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Some general peaves and tips regarding herbal medicine

Corin Royal Drummond

Joined: Dec 26, 2011
Posts: 18
Here are some extemporaneous tips and pet peaves regarding herbs.
* Herbs loose potency on drying, and sometimes their constituents not only degrade, but change into other things. Powdering herbs should only be done before use or extraction as the vast surface area exposed in powdering leads to rapid dissipation and degradation of the herb's constituents. If you buy dried herbs, look for ones that look and smell like something that was once alive. Brown-drab near powder with no smell is going to do nothing good for you. Such herb quality also speaks to a general poor handling, and one might be concerned with mold from improperly dried herbs. Very few herbs work well in capsules. Some herbs, like dandylion root, must be used fresh or freeze dried in order to be most effective. Fresh lobelia tincture will calm your nerves and stimulate your parasimpathetic nervous system. Dried lobelia will make you puke.
* If you want to make herbal oils and salves, don't stir them around in a double boiler. It makes the herb gods angry. Instead use the intermediary solvent extraction method which goes thusly: For every ounce of herb use 7 ounces of olive oil and 1/2 ounce of pure ethanol (95% counts as pure because if you open pure ethanol it will absorb water from the air). Grind the herb to a fine powder in a blender, taking care not to scorch. A chunk of dry ice in the blender can help with this, as can freezing the blender and herb beforehand. (Courtesy Adam Seller) Dump the powdered herb in a sealable container and moisten with 1/2 part ethanol (so if you have 3 ounces of herb, that's 1.5 oz ethanol). Leave overnight to macerate. Next day dump in blender with 7 parts olive oil and blend the hell out of it for like 15 minutes until the sides are warm but not hot. You are now done. Strain and bottle or melt with beeswax to make salve. The reason this is vastly superior to the double boiler method is because the alcohol disolves the herb overnight, and then the blades of the blender spinning the herb through the oil strips it all off. In a double boiler you're relying on heat. Here you're relying on kinetics and an intermediary solvent. Oils done this way come out green and fresh smelling as opposed to toasted smelling and olive oil colored. If your salve or oil is not the color of the plant it claims to represent, it's useless. Oh, it's also much less work than stirring a double boiler for hours.
* Never overlook weeds and common plants. They are often the best medicine. While we are all thrilled about exotics like Devil's Claw (not), who here remembers to drink their nettle tea? Weeds are wonderful because the're abundant, cheap, and easy to harvest. Using the simple medicine is always best. Incorporating herbs into your diet, is preferable to desperately resort to them once you're ill. Sure there are herbs for many dire situations, but it's not their strength. Their strength is in being entirely common, quotidian, homely, and available in quantity.
* Different herbs have different preferred methods of extraction. Tincture of Osha works great, tincture of peppermint is pointless. Osha's hard to get into tea, but peppermint infusion is lovely. When in doubt, consult Michael Moore's Materia Medica for extration methods and ratios. Southwest School of Botanical Medicine Herb Manuals
* Dose is dependent on many factors including the strength of the herb, drying method, extraction method, how old it is, etc. The common and generally safe herbs have a large range of safe dosages, so if you use too much it will probably just taste strong. Some herbs are very dose dependent like lobelia, pulsatilla, and veratrum. These sorts of herbs should be used only under supervision of someone with a clue. For topical applications, dose is dependent more on time then on concentration.
* Most herbalists are really bad. The discipline seems to attract megalomaniacs looking for easy dupes to milk for cash, people who substitute big words for critical thinking, and people who have an irrational faith in "nature" as a romantic benevolent force. Many will gladly lie to you confidently when they don't know, and will accept clients for diseases they know nothing about. Others will sexually harrass you while talking about energies. Put your bullshit meter on high sensitivity when dealing with alternative practitioners.
* All plants are psychoactive. They all affect your mind if you let them. Tell me a gardenia blossom does not change your consciousness. Tell me staring for 10 minutes at a passion flower will not get you high. Americans tend to have a consumer mindset toward plant drugs and utterly fail to benefit from them. If you're interested in cultivating an intuitive relationship with plants, start by paying attention to the plants around you. Some things are subtle. If you blast your brains with mescaline, you will not hear the quiet ways plants talk to you. If all the house lights are up, you can't see the movie. Quit chasing idiotic highs. The cultures who used drug plants ritually did not just get a bunch of friends together, say a prayer, and trip. There was strategy, and contingencies, and things to do. Do not trivialize halucinogenic cultures by presuming that what you do with drugs bears much in common with what they do.
* If you're interested in Native American culture, don't presume to speak for them, don't rip off their art, technology or beliefs and pass them off as your own, or pass your own off as theirs. Provide tangible material support. Always bring food. Listen more than you speak. Don't presume that people who disagree with you don't understand what you're saying. Remember Native Americans know much more about white culture than we know about them. Don't make Native American people into some romanticized representatives of a tranquil and harmonious past. All that hippie fake Indian shit is offensive and dangerous. Lots of Native kids grow up with a distorted understanding of their own culture because of our illusion making. Ritual is an important but small part of Native cultures. If you read Native news, they spend more time talking about land and water rights, electrification, health issues, domestic violence, and substance abuse. Remember that American herbalism and Permaculture owe Native American cultures a great debt.

Joined: Jun 10, 2011
Posts: 55
Not all herbs work on everyone.

My favorite guide. (I often look at the ingredients of some of the supplements that are also listed, since I don't have money to buy them all the time, but god damn they are high quality in ways that no other company has ever been for anything I have taken)
dennis labbe

Joined: Dec 13, 2012
Posts: 9
Re: Most herbalists are really bad.

As an Herbalist I must say I hate seeing the above words, I would say “many Herbalists are bad,” not most. Many people who practice Herbology have had no more training than information from the abundant self-help books on the market, or have taken a few weekend workshops. I would like to see a form of qualification that will weed out who is capable and who are not. We have no regulation when it comes to the healing arts, if a person signs a waiver the practitioner can do most anything to this person that they call therapy.

There was this one lady who told me she was trained in Africa by a witch doctor and by the will of God to become a healer. Her form of healing was a few herbs that could only be harvested during the full moon in Africa, also vitamins and supplements and a few bits and pieces of a rare desiccated African Parrot that was placed into a laceration on the arms. She claimed she could heal any disease and had people from all over North America willing to allow her to treat them in this manner. Needless to say many of these people ended up with blood poisoning and the treatment was but a sham. Her procedure took less than an hour and she charged her clients anywhere from 1,200.00 to 2,500.00 Cdn. I tried everything I could to put her out of business but the medical association nor the government were interested in pursuing this matter. Eventually her reputation caught up with her and she moved on to a new location. Her only true interest was the dollars she could generate.

Years ago I attended a Holistic fair to promote Herbology and one young woman approached me with a copy of the "Encyclopedia of Natural Healing", she asked me if she studied the book would she be able to practice as an Herbalist. Of course I told her no. (I had the feeling that it was exactly what she intended to do.) I reviewed this book for Alive Publications and was appalled by the fact, that all mention of Herbs or Supplements was actually a form of advertising for suppliers who paid very dearly to have their product mentioned in this book. Some of the products that they were promoting had absolutely no therapeutic value. Some of the treatments were for life threatening diseases, I suggested that they just tell their readers to see a qualified practitioner in the case of serious disease, or at least mention this to the reader.

As they say "a person who acts as his/her own doctor has a fool for a patient". This only applies to those who have little knowledge or those who have a serious disease and should get a professional involved. Yes I do see a practitioner when needed. I am all for people learning to use natural healing for simple problems.

You are responsible or your own health, make a study of the healing arts and the ones that really work. Don't be fooled into become a practitioner in a few weekends or by reading a few books. One way to evaluate an Herbalist, in general a good Herbalist will use primarily extracts and tinctures with very few powdered herbs, some fresh herbs and herbs for external applications. In my opinion there are only five major healing arts, Herbology, Homeopathy, Chiropractic, Massage Therapy and Acupuncture. Diet and exercise are of course a part of the healing and health process. Reflexology, Meditation and Rieki etc. are helpful but generally do not heal in a serious disease state, there are however exceptions.

I have run across many slick pseudo practitioners so be careful, find out more about the practitioner is he/she certified if so where did they study and how long. Ask for references, when in doubt keep looking.
J W Richardson

Joined: Aug 04, 2012
Posts: 65
Location: Council, ID
How about some tips on growing herbal medicine? Does one apply the idea that adversity makes for more active ingredients?
Shelly Randall

Joined: Jul 04, 2012
Posts: 73
Location: Central Valley California
Corin, thanks for sharing your pet peaves about herbalists because I've had similar feelings but couldn't express them as keenly. And Thank You for the generous amount of information. Kull, Thank You for the link to Dr. Dadamo's site. I've ascribed to his diet more or less through the years with good results, and I remember in one of his books, he suggests that hawthorn berry should be added to all breakfast cereals. Didn't know he was going into the herbals as I have not kept up with his journey.
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