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Safety of planting on asphalt?

Ed Vorst


Joined: Mar 14, 2012
Posts: 6
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Hello fellow Permies. Newbie with a question here:

I will be planting a permaculture garden this Spring for the first time. I have a backyard which consists of nothing but asphalt with gravel and cement underneath. I'm wondering whether I should be tearing up the asphalt or should I simply plant over top of it. I know that the trees & plants will make short work of the asphalt but I am concerned about the toxicity of it in an organic garden.

Any and all help would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Ed. (in Winnipeg, Canada)
Andy Sprinkle


Joined: Jan 09, 2012
Posts: 46
Location: Lexington, Kentucky Zone 6
Asphalt contains lots of PAHs and othe petroleum based products/chemicals but is not inherently dangerous to vegetation nearby due to negligible leaching properties...meaning that water won't break down the asphalt and contaminate/impact soils/groundwater near them. However, why in the world would you want to grow anything on the asphalt? Unless it is high-dollar permeable asphalt the asphalt will act as an impermeable layer preventing proper drainage. Also, it will be really hard to get good biological breakdown/soil building if the soils beneath the asphalt/concrete can't interact with whatever you place above. IMO I would rent a bobcat and rip all that junk up. The soil beneath will probably need some intensive tlc because it has been isolated and depleated under the asphalt for the life of the asphalt. Find other forums on here to figure out how to rehab the soil once it is saved from asphalt/concrete. The asphalt and concrete can be recyled seperately.
Eric Thompson


Joined: Apr 23, 2011
Posts: 232
Location: Bothell, WA - USA
    
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Definitely get rid of the asphalt and build up from there -- if there were ever a time to order 40 yards of pure compost - this is probably it!
Susan Noyes


Joined: Dec 06, 2011
Posts: 50
Location: Dallas TX
I found this link
http://extension.osu.edu/news-releases/archives/2010/december/osu-urban-farming-study-whats-the-best-way-to-turn-a-parking-lot-into-a-garden
on this thread:
http://www.permies.com/t/10485/farm-income/per-acre
Ed Vorst


Joined: Mar 14, 2012
Posts: 6
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Thanks all. Especially Susan. depave.org is exactly what I was looking for.
 
 
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