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Had cancer and beat it with alternative medicine?

Amedean Messan
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I was doing some research on alternative medicine for cancer treatment but I am discouraged at how many scam artists there are promoting dubious products.

WARNING - SCAM EXAMPLE BELOW

http://alternativecancer.us/pawpaw.htm

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A one-month supply of Paw Paw costs $40 for 180 capsule. The standard dose is six capsules a day so one bottle is a one month supply. This makes Paw Paw one of the least expensive alternative cancer treatment available. Each capsule contains 8 mg of standardized paw paw extract Asimina triloba.


WARNING - SCAM EXAMPLE ABOVE


Cutting through the BS, who here has actually treated themselves or an immediate family member using an effective alternative medicine or treatment for clinically diagnosed cancer? I am not asking for a friend or somebody you may have heard of but an actual person within your immediate vicinity in which you have intimate knowledge of the treatment and have witnessed progression.

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Shawn Harper


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My grandmother while not cancer free, has lived over a decade after the doctors told her she would die, more than half of that off chemo. Her diet is all organic veggies and fruit, chicken, and fish. No red meat, pork, processed foods, ect.


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Amedean Messan
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Thank you for sharing your input, may I ask what kind of cancer?
Lisa Allen


Joined: Mar 25, 2011
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Location: San Diego, CA USA
A good website to explore options with cancer is http://cancertutor.com - I hope this helps! Will stay tuned...


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Amedean Messan
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Thanks Lisa for taking your time and I appreciate your input. I have to admit I am skeptical of the link because there is on the top left had corner a link for sponsors where I can find "'secrete' clinics that heal cancer". Is there a particular link in this website that you recommend?
Lisa Allen


Joined: Mar 25, 2011
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Location: San Diego, CA USA
Well, I am more of a "do-it-yourselfer" type and would likely ask my family to help me with administering protocols that can be done that way. I would work with a doctor if needed though, but this is me and I would not blindly recommend my approach for others, since my method of choice may not work for them. I have heard really good things about this website in general, so research all of the options and choose wisely.

I am betting the reason for an ad like that is because in the USA it is technically illegal to treat cancer unless surgery, radiation and/or chemotherapy are used - not just for the doctors, but also for the patients. Any casual internet search will reveal severe legal consequences for refusal of any of these treatments while seeking other methods. Any person wishing to use these therapies needs to really do the research for themselves to see if these treatments are worth the risks, and the money. I would look at all choices, and make the best choice for the circumstances and I do not believe in one-size-fits-all cancer treatment at all. It is very important for people who use conventional, alternative and/or a combination do so with full knowledge and consent for their decisions. No one should feel "forced" in any way by not knowing all that is out there to help. I wish all the very best of healing energies, no matter what is chosen!
tel jetson
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not exactly "alternative medicine," but I did read an article recently the mentioned several studies about fasting and chemotherapy. the upshot is that fasting can reduce or eliminate many of the side effects of chemotherapy while retaining its efficacy. sounds pretty darn promising to me.


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Lisa Allen


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Right - that is what I mean about making good choices about everything involved. Another type of chemotherapy that is available is one that they mix insulin with, called "Low Dose." Cancer cells on average have 19 receptors for insulin, where regular cells have on average only two. So they can mix these things together, the cancer cells absorb more of the chemo, and less is absorbed by the regular cells. So you can see how the dose of Chemo can be lower to do the same job! EXPLORE all options!
gani et se


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While not completely "alternative," Paul Stamets work with turkey tail mushrooms, which is being tested by some scientific agency (sorry, can't recall which) helped his mother survive stage 4 cancer. Whether she is "cured" I don't know, and she took the turkey tail (essence?) as well as standard chemo. Stamets talks about it.


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Peony Jay


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IMHO, I think anyone with cancer should get an expert's opinion and not rely on internet rumours and anonymous 'tips.'

http://www.amazon.ca/Cancer-Word-Sentence-Robert-Buckman/dp/1552636992
Dr. Robert Buckman is an oncologist, author, humourist and the president of the Canadian Humanist Society. He's quite an interesting fellow. The book "Cancer is a Word, Not a Sentence" may be helpful and his book entitled "What you really need to know about Cancer" is good too.

BTW, there are tons of conspiracy theorists and 'alt medicine' experts out there. "Dr." Hulda Clark wrote 3 books and was an 'expert' on Cancer. Her 3 books- "The Cure for Cancer", "The Cure for Advanced Cancer" , and "The Cure For All Disease." She made a lot of $$$ selling these books and convincing people to dry her 'methods.'

"Dr." Hulda Clark died of multiple myeloma.

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John Saltveit
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There is a very reputable source called AICR American Institute for Cancer Research on the web. ALso Dr. Joel Fuhrman has done an enormous amount of research covering decades. They both say the same thing. Eat veggies and fruits. Exercise. GOMBS-Green leafy vegs, O-onions, leeks,M-mushrooms, B-berries and beans S-seeds and nuts. THat's what you should eat.
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Lisa Allen


Joined: Mar 25, 2011
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Location: San Diego, CA USA
While I absolutely agree with looking over methods of cancer treatment and looking at the evidence, I hope no one is fooled into thinking that conventional techniques are even remotely successful - look up the figures yourself if you have not yet done so. I do not call living in tremendous pain and a severely lowered quality of life for just barely over 5 years a "success" by a long shot - and many die within 2 years. I have not only observed this statistically; it has touched me personally, in my own family and recently a friend my own age who died receiving the chemotherapy too quickly - and this happens way too often for me to be comfortable. Then you consider the financial portion of these therapies to see if it is worth it - and while others might think it is worth it (and that is their right), I do not. That is my value placement, and each person needs to assess their own value placement. No matter what, in any case, information ought to be available and reviewed first prior to such a serious decision.

Cancer is now the number one cause of death in the USA, along with Heart Disease (and more recently, Diabetes). The third cause of death just so happens to be iatrogenic causes, which means doctor-caused! This is by their own admission/figures, so I would imagine that if an independent source was recording and analyzing data, we could even discover that iatrogenic causes are number one (and I believe nearly all chronic diseases are caused or at least perpetuated by doctors "managing" the disease instead of providing cure, especially when they know one is available, and would therefore also classify as an iatrogenic cause).

Along the same lines: for the first time in decades, the number one cause of accidental death is not vehicle accidents - it is errors in prescription drugs! Now I have not yet seen the breakdown of what percentage is doctor error, what percentage is pharmacy error, and/or what percentage is patient error - or even more cynically, using prescription meds illegally (i.e. teenagers getting into their parents' muscle relaxers or depression/anxiety meds, and taking more than prescribed in any case, or weirder, people selling their meds to others), and I understand that a noticeable percentage are even prescribed correctly (we can look at Michael Jackson and Heath Ledger for celebrity cases of this). However, I am still stunned that this has now surpassed vehicle accidents. I do understand that street drugs (including marijuana) were not included in these figures, but I will double-check on that.

While individual doctors could actually care about you, for about 150 years, the AMA (in the USA) actively creates a legal scenario where doctors cannot practice the way they might wish to do so. It is a business and in order to continue to make money with artificially-inflated costs for treatments that basically bring people to the brink of death, they must continue to manipulate the laws so that they keep their competitors at bay, especially if they have methods of actual cure and if they are cost-effective. These competitors are prohibited from practice at steep legal consequences, criminally and financially (thus the reason you may find cancer treatment clinics outside of the USA).

On the note of costs, I realize much of this can be psychological, i.e. "I will pay top dollar for the very best treatment available and if I die and I lose my house so my kids cannot inherit my property; oh well, that was the best that was available." Do not believe it (well, unless you want to believe it). Again, it is about research.

While healthy eating is great, it is my observation that much more help may be needed than that since nearly always, cancer can grow faster than healthy cells are replaced (especially some types of cancers) - and whatever methods are chosen really need to be for that individual, which could be a combination - and there are some wonderful combination therapy clinics in the USA doing wonderful work. In the case of Dr. Hulda Clark, I think many of the things she was doing were good, but I also wonder if she had combined therapies, whether they were conventional or even energetic healing for the subtle bodies (i.e. emotional body, etc.) could have allowed her to live. I guess we won't know. I think of something similar with Steve Jobs as well.

Let me please be clear that I am not about eliminating the choices of conventional treatments. For some people, these methods may really help and they really should be available. There are instances (usually involving trauma or injury) in which I feel their services are invaluable. However, the record undoubtedly shows incompetence of the system (not the doctor, the system) of handling any form of chronic disease and conditions. No amount of titles after their names can change the actual results that happen.

Let me also mention to look carefully at results of other methods you are looking into, which could be harder to track down but worth the effort for your own education and therefore the ability to make better choices.

In hindsight, I didn't mean to write a book here (haha!) - May ALL be empowered with true choice and exercise that right! May the life force flow easily
Morgan Morrigan


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Posts: 1400
Location: Verde Valley, AZ.
A new stem cell project found that they can be engineered to make macrophages tailored to target specific cancers.

Bloodroot excavates surface skin cancers, but can't be used on thin skin areas. Have to have a half inch of depth to use it. Or it spreads the excavation horizontally. NOT good.!
They still have no idea how it works, and is banned in the U.S.

Magnolia tree bark will allow chemo chem levels to drop below noticeable side effect levels, since they are essentially poisoning you. It acts by keeping the celluar mechs from pumping out the lowered levels of chems.
Being patented in the flower/cone by a southern university. they tried to patent the bark tea extract, but has been used in chinese medicine for 4000 years.

There is a doc at one of the San Diego universities that says we have the whole system wrong, that we should be dumping lots of oxidizers into the system, to induce MORE apostasis.
I started using a weight lifters energy drink that peaks up production of nitric oxide levels in the blood and tissues. But had too much caffeine in it also. IF i could find another of the same type, i would start up again.

Lots of work also in trying to starve out the tumors with blood and oxy limitation, but melanomas have a way around that, they just go into hibernation.

Aspirin seems to help, try going with chopped up Queen of the Meadow in your tea.

These folks are doing good work, and can help with decisions on alternatives, or at least scare the heck out of you. They tend to go overboard on the dont's.
http://whatstheharm.net/index.html

if you are going in for radiation therapy, might want to read this, and there is another company out there with a pill for astronauts that does the same thing, and one that stops rna and dna from trying to repair itself. may be usefull in the future. supposedly they are finished products.
http://blog.imva.info/medicine/magnesium-calcium-protect-dna-radiation

I know of no one who has gone any route that has worked for long.
Morgan Morrigan


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Location: Verde Valley, AZ.
was looking up the firepaste, and came across this.

http://www.baytoday.ca/content/news/details.asp?c=8267
Morgan Morrigan


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Got Milk?

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-04/sp-hlo042312.php
Peony Jay


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Posts: 145
Location: B.C.
A good book. "Foods that fight cancer." http://www.amazon.com/Foods-Fight-Cancer-Essential-prevent/dp/0756628679
Morgan Morrigan


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Location: Verde Valley, AZ.
This looks promising. If we could figure how to trigger it in tumors

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120503125645.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily+%28ScienceDaily%3A+Latest+Science+News%29
Morgan Morrigan


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latest just in, an antipsychotic

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-05-thioridazine-cancer-stem-cells-human.html#firstCmt
wayne stephen
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I treat myself for alot of ailments with herbs - asthma,hay fever , arthritis and have some positive results . I believe that we evolved eating alot of plants that are missing from the modern diet. Poke and lambsquarters , nettles , etc. I am also a nurse and work in long term care , palliative , and hospice settings. I have seen alot of people succumb to these diseases . Hundreds . I know cancer is a broad term to describe many different types of cell mutations that are all unique. They all respond to different treatments. Or not. 4 freinds of ours have been diagnosed with cancers - 2 skin and 2 breast - all went with alternative treatment and 3 are gone. As far as I know the fourth freind treated a skin cancer with blood root and excised it. I would love to know that there are effective alternatives out there . But if there are people out there who have had PET scans , CT scans , biopsies and have been diagnosed with lung , bone , spine , brain CA etc and have destroyed these with fruit and vegetable juices and this was a repeatable scenario - there would be alot of converts among physicians - alot.
Any one who will say that your local MD is in cahoots with big medicine and would try to hide this evidence does not know the doctors I have met . THey would be astounded . I do not mean to be morbid or cynical - but if you have been diagnosed with a serious life threatening cancer and you are opting out for fruit juice therapy - then you will probably need another natural remedy - morphine.


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Peony Jay


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Location: B.C.
Thanks, Wayne. Good post.

Doctors (like mine) are human beings with the same love for their own family members,friends and the community at large. They were motivated to get into medicine largely by an interest (and aptitude) in science, to help others and alleviate pain and suffering of illnesses. Often, there's a real personal story. (Like 'mom had cancer.')

I'm sure that my primary doctor would be open to treating her mom's breast cancer or sister's cervical cancer or dad's prostate cancer or child's leukemia with Alt. Medicine if there was convincing evidence the therapy worked.

Oncologist, Dr. Robert Buckman, has written many books with humour and caring on the subject of cancer. He has recommended that people try Alt. Therapies if that makes them feel better. ("I tried everything I could, damn it, to get fight this cancer.") Just don't sell the farm because some dude promises that his underground, top secret, 'repressed' Alt. Therapies will lighten your shakras, realign your whatchmacallems and re-energize your aura.

There's a lot of woo woo out there and the REAL motivation of those people is to lighten your wallet.
Dale Hodgins
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Peony Jay wrote:IMHO, I think anyone with cancer should get an expert's opinion and not rely on internet rumours and anonymous 'tips.'

http://www.amazon.ca/Cancer-Word-Sentence-Robert-Buckman/dp/1552636992
Dr. Robert Buckman is an oncologist, author, humourist and the president of the Canadian Humanist Society. He's quite an interesting fellow. The book "Cancer is a Word, Not a Sentence" may be helpful and his book entitled "What you really need to know about Cancer" is good too.

BTW, there are tons of conspiracy theorists and 'alt medicine' experts out there. "Dr." Hulda Clark wrote 3 books and was an 'expert' on Cancer. Her 3 books- "The Cure for Cancer", "The Cure for Advanced Cancer" , and "The Cure For All Disease." She made a lot of $$$ selling these books and convincing people to dry her 'methods.'

"Dr." Hulda Clark died of multiple myeloma.


I particularly agree with the first sentence above. If I were to compile a comprehensive list of the multitude of alternative "treatments" which are pure money grabbing, witch doctory, malarkey, my post would be immediately deleted so as not to offend both the gullible and their parasites.


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Peony Jay


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Parasites, Dale?

Well, whatchaknow! I happen to sell a cure. Send me $ and I'll give you my my top secret, coffee and habanero chili enema recipe.
Dale Hodgins
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Peony Jay wrote:Parasites, Dale?

Well, whatchaknow! I happen to sell a cure. Send me $ and I'll give you my my top secret, coffee and habanero chili enema recipe.


I can easily top that. I do $1.00 palm readings, aura readings and faith healing. Fortune telling is 50c .Here's a free one - If you've spent all your money on silliness, just rub guck on your chest,smell something nice, rub a shiny rock, chant,wish real hard and click your heels together. Then hold a basket toward heaven to reap your reward. You'll get exactly what you deserve.
Peony Jay


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Will you be my guru?

Dale Hodgins
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Peony Jay wrote:Will you be my guru?


Most definately. But since we are all embrionic gods, it is just a matter of time and you will be your own guru. I'll help with the re birthing. It's at my place and it's clothing optional.
Peony Jay


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Oh great. I'll have to be my own doula.

"Life's a bitch, then you die. Then you're born again. Then you you die. Then you're born...."
Morgan Morrigan


Joined: Oct 16, 2011
Posts: 1400
Location: Verde Valley, AZ.
here is a miracle cure on leukemia and pneumonia at the same time.

http://www.naturalnews.com/034591_vitamin_C_mega-dose_healing.html

and how to make it.

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/liposomalC.htm

and the doc who does it.
http://www.livonlabs.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/LypoC/about-livon-labs.html

has always been a problem to get the blood levels up, this seems to solve it.

i am actually using bodybuilders workout mix that boosts the Nitric Oxide levels, basically ADDING oxidants, to get rid of cysts.
works great, but dont get the ones with caffeine in em !
Fred Morgan
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One of the best ways to fight cancer is be ready for it. What I mean is how is your weight? How well do you eat? Do you exercise regularly? Those of us who raise livestock know that a healthy animal which has good food, moderate exercise, a good place to sleep, etc rarely is the one that gets sick.

Who knows how many cancers my healthy body has fought off. This observation is particularly true for breast cancer, according to the studies.

Perhaps the most "alternative medicine" cure for cancer is eating well, etc. Your body tends to do a great job fighting back against many things, but not if it is malnourished, and you can be overweight and malnourished.

One of the reasons that medical marijuana is pushed so much is a serious problem with chemo is loss of appetite and of course stress. Neither of which helps with recovery.


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Gail Moore


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LDN Therapy
LOW DOSE NALTREXONE THERAPY

www.lowdosenaltrexone.org

There are doctors and pharmacists who have helped thousands of people with this drug, with little side effects.

It is affordable, with or without prescription.

Do one's own due diligence. LDN Therapy has been helping with MANY illnesses, including many forms of cancers. It can be taken in conjunction with other methods and medications.

Many web forums, videos.

I will write about my own personal experiences with cancer & treatments in another posting soon. This information about LDN Therapy is most important to share for now.


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Morgan Morrigan


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thanks for that.

as was stated before, the medical community has a very poor track record with most severe medical issues.

to say that all the wacko's are just out to take your money, can easily be stated about all the hospital based programs also. Very few chemo and radiation based programs have greater than placebo rated cure rates, and are astromicaly more expensive than they could be, since almost all of the stuff they use as treatments is based on plant and body based chems and molecules.

it would seem that as much as everyone want to blame the victim for eating too much, of the wrong stuff, that the actual causes are more likely to be rampant corporatism in making food packaged and transported in cans and boxes coated with BPA , BPB, teflon, etc. etc.
All reports that track increases in diabetes and cancer, don't show any increases if folks just eat bad food, they show increases in folks that consume PACKAGED food, as they get more money.

Top input of teflon in your system? packaged microwave popcorn, almost none from pans.
Top input of BPA? Can linings, and plastics. (And canning lids too)
Napthelenes from PVC contact.
Benzene? Any packaged juice or other food that has Vit C, and uses sodium benzoate as a preservative. A guy tested every packaged drink on the shelves of a grocery, and everyone that had both, had 30-to 3000 times the legal limit of active benzene in it. This is one of the most carcinogenic materials you will come across if you are not in electronics processing or exotic alloy manufacturing.
Morgan Morrigan


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pretty sure those are 5 to 15 year survival rates, not cure rates.

cure rates , last i checked were between 5 and 15% , with lots of loss of life quality, and body parts.

spontaneous re-mission is at 2-3%, and home remedies around 1 %.
I think that includes the skin cancer treatment with bloodroot.


Last i saw was report in Science News. Was discussing science based medicine.
Great web site for it here

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/do-cell-phones-prevent-alzheimers/#more-3666'
( oops, you already posted that site)
'
The thing is they are going on about accupuncture, ayurveda, etc, but lumping in food based healthcare as wacko stuff too.
Over 40% of all medications are directly plant derived. If you look at most of the rest, they are either bacterially modified, synthesized versions of plant based meds, with an extra hydrogen globbed on somewhere, or copies of human based chemicals like interferon and insulin.

Prob only 10% are actually "made", scientifically designed for bonding sites, or modifying organ outputs. And most of those are molecular mods of previously observed , natural based mechanisms, that have been tweaked to have more effective levels of something, or just so it can be patented.

Most of the drive for the science based medicine push is supposedly funded by Pharma companies. Have not seen lists of funders tho. that could also hype.
And to allow companies to run things thru a med screening with the FDA, and then be the only licensed supplier of it.
Was it fish oil or cod liver oil, that they just did that with?
I know it is supposed to go from 5 bucks a quart , to 40 bucks an oz.
Amedean Messan
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I have reservations against www.sciencebasedmedicine.org because of a very biased article against a doctor I have seen for special treatment. There was a period where I was exploring "functional medicine" which is an emerging alternative medicine that incorporates diet and acknowledges toxicity in the body.

This is a very personal story which involves my son who at an early age of 2 way diagnosed with autism. Currently there is no treatment of autism and my wife and I were concerned and proactive parents. Instead of committing ourselves to a lifetime of medication for our son, we did research and discovered a doctor by the name of Dr. Rashid Buttar who is also a researcher in functional medicine. He offered a treatment that we were advised against by the main medical community as being too controversial. My son struggled and did not progress in at the same level compared to other children developmentally. He was not severely autistic, however non the less as a parent who cares for the well being of their children we did all we could.

When we went to Dr Buttar's clinic about the treatment I was originally skeptical but also hopeful as naturally any concerned parent would be. Dr. Buttar's treatment for autism was based on 3 approaches, detoxify heavy metals, introduce beneficial flora into the digestive system and introduce a heavy nutrient based supplement diet. This would overall reduced inflammation including in the brain which Dr Buttar theorized was the cause of autism. There are special cases for children with food allergies like gluten but my son did not have this. Either way me and my wife pursued to treat our son and we noticed dramatic results after the first month. My son was miraculously carrying a conversation, something he never done before. He did temporarily regress a little emotionally due to a "shifting" effect from the toxins but his comprehension and understanding of his environment improved dramatically. Overall, if you were to see my son now you would be in complete disbelief that he was once diagnosed with autistic spectrum disorder. He is a little ADHD but developmentally, this I imagine would be a tremendous improvement compared to the hypothetical situation if we had not pursued treatment.

This does open the window to the controversial vaccination issue where me and my wife still disagree. My wife believes without doubt that toxins in the vaccinations my son received are the sole cause. I believe that the source of toxins could have been not only from vaccinations but her poor diet at the time, or even the water we drank. I am not committed to blaming vaccinations soley but we did not vaccinate our second child because we both believe it was not worth the added risk of vaccine injury. In case you are curious, our second child is very healthy and advanced developmentally compared to other children normally in her age group. She is on a purely organic food diet and we intend to keep it this way because as we all know here in Permies, the food system is corrupt and dangerous.



I am very happy we made the right decision to see Dr. Buttar and I hope this is a concrete case for many of you curious regarding the science of nutrient based diets or rather "functional medicine" that addresses toxin theory. This is not a case for cancer, but it is a perfect example of a proven treatment not accepted in mainstream medicine. There are alternatives out there, I just want to separate the scam artists out there from the true innovators of medicine. In case you are further interested the clinic website is below.

http://www.drbuttar.com/
Morgan Morrigan


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retractions

http://www.newswise.com/articles/facts-in-scientific-drug-literature-may-not-be-study-finds'

and two new studies out on skin cancer drugs, one in britain, and one here (sidebar from above)
http://www.newswise.com/articles/researchers-discover-new-combination-of-two-previously-approved-fda-drugs-to-treat-lung-cancer-novel-combination-activates-two-key-genes-involved-in-lung-cancer
 
 
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