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Majority?
I'd say they hate semantics too.
 
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Oh boy, that made me laugh so much I have tears in my eyes. Tears also for the poor soul who goofed!
 
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Personally, as a woman who did very well in my physics bachelor's degree (and is very good at math), I grumble at the implied stereotyping in that reference.
 
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When I read the headline, my first thought was, "that's unusually suble and ironic humour for a paper." You mean that journalist wasn't being funny? Cripes.
 
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Denise Lehtinen wrote:Personally, as a woman who did very well in my physics bachelor's degree (and is very good at math), I grumble at the implied stereotyping in that reference.


I think that is merely statistics, not stereotyping. And my daughter has a Phd in physics. It isn't saying women can't do math, it is saying they hate it. Why is perhaps another issue - perhaps cultural?
 
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But we don't ALL hate maths (but then I'm not American so maybe I should keep outta this??). I LOVE maths - one of my strong points. In fact, when it comes to doing maths things with my 3 home-educated boys my husband always says "Oh that's Mummy's specialist subject - ask her". Currently doing trigonometry with my 8 year old - he likes Pi !! The article could have just stopped short of that comma and all would have been well in woman-land.
 
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I do not do well with most math as a formula. But...I get geometry when applied to real life design. In fact I am fascinated with fractals when used as a basis for design! However...algebra I think I can usually live without. I am sure I do it all the time in my head, but to sit there and work out someone else's formulas on paper...no thanks.
 
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Paul indulges in some very arbitrary loosey goosey math. Here's an example of what he said in a thread on recycling.

" reuse is 20 times better than recycle.

reduce is 20 times better than reuse.

Therefore, reduce is 400 times better than recycle."
 
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Dale Hodgins wrote:Paul indulges in some very arbitrary loosey goosey math. Here's an example of what he said in a thread on recycling.

" reuse is 20 times better than recycle.

reduce is 20 times better than reuse.

Therefore, reduce is 400 times better than recycle."


Seems good to me - 20 x 20 was 400 last time I checked. But what would I know, being only a woman...
 
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Fred Morgan wrote:
Denise Lehtinen wrote:Personally, as a woman who did very well in my physics bachelor's degree (and is very good at math), I grumble at the implied stereotyping in that reference.


I think that is merely statistics, not stereotyping. And my daughter has a Phd in physics. It isn't saying women can't do math, it is saying they hate it. Why is perhaps another issue - perhaps cultural?


Has that daughter ever spoken to you about those people who Look at her Like she is a MARTIAN when she tells them she has done so well in physics? I had that experience sometimes when I was a physics major. It is okay to be politely surprised -- we who stray off the beaten path take some pride in that deviance. (As part of my husband's search for treatment of his Lyme disease we visited a dentist in Maryland who happened to be a black man. I could tell from his reaction to my polite surprise that he had run into many of the same experiences as I have.)

I hate generalizations. One person in a category of people is a certain way and then you deduce everyone is going to be that very same way.

If the article said, "especially many women", then I would be okay with it. It does seem to be true that disproportionately many women don't like math -- some on purpose because they don't want to be deemed unfeminine. But as it is worded, it lumps all women into a type (in my view), and I hate that.

One of the moral principles I have been developing lately is the one where everybody is an individual. Nobody gets to be locked into a predetermined stereotype of them. (If after that they show some views in common with their type, well that is okay... that is their choice.)
 
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This thread has gone seriously astray. But on a similar but different note, in the small town where I grew up the only people of non-european decent worked at the hospital or at the hydro plant.

American television gave us negative stereotypes that didn't exist for me when I was young.
 
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