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paul wheaton
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western WA
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April 05, 2005, 09:11:01 PM |
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I just bought jerusalem artichoke from a few different sources. Rottinger's. Gurney's. And something I found on-line, but cannot remember.
Tell us about these others - this is the first I've heard about most of them.
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j.bruce
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April 06, 2005, 01:17:48 AM |
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That's the mystery!
Perennial Lettuce: PFAF lactuca perennis {link}
Nine Star Broccoli: Seed source with picture {link}
Those are the two i'm after, mostly. The mystery is that there are apparantly 40 varieties of perennial vegetables that are growable in a temporate climate... but nobody ever lists what they are past the list of 5-6 which includes dandelion, perennial lettuce, nine star broccoli, kale, rhubarb, jerusalem artichoke, and a few random others. I would like to be able to buy seeds/tubers to plant these interesting species (especially the lettuce) but both the complete list and a good seed source for them seems not to present itself.
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York, PA, United States
USDA Plant Hardiness Zone 6 (6a-7a)
Annual Rainfall = 62"
January Temp Avg = 33
July Temp Avg = 76
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Lisa A
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April 06, 2005, 08:08:32 AM |
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I don't think this place has exactly what you're looking for, but there's
a little-known seed producer in Oregon that has some perennial grain, herb and vegetable seeds; there migth be something of interest here:
http://www.pioneer-net.com/psr/
Lisa in Ashland Oregon
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paul wheaton
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April 06, 2005, 07:07:21 PM |
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I wonder what zone those perennial grains will survive in ....
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Marilyn Queiroz
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April 06, 2005, 08:38:03 PM |
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I've heard that asparagus grows wild along the Columbia River.
I like kale. I'm surprised that you can't find seeds for it.
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Lisa A
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April 07, 2005, 12:25:23 PM |
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I started a list of the perennial vegetables. It gets hard, I think, since
you have to define what's a vegetable and what's a herb... what have I
missed?
I've certainly seen multiple online sources for the first 12 of them, if you
need hints let me know.
rhubarb
jerusalem artichoke
aspargus
artichoke
cardoon
good king henry
purslane
seakale (crambe)
dandelion
French sorrel
walking onions
daylilies
perennial sunflower - maximillian?
perennial lettuce
perennial broccoli
perennial kale
perennial chard
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SZann
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April 27, 2005, 09:43:24 AM |
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I've had success establishing jerusalem artichokes by going to the local Whole Foods, buying organic jerusalem artichokes, and simply planting the tubers.
Plant somewhat like iris tubers, just below the soil surface. I believe the Rodale Encyclopedia of Organic Gardening has some instructions. They grow about 5-6 feet tall, bear yellow sunflowers which are wonderful viewed from above, tubers can be dug anytime, but especially in fall after tops die. I thin mine out in fall, eat some of the thinned out tubers or replant. No insect or disease problems. May topple in high winds, so like corn, consider hilling up around the stems after they emerge in spring.
I'm in Zone 7a, Durham, NC.
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kc0dxh
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May 02, 2005, 09:42:00 AM |
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Daylillies are edible?!?
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Lisa A
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May 14, 2005, 08:52:24 PM |
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Daylily flowers are edible, at least the normal type of daylilies are (best
use caution with strange daylilies), so are the unopened buds though I
haven't eaten them myself. The tubers are not edible, dunno about
the leaves.
I've also planted jerusalem artichokes from the grocery store, it was
super easy. They are right when they say plant them in a permanent
place, though, I was sure I got all the tubers, but they are popping up
all over the place. Question: how do you eat them? Peeling is too
much work for me, is the skin edible?
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Anonymous
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May 30, 2005, 03:48:13 AM |
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Daylily flowers are edible, at least the normal type of daylilies are (best
use caution with strange daylilies), so are the unopened buds though I
haven't eaten them myself. The tubers are not edible, dunno about
the leaves.
I've also planted jerusalem artichokes from the grocery store, it was
super easy. They are right when they say plant them in a permanent
place, though, I was sure I got all the tubers, but they are popping up
all over the place. Question: how do you eat them? Peeling is too
much work for me, is the skin edible?
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Shultonus
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June 20, 2005, 01:37:47 PM |
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You all should check out The Land Institute in Kansas,
They are working on improving perrenial grains,
They are using Intermediate Wheatgrass (Wild Triga)
They are also crossing with domestic wheat with varied sucess.
They are working with Maximilians Sunflower.
They are working with Rosinweed for oil production.
University of Wisconsin is also separately pursuing Intermediate Wheatgrass crosses and domestication.
Univeristy of Minnesota is working with domestication of perrenial flax.
The previously mentioned 'perrenial' stock if derived from work done out of the Rodale Institute. They are all hardy to zone 3 USDA. Drought tolorant up to about 12" rain/year.
Adding to the list of 'vegetables' that are perrenial
Salad (minor) Burnet- zone 4a (possibly 3)
Chicory (Belgium endive and some leaf varities) Zone 4
This list of 40 came for an early wild edibles source,
possibly Gibbons Stalking the Wild Asparagas.
Many on this list are undomesticated edibles.
Examples: Violets (recommended), Milkweed (needs processing, not rec)
Pokeweed (needs processing, not rec), water lilies (tubers and seeds), Indian breadroot, ground cherry (tomato relative), camass (use extreme caution), soapweed yucca (flowers recommended) , stinging nettles, etc.
Many herbs are zone 5 hardy, and some 3/4
The ones I"m going to give a try. The only herbs I/ve had luck with from seed are Basil and Chives. Rosemary roots well semi-hard cutting in water
French Tarragon (listed as zone 4/5) (Minneapolis MN hardy)
Oregano (varies, but some up to zone 3)
Thyme (varies but some up to zone 4)
Majoram (varies some listed 5)
Rosemary is perrenial and overwinters on my south window (zone 8?)
Chives are zone 2
Bunching onions (one of them not sure, Japonese?) zone 3
Some interesting Bienniels
are Yellow and White Sweet clover (use as lentils)
and Burdock (looks like rhubarb first year) the roots are a Japanese delicacy (listed as gobo)
Skin is edible on Jeresulum Artichoke I just wash 'em and microwave.
If you have any questions or comments email me:
shultonus@hotmail.com
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shultonus
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June 20, 2005, 01:53:43 PM |
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Perrenial Lettuce is a weed/wild edible btw.
You'll never find it in a catalogue, it looks exactly like
prickly lettuce but it doesn't have the spines.
Beware the sap though, that stuff sucks, icky.
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mike
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September 15, 2006, 11:05:17 AM |
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Soloman's Seal is another edible perrenial. The tubers are used like potatoes.
The emerging sprouts of Cattail are edible, and I beleive the roots can be ground into flour.
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permaculture.dave
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June 12, 2007, 09:49:19 PM |
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I haven't had a chance to check it out, but I'm excited to get my hands on the new 'Perennial Vegetables' book that just came out. Check it out at: http://www.chelseagreen.com/2007/items/perennialvegetables. There is a link to the table of contents so you can see which perennial veggies are discussed.
Good luck!
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pixelphoto
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June 20, 2007, 01:03:40 PM |
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seeds of change (all organic)
johnnys select I only buy the non GM and organic from them
And Bakers heirloom
and also Peaceful Valley (all organic)
They all carry a varaiety of perrinials that you could grow in your area along with the jerusalem artichoke and others mentioned.
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dirkm
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July 31, 2007, 03:38:47 PM |
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Don't know about american hardineszone's but:
perennial chard= seabeet (Beta maritima).
potato onion is a yearly harvested onion-type wich divides its self in multible bulbs.
Apios americana, need i too say more(?).
Crosne / Stachys affinis : small"worm"like underground embranchement .
Chicorus intybus "belgium endevie" ""witloof"" is also a perennial but cultivated as a annual.
Levisticum officinalis: cellery replacer.
good source for plants: Steve Facciola's CORNUCOPIA, an american standard concerning edible plants
I live in Belgium, Europe and grow many of these plants in a temperate seaclimate.
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queenbee
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September 04, 2007, 10:12:28 PM |
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i have starts of jerusalem artichokes available. I have both the red and the white varieties.
if you are interested, they are in 1 gallon pots and i am located in olympia, wa
(360) 943-5262
You can eat the young shoots of daylilys, eat them like young leeks
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