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Ding Fod

Joined: Jan 02, 2012
Posts: 7
Looking ahead to spring planting starts, I would love to hear what plants are working well in MT. Specific short season variants, organic/non hybrid seed saving etc. Also, how much yield are you getting per year. Im curious how much food folks are harvesting and putting away freezing, canning drying etc.

Ive made some headway with the staples like potatoes, beans, maters, onions, and squash. Any local recommendations
ken koch

Joined: Jan 25, 2013
Posts: 14
We have been, kind of, amateur breeding lots of our seeds. The bees do most of the work. We interplant varieties some too.
(This is a nice article about horizontal breeding that I am very interested in for localized seeds. )
We did our garden last year mainly just for fresh seed for our seedbank. All the food was gravy... There was plenty to put away and give away. Almost too much to handle. Our seed bank is overflowing. Our cupboards are full'o jars. With a little work you can have fresh greens, but we take a break in the winter and eat a lot of sprouts. If you are in Missoula area, there is a nice winter market. Check out the thread in the Missoula forum at
As far as MT, we are in the bitterroot at about 3400'. we're on a south facing hill and so our ground thaws earlier than the neighbors. But then down only about 300' elevation (3 miles by road), in the river bottom, they get "spring" nearly 3 weeks earlier. So it all depends on where you are. And how well your system is set up to grow.
The farmers markets are a good way to get starts or locate local seed possibilities.
Basically here, June is safe to plant your warm crops (some of the worst ice storms ive seen were in june - july). Your nightshades and many warmcrops will likely need a good headstart indoors. Unless you have some serious thermal-mass (like a rock) and a pond or something, its going to be difficult to get nice fruit on your nightshades and peppers without some type of coldframe/indoor scenario during the early spring. We start many things in cold frames. I even cheat with warmer pads on certain things. In the fall, we cover our more vulnerable plants during frosts. If you can raise your beds atleast 2', you will get a longer season on each side, but then, 24" is a lot of work unless you are doing a small jigamaju.
(Some of these permaculture characters can supposedly grow citrus outside up here... so ive heard! )
So the season is farely short here, but with good timing, a good system and a little research, you can grow almost anything. If your soil is happy and you have some sun and water, should be good. Just watch out for the deer. If you don't have a dog or something, think about fence. (I've heard that human urine works well keepin'em at bay. Sure and fine to share the foods, but if the deer get it before there is fruit...)
I would recommend planting garlics and marigolds and clovers and companion plantings, and all such. We recommend perennials and are getting various berries and fruit/nut trees in here as fast as we can.
As far as veg goes, don't forget: rotation, rotation, rotation, etc.. If each year you improve your soil, as opposed to damaging it, you can't go wrong. (Here is a glimpse of Missoula area ideas...
What types of things are you looking for? we might have what you need. Or our neighbors might. Depends on what you need. Hope your garden went well last year! Spring will be here again soon, good luck!
Rory Rivers

Joined: Nov 14, 2012
Posts: 14
Ken, have you taken in Carol Deppe's breeding book? She is very inspiring and informational.
ken koch

Joined: Jan 25, 2013
Posts: 14
Are you referring to Breed Your Own Vegetable Varieties at I have not. I will check into it. Thanks Rory! Do you have any other suggestions?
Laura Mahoney

Joined: Jan 29, 2013
Posts: 2
I second the Carol Deppe recommendation! There's also some great (albeit more general) insight about selecting varieties for resilience in her other book, The Resilient Gardener, which is available at the Missoula Public Library.

Also, there's a seed swap coming up, where I know people will be trading their own varieties specific to Montana. Here's the listing:

Missoula Seed Swap
WHEN: Feb 15, 4 to 7 pm (NOTE NEW TIME)...
WHERE: Stensrud Event Center, 314 N 1st W.
Potluck snacks. Hosted by the Inland Northwest Permaculture Guild
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