetables for almost no money. The tomatos were sweet and I was happy with my garden!

At any rate, can you rotate grain with legumes?
Brenda Groth
volunteer

Joined: Feb 01, 2009
Posts: 4433
Location: North Central Michigan
    
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i plan to sow my winter wheat as a cover crop where I harvest my summer crops this year..of course I'll only be growing a very small amount for my own household bread..I have hulless oats and hulless barley planted now and I also plan to plant corn, amaranth, wheat and rye for grain crops this year (too cold here yet to put corn in in zone 4)


Brenda

Bloom where you are planted.
http://restfultrailsfoodforestgarden.blogspot.com/
chris cromeens


Joined: Apr 26, 2012
Posts: 59
Location: north texas 7b now 8a
Have been using the cell grazing, crop rotation, pasture building as part of a holistic grazing plan for 3 yrs. now. We live on your typical permaculture homestead property (too poor for grazing or agriculture). In this time I have put grass where there was only sand and cactus, taken the ruminants off storebought supplements (other than mineral lick and applecider vinergar)more because of GMO than anything, and raise fodder crops (to get there head in a bucket when we milk, supplement the chickens,pigs etc.). I have sold the tractor, we weren't using it. Haven't started the tiller in over a year. Producing more food than we ever have with less inputs (labor included). I do the same cell grazing w/ chickens in my zone 1. This system and the food forest is what brought me to permaculture. Now I am a function stacking fool, consciously aware of and on the look out for the relationships between things, and constantly figuring out how to do things with what I have i.e. pig swaling. Never going back, permaculture takes all the senses and sensations I have gotten from hunting and wildcrafting my whole life, and brings them home.
Brandon Greer


Joined: Apr 22, 2012
Posts: 218
Location: 1 Hour Northeast Of Dallas
    
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Hm I'm not receiving email alerts for replies. There is a lot of great info here that I missed! Anyway, that you all for the info and especially the advice to read One Straw Revolution. I have a new found passion
John Meshna


Joined: Jul 22, 2006
Posts: 111
Location: Vermont
A customer of ours from Texas called to order a truckload of Winter Peas from us. Since it was such a big order we asked him what in the world he was doing with them. He said he made his own fertilizer with them. When they grow they fix nitrogen into the soil and when they matured he harvested them and dried them and he had a way of grinding them up and he used the ground up peas for fertilizer that he spread on the fields. He tilled under the chaf. He said he'd been doing it for a couple of decades and never bought fertilizer. Sounded like a great idea.
http://www.dirtworks.net


John Meshna (owner)
Green State Hydroponics
1195 Dog Team Road
New Haven, Vt 05472
 
 
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