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				<title>private practice ncis naval criminal investigative service smash criminal minds -Discount DVD</title>
				<description><![CDATA[private practice ncis naval criminal investigative service smash criminal minds -Discount DVD<br /> <br />  <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.hotdvdcollection.com/90210-Season-1-DVD-Box-Set-DVD-1555.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">season 1 90210</a>  <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.hotdvdcollection.com/Private-Practice-Season-5-DVD-Box-Set-DVD-3970.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">private practice season 5 dvd</a>  <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.hotdvdcollection.com/NCIS-Naval-Criminal-Investigative-Service-Season-9-DVD-Box-Set-DVD-4339.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">ncis naval criminal investigative service season 9 dvd</a> A translator from Gitmo dies with emeralds in his stomach. N.C.I.S investigates to find out which prisioner smuggled them in, and what he's after. <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.hotdvdcollection.com/Smash-Season-1-DVD-Box-Set-DVD-4522.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">smash season 1 dvd</a> Karen discovers a new acting opportunity while accompanying Dev to a government party. Elsewhere, things grow more complicated between Michael and Julia; Eileen teams up with Ellis; and Ivy worries about her relationship with Derek <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.hotdvdcollection.com/Criminal-Minds-Season-7-DVD-Box-Set-DVD-4550.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">criminal minds season 7 dvd</a> Karen discovers a new acting opportunity while accompanying Dev to a government party. Elsewhere, things grow more complicated between Michael and Julia; Eileen teams up with Ellis; and Ivy worries about her relationship with Derek<br /> ----------------------------<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.hotdvdcollection.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">dvd boxset</a><br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.hotdvdcollection.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">www.hotdvdcollection.com</a><br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, May 11 2012 02:04:57 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[nich mas]]></author>
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				<title>Communities!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[What are some examples of <b>self-sufficient communities</b> (whether intentional, or simply the <u>right people</u> in the <u>right place</u> at the <u>right time</u>) that have been formed within the past few decades and are succeeding? What are some that have fallen apart? Where can I read about them?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Apr 25 2012 18:43:04 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Gray Simpson]]></author>
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				<title>Wanted: Off-grid house in a ecovillage Saskatchewan</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone, <br /> <br /> My wife and I live in Regina, saskatchewan and we would like to leave the city. We are so glad that we found this forum. I am searching for ecovillage community in saskatchewan. About an hour from the city to be not too far from work. We have in mind to build or to buy an off-grid house with a good soil to have our own garden. If possible to raise some chickens. We don't want to live isolated from people but be connected with homesteading open-minded people. We are open also to live an a farm. So if you are a farmer and want to sell us a small piece of you land (about 1-3 acres) our would like to sell a off-grid house, please feel free to contact us also. We are a young couple and can offer our help here around... <br /> <br /> I never build a home of my own but I consider myself as a fast learner and a little handy when I got the chance to do some on my own. If you have ever build a off-grid house and live about an hour or so from the city. We would like to hear from you. We will need some help to build our own house and some advice too. Please contact us also. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Apr 23 2012 07:30:06 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[cindy Des]]></author>
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				<title>Ready to Join your Community in 3 weeks</title>
				<description><![CDATA[We are a family of 3. A committed couple ages 37 and 39 with a 3 year old little girl seeking a permanent community to be a part of and work hard for - We are ready to head out in 3 weeks. We are extremely serious about changing our lives and doing what is best for our daughter, including other families and individuals living together and working hard to create a sustainable environment. We need a community that is just starting or is established, but has at least one residence or temporary housing, as we only have a tent and is nearby a large enough town that can supply work. We want to live as minimal as possible. So, we need to work at least part-time to pay a financial obligation we have and are willing to contribute the remainder minus our toiletries, etc. to the community to help it grow, as long as we can also grow our own. We are carnivorous and love veges. We mainly like chicken, turkey and fish, with the occasional burger or steak. We would also like to consider a community that has facilities for people to rent at a max of $300/month for our family, plus labor hours, cooking, cleaning, building, teaching, and more. We wish to homeschool our daughter, work hard, garden, build, whatever needs to be done. We are ready, healthy and able. We are truly a loving family, love to have fun, laugh, play games, play with our daughter and truly want a community that loves to share meals together as much as possible. Thank you again, Dawn<br /> Email Address: <a class="snap_shots" href="mailto:comtngl@gmail.com">comtngl@gmail.com</a><br /> Phone: 616-312-8593]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Apr 12 2012 15:56:29 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Dawn Stevens]]></author>
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				<title>May Day</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I am planning to give a mini permaculture workshop at a protest. I have my PCD but I do not have the teacher one. Any ideas on what I should focus on. It might have to be purely theoretically, if chance/inspiration doesn’t show us something to do.	<br /> 	<br /> Anyone going who might want to help or lead?	<br /> <br /> I was trained in the desert, is there anyone in the Chicago area who would be willing to meet up with me in that timeline to talk about Midwest Permaculture. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Apr 5 2012 14:04:03 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Heathen88 McCoy]]></author>
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				<title>nonprofit org seeking permaculturalists in Iowa</title>
				<description><![CDATA[We are TerraLucent, a nonprofit organization, starting a new project on a 300 acre farm in Southern Iowa (near Centerville). We are working towards the creation of a community and education center. We are also reaching out to Native American communities to begin to work together to create a very different future. There is much more to this project as it involves community outreach and working with communities to have a truly positive and constructive impact in the world.<br /> <br /> We are seeking permaculturalists, natural builders and others who would like to get involved in the creation of this project. Food and accommodations are provided and there is an opportunity to become part of this community without any financial costs. Please take a look at our website which gives a bit more information about our project: <a class="snap_shots" href="http://terralucent.org" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://terralucent.org</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Mar 26 2012 19:29:12 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Daniel Kirkland]]></author>
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				<title>forming ecovillage seeks permaculturists</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Carolina Common Well is a forming ecovillage on 115 acres in the Triangle area of North Carolina about 15 minutes west of Chapel Hill. We just had a site survey along permaculture principles and seek to become an education center for permaculture. Our emphasis is on agriculture. We seek permaculturists to join as members to help us realize our dream. For more information visit our web site at <a class="snap_shots" href="http://carolinacommonwell.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://carolinacommonwell.org</a>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Mar 26 2012 16:19:02 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[christian stalberg]]></author>
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				<title>Cash For Your Car Norristown PA 19403 Sell Your Car King of Prussia Lansdale - Car Vision Buying Cen</title>
				<description><![CDATA["Car Vision Buying Center is a Norristown Cash For Your Car lot in PA.  Norristown Sell Your Car dealership serving King of Prussia, Lansdale car selling needs."<br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.carvisionbuyingcenter.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">car vision</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, Mar 25 2012 16:18:15 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Rubina Ask]]></author>
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				<title>Purchasing home/land/farm tenants in common</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Does anyOne here have any advice on purchasing a home on agricultural land with multiple parties?<br /> <br /> 3 people including myself are interested in getting a plot and starting a small homestead, offering excess in farmers markets and or through a csa.<br /> <br /> Thanks<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Mar 20 2012 19:10:11 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Chia Olin]]></author>
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				<title>Permaculture home in Bloomington Indiana seeks two house mates</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hello, I'm a new member and so glad to have found this site.  I have a home in Bloomington, Indiana (home of Indiana University) which I'm converting to a permaculture site. I am looking for two roommates.  I have had some interest locally but nothing that really materialized. I thought I'd try this site as I might find folks who'd be willing to relocate if it is a good fit.  Here is the craigslist ad.<br /> I would like to post this in the midwest section of the site as well, if that's OK.  If not, I assume one can be deleted easily enough.<br /> Thanks and I enjoy interacting with you folks!<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://bloomington.craigslist.org/roo/2911770980.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://bloomington.craigslist.org/roo/2911770980.html</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Mar 20 2012 01:57:39 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Jey Leorion]]></author>
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				<title>Rebuilding the San Joaquin Delta one farm and one city at a time</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Huge topic of debate... <br /> <br /> I am seeking help for projects im currently involved with and as it progresses hopefully the stacking of functions will benefit the big picture.  Must start with Zone Zero!<br /> <br /> My projects will be posted later today. I am just getting off a 13 hour work shift... whew...<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Mar 13 2012 09:11:19 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Chia Olin]]></author>
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				<title>Looking for homestead/cabin rental/worktrade in Southwest, WA</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hi There. My partner Jess and I are looking for a small cabin rental near Olympia, WA. Ultimately, we are looking to join a like minded community, but for now just want to hunker down in a small house on a farm somewhere. <br /> <br /> We are both in our thirties, mature, have steady work, etc. I have helped with small farms and went through the Evergreen farming program. We have both lived in communities and have done work trade for rent. <br /> <br /> Our ideal would be finding a community that wants to grow as much as possible for both humans and "The Others" (birds, insects, worms, coyotes, etc.) We very much want to find a balance between farm/homestead-permaculture-hunting and gathering.<br /> <br /> If you know of such a spot available let us know. <br /> <br /> Thanks, Dennis]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, Mar 9 2012 23:07:40 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Dennis Lanigan]]></author>
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				<title>Family of 3 looking for a Family Friendly Community</title>
				<description><![CDATA[We are a committed couple in Michigan with a 3 year old and have been searching for a long time to be part of a community family.  We unfortunately will still have to pay child support for 2 of my husband's daughters, who he doesn't get to see very often and will have to pay $365 a month for the next 7 years.  So, a community that is 100% income sharing is what we are hoping for or where one of us can work part time nearby to earn that portion every month and live on minimal income.  We are extremely hard working, have experience working and staying in an intentional community here in Michigan and are willing to travel anywhere in the US.  We sold everything we own, have a GMC Suburban 8 seater to share.  Will provide more information on ourselves at a later time.<br /> <br /> Thank you.  Dawn]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, Mar 4 2012 16:55:59 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Dawn Stevens]]></author>
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				<title>How can shares of communal land can be 'owned' individually?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[So, if someone has enough $ to purchase one single large parcel of land, and an intentional community then forms there, have any existing communities come up with any working systems for how individual members of the community can acquire/achieve/purchase 'land security' for themselves inside of this parcel, without actually chopping up the land's deed?<br /> <br /> Many intentional community residents are pretty transient, and even many of the long-term residents are merely 'renters' that have no actual $-equity down the road if/when they decide to leave. But what if there are folks who want to have something to show for their money, over time, so that it's not just evaporating away in rent...?<br /> <br /> I envision future communities needing to deal with this issue in a formal or semi-formal kind of way (since so much money would be involved), as more and more 'mainstream' sensibilities enter into the equation: people who want to share land and live in community, but also want 'Land Security' like they get if they buy their own property/house (where if they decide to move they have some degree of ownership to sell off and apply to their future).<br /> <br /> I know there are some communities designed around individual plots of land, all next to one another, but that scenario isn't going to work in many situations, because of zoning issues and/or the expense of legally/officially chopping up a parcel.<br /> <br /> So what kind of alternatives for 'ownership' have been designed?  (Any links to relevant articles would also be appreciated.)<br /> <br /> Thanks.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Mar 1 2012 22:51:23 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Mike Smithe]]></author>
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				<title>Forming Community in Costa RIca</title>
				<description><![CDATA[We seek our tribe to live together here on our farm in Costa Rica.<br /> Find out about us and our vision to see if it is also your vision.<br /> www.Awakening-Soul.org]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Feb 28 2012 19:46:44 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Aza Aguila]]></author>
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				<title>Are there opportunities for families with small children</title>
				<description><![CDATA[My husband and I really want to experience something different but we have small children - so would need to look at family friendly places. Do they exist?ANyone experienced this?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Feb 28 2012 14:22:11 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[bianca Green]]></author>
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				<title>Permaculture Farm - Perfect for a Community - Costa Rica</title>
				<description><![CDATA[<b>COSTA RICA! </b><br /> 4.5 hectares (12 acres) <br /> <b>Amazing Sustainable Permaculture Farm in the Southern Pacific Zone of Costa Rica </b><br /> 1500 meters elevation<br /> <br /> Diverse organic food gardens -  taro root, sweet potato, celery, tomatoes, squash, yuca, spinach, lemongrass, ginger, turmeric, arrowroot, pineapples, blackberries, many herbs, ground cherries, and much more<br /> <br /> Native and grafted fruit trees - Avocado, mango, banana, plantain, water apple, fig, cacao, papaya, oranges, lemons, and much more.<br /> <br /> Thousands of trees for timber, bamboo planted, wild orchids, <br /> <br /> Cute 4 bedroom cabin-like wooden house, plus a cozy guest cabana made from sustainably harvested local materials<br /> <br /> Multiple flat sites for new construction, <br /> <br /> 2 year-round springs with abundant pure fresh water, comfortable springtime weather all year, amazing climate for growing, <br /> 2 fenced pastures for animals, rustic chicken coop and yard, rustic animal shelter for horse or cow with concrete floor<br /> <br /> Incredible mountain veiws, <br /> virgin rainforest on 2 sides, <br />  <br /> Electric, phone & internet reception, <br /> <br /> Several small spring fed ornamental fish ponds, 2 large holes to be made into tilapia ponds, <br /> <br /> Very private yet convenient, great home for family or community, ideal setting for retreat center, <br /> <br /> Organic coffee plants for potential income. <br /> <br /> Multiple building sites. <br /> <br /> $165,000<br /> <br /> Photos here:<br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2674937428797.2114874.1117024570&type=1" target="_blank" >http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2674937428797.2114874.1117024570&type=1</a><br /> You do not need to be a resident to buy, sell, or own land in Costa Rica. <br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="mailto:1AwakeningSoul@Gmail.com">1AwakeningSoul@Gmail.com</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Feb 28 2012 09:25:22 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Aza Aguila]]></author>
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				<title>How to find permaculture or localvore minded people in a given area?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I am living in a big state capital city. I am sure there are a lot of people near me who are at least interested in conventional edible gardening, and a few who are on board with permaculture and more sustainable food-growing ideals (like being able to source our food close to our city/region). Despite 3 million people living pretty close to me, I am not offline friends with even one person who is serious about this stuff. I do know a lot of renters and people who have good reasons to not be interested in growing their own food, and honestly I am not the type to work my pet projects into every conversation so food supply chat doesn't come up too often with casual acquaintances. So, how do people find their like-minded permie neighbors? <br /> <br /> Is there a feature on permies.com to connect with nearby members? Are there other sites or communities that offer this? Meetups? I see classes adverstised sometimes but they are expensive and it seems weird to go/pay just to maybe meet someone who cares about this stuff in my neighborhood. There are some houses we drive past with pretty sophisticated gardens (rain barrel systems, raised beds, vertical space used okay, etc.) and I sometimes want to drop a note on their door to say hi, but it also seems weird, lol. One of the saddest things about urban midwestern life is how you are totally surrounded by people but there are few polite, normal ways to actually interact with them, much less find out if they are into the same esoteric gardening stuff you care about. Do you meet permies intentionally or by chance? Is it easier in the rural areas where talking farm/shop might be more natural? <br /> <br /> We also have seasonal monstrosities called "home and garden" shows, but they are these slick, estrogen-targeting materialistic circuses devoted mostly to making gals with disposable income lust after pretty stuff to show off in their yards/house (thereby making other gals jealous and pushing them to buy more pretty stuff). There are conventional master gardener people there giving good information out too, but it's advice that really doesn't gel with permaculture or trying to get by without a lot of imported inputs, etc. So there are some places to meet people into gardening, but it's not really my kinda gardening. We have a state fair too but that is overwhelmingly geared toward rural farm/4H type activity and you rarely see urban mini-farm info. <br /> <br /> I have found the best info, people, and communities online so far, but since my goal/ethos is to do more stuff locally, I'd love to know how everyone else finds their local friends (without just trying to convert everyone they know). ;)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, Feb 26 2012 18:28:08 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Kelly Rued]]></author>
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				<title>sailing the farm tribe - join our seagypsy tribe of tomorrow!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[<br /> <br /> Interested in self-sufficiency? Want to help build a community? Love the sea? Our collective, on an organic farm a few hours north of Oslo, is for anyone who wants to learn and work hard. We grow food, boats and ideas, so if you have a knowledge or interest in permaculture, farming, boat building, or sailing, come and help us create a home that is sustainable both on land AND out at sea! <br /> <br /> We are building a sailboat (the first of many), with the hope that when she sets sail (hopefully 2012/2013) we will visit other eco-villages around the world, collecting knowledge and travelling in the most eco-friendly way possible. Anyone who helps will have the chance to join our crew, a tribe of floating sea-gypsies! We also need help on the farm, as we build up the infrastructure to form a stable base for our community. This project is relatively new; we began in 2009 so there is still a lot to be done. We live with two dogs, the farm cat and some (very) free-range chickens. We keep bees and make jam; this year we harvested our first crop of potatoes and planted next seasons raspberries. Eventually we hope to grow all our food. We want to create a place that will flourish as our boats start sailing, a place where crops, thoughts, adventures, and of course boats, can grow! <br /> <br /> Want more info?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, Feb 26 2012 11:47:28 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[zeyang lin]]></author>
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				<title>community - some folks are better suited than others</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I first read this document about six years ago.   There is a LOT in here that I thing is hugely important and not something that you will find ... well .... anywhere else that I know of.<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.windward.org/windward/fine.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.windward.org/windward/fine.htm</a><br /> <br /> I think the most important parts are:  <br /> <br /> - don't expect us to meet you halfway<br /> <br /> - you're not as smart here as you are out there<br /> <br /> - not all couples are co-dependent <br /> <br /> - no illicit drugs<br /> <br /> - we have to be better off with you than without you<br /> <br /> - say what you mean and mean what you say<br /> <br /> <br /> And out of all of those, the part about the couples is the one that has popped up in my head repeatedly over the years.  Some people are sure that this is the style of life for them.  Until they get there.  <br /> <br /> for those that might read this document and think "right on!  maybe i'll move there!" I have to also say that I attempted to arrange a visit several times and was rejected because ....  apparently I am too old.  I have since visited with other folks that were also rejected or that lived there and left.  Apparently they are a poly community and .... uh ....  pretty young women have the best chance of being allowed to go there.<br /> <br /> Back to the upside:  lots of really amazing tech stuff and sustainability stuff going on there.<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, Feb 25 2012 12:52:00 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[paul wheaton]]></author>
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				<title>Do you want to be right or do you want to have friends</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I'm talking about what Paul said in his podcast Integrity and Being Alone, about someone having said to him "Do you want to be right or do you want to have friends" (Did I quote correctly, hope I did).  Now that reminded me of what Dr. Phil always says (yes I shamefully admit that I have watched the Dr. Phil Show, quite a lot...) "Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?" He claims that MOST people would rather be right and that this is one of the main reasons that so many marriages fail. In your podcast Paul you say that you suspect that most people would rather have friends than be right.  Interesting difference. I don't know who is right  ;D  but I suspect that you both are (aren't I diplomatic  ;) )  Meaning that it is necessary at least in close relationships such as marriage to give up your view sometimes to get along. One can't ALWAYS be right and have a happy marriage, one's partner has to be right too for the relationship to work.<br /> <br /> I suppose on a more general level though one will lose some friends if one does extraordinary things and sticks to them. What is interesting to me is how experts or "geniuses" rarely get along with one another. Now one would somehow expect that the geniouses can sympathise with one another's struggles and encourage each other, but I know of no examples of this.  In the following sentence I'm not talking about permaculture, because I'm too new at it to know much about the permaculture geniouses and their relationships, but about quite another area of expertise. It seems that even those experts who think practically alike in almost every way EXCEPT a few minor details can be at war with one another, each claiming that the others are a bit stupid.<br /> <br /> I think that this whole dicotomy of  right -wrong, genious -stupid, asshole-nice person is something we all should work towards getting rid of. Well we won't get rid of it completely, it's human nature to create these dicotomies and to create drama, just as Paul said. But we might want to question these dicotomies more. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Feb 23 2012 00:41:59 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Nina Jay]]></author>
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				<title>community recipes - the art of community</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I suspect that there can be dozens of types of community and for each type there can be thousands of communities - each unique with its own flavor.<br /> <br /> I suppose this is a bit like art:  there can be dozens of types of art and for each type there can be thousands of pieces of art.  <br /> <br /> It is my impression that most people that discuss community insist/demand/require that all community must follow one pattern.  Or be structured one way.  Or follow one path.   It is really difficult to discuss alternatives with these folks.   <br /> <br /> One type of community is .... online forums.   And this forum is one piece of art.  Of the thousands of other forums, this one is different.  It appeals to a very few.  It is boring to most people and utterly wrong and unacceptable to many people (like the people that have been banned, or have quit because of my "tyranny").   <br /> <br /> And, of course, there are communities of many people living under one roof, eating at one table.   Some of these communities are four or five people.  Some are more like 60.  Some are managed with consensus.  And some are managed with something else.  <br /> <br /> Some paintings are landscapes.  And some paintings are nudes.  One painting is the mona lisa.  A lot of people like that, but like the last supper better.  And some might think the birth of venus is the best.   <br /> <br /> Some people might stay at one community all of their life.  Others might move around a lot - not because things went wonky, but because they seek a life with more diversity.<br /> <br /> I felt the need to express my position that I wish for there to be many communities and many types of community.  And when somebody says there can be only one, I wish to suggest that there can be at least a thousand more.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>Hollistic off grid community</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hello there<br /> <br /> I'm looking to form a community for sustainable, off grid living. I'm looking at land in Colorado at the current stage.<br /> <br /> I want to start small and build from there so starting on an acre of land seems reasonable.<br /> <br /> Im looking for people who can bring their own structures(tents, rvs, teepee, etc.) and also people that can help with the following:<br /> <br /> Hunting<br /> Fishing<br /> Growing food<br /> Construction<br /> Renewable engery<br /> Alternative medicine<br /> Artists, musicians, and craftsman<br /> Healers, yoga, and meditation teachers<br /> <br /> <br /> Free lifestyle with a consensus government <br /> <br /> Please contact me if interested. <a class="snap_shots" href="mailto:Epok5763@yahoo.com">Epok5763@yahoo.com</a><br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Feb 20 2012 07:28:07 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Dylan Lund]]></author>
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				<title>What clothing and handbags to show in Mission impossible</title>
				<description><![CDATA[A modern film also is a fashion show. In the movie, the heroine wearing is the object that many people to follow, and become the hot sale items. For example, the colthing, shoes, pant, hats, <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.notlie.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">leather bags</a> and jewelry. Let is look at Mission impossible, What appareal women to wear in Mission impossible?<br /> <br /> "Mission Impossible" is a modern drama, but the war spy thriller and fashion chip is different, retro red lips female killer swaying from the beginning, with small PRADA dual-use leather bags that become a minority Italian luxury goods to show in the film. The black dual-use leather bags is the Galleria's new series in 2011. In addition to the material followed Saffiano leather, plus a detachable shoulder strap, and the shoulder strap length can be adjusted your appropriate length.<br /> <br /> Léa Seydoux, a very beautiful fairy, really subvert her own image in Mission Impossible. "Midnight in Paris", the slim girls is a lovely angel, she and the male actor walking in the 13th century bridge together. But in Mission Impossible, Lea Seydoux wearing a nostalgic 1960s woolen coat with Prada dual-use leather bags, walk in a secluded alley, really like killer. In real life, Léa Seydoux is more like the girl next door.She likes to wear loose clothing and retro with a canvas messenger bags.<br /> <br /> "Mission Impossible 4", actress clothing is still designed by Michael Kaplan.In India, a drama, the actress dressed in emerald green dress. A lot of people wondering why this kind of evening dress is not red? As an appearance, coupled with the wheat-colored skin should be more visible. Kaplan was a seasoned film fashion designer, he considered this scene is shot in India, and the doorman wearing a red dress, so only the emerald green dress. In addition, the actress is not the most central role, not to mention to have Tom Cruise. Fancy will be reduced to a foil. Tom Cruise wearing a tuxedo and carrying a vintage army green <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.notlie.com/canvas-bags-canvas-backpack-c-150_151.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">canvas backpack</a> with a fine leather accessories.<br /> <br /> The difference between American women and French women, reflected most vividly in this film. Ameriacan women like large Simple designed handbags and apparel to created the image of powerful independent, such as marc canvas backpack or shoulder bags. The french women like chic designed apparel and leather bags, such as Prada clothing, colonic canvas messenger bags. But think about a turn, such as "007" graceful co-star general, Actress and Bond, both good and bad scripts need, so the appearance of more stringent, can be "Mission Impossible" agents, so graceful, that Tom Cruise protection is not a country.<br /> <img src="http://www.notlie.com/bmz_cache/4/4a6f7c52a4cf4d2d3ae779fbb44e2abb.image.300x300.jpg" border="0" />]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, Feb 10 2012 08:00:31 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Jack Lee]]></author>
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				<title>Skokomish farms intentional community.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[<a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.skokomishfarms.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Skokomish Farms</a> is a newly forming intentional community. The basic premise is that you buy a 40 acre parcel from them, 5-10 is for your homesite, the other 30-35 is for the community farmers association and will be managed by an FOA which will then cultivate the land for you if you are unable/unwilling to do so. Profits from the operation will be shared. I called the place today and had a short conversation and he said the first thing they will be doing is Joel Salatin style broilers. The total land is 750 acres that was all pasture and recently purchased from the owners. It will qualify for USDA organic rating this year. They plan on doing crops that are in high local demand.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Feb 9 2012 18:57:15 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Jesus Martinez]]></author>
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				<title>     CPC     &quot;Community Permaculture Cooperative&quot;</title>
				<description><![CDATA[About 2 weeks ago I felt like I was stuck. I want to be actively working in some way with permaculture but I have no land suitable for it and I'm not sure if I can afford the expenses, whatever they might be, associated with it. I'm sure there are many, many people in the same boat as me. So  I sat down and came up with what seems like feasible answers to me. I hope this forum and others will be able to eventually create some sort of a detailed blueprint that we can all benefit from so feel free to post it and send it wherever and to whoever you wish. If someone is a web-site builder and wants to create a web page just for this concept, that would be welcomed.<br /> <br /> This is to propose a    C.P.C.   "Community Permaculture Cooperative".<br /> The idea is that together, a group of people could better afford and manage a cooperative farm that they could all benefit from. Everybody keeps their existing housing but they share the farm and the security that it provides. Farming together, but not living together. No I don't have all the details, that's why I'm posting it here.         <br />    I would like your opinions about the ideas, so please feel free to add anything you think would fit or remove anything you think doesn't belong and let me know why. Basically, I'm just curious what others think about these ideas. Seems everybody is in search of answers, so maybe we can collectively come up with some.<br /> <br /> ANSWER<br /> <br /> COPECO or CPC  (community permaculture cooperative) (small groups within a village, town or city. Everyone lives in their own existing homes and cooperatively owns the farm)<br /> A Permaculture Farm, Purchased and Setup By, Of,  and For a Cooperative of People.<br /> Everybody Helps With Everything;<br /> Buying everything needed to get started, (including the land and structures), Designing the Farm layout, Designing the Crop layout, Erecting structures, Landscaping, Planting crops, Harvesting crops, Processing the produce, (canning, cooking, drying, freezing), Eating the produce, Sharing in all decision making,<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />  Thanks for any comments.<br />  Kirk Dillon 1-7-12]]></description>
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				<title>Amount of land per person?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[So.  My family, some friends, and I have been looking into farming together.  Does anyone have any idea if we could feed 15 people PLUS actually make some money (chickens, bees, pigs, goats, produce, tilapia?)?  I'm looking for very (VERY) rough numbers, here.  Does 5 acres sound doable, or hopelessly optimistic?  We'll probably not have a mortgage, as we'll be selling houses to buy land together.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, Jan 27 2012 21:06:58 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Erin Newell]]></author>
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				<title>Creating a commune</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hello all,<br /> <br /> I apologise if this is a little off-topic but this board on the forum seemed like the place where I'm most likely to find people who will be interested in this. Basically I'm forming an intentional community, based around some political philosophy of mine. Please have a look at the article I have posted at <a class="snap_shots" href="http://communityone.ourproject.org/members_motivations#article" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://communityone.ourproject.org/members_motivations#article</a> to find out what this is all about. There is a mailing list at <a class="snap_shots" href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/communityone-talk" target="_blank" >http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/communityone-talk</a> and I would ask that you direct discussion there, as I have posted this on numerous forums where I believe people may be interested. Below is a copy of the 'article':<br /> <br /> <tt><br /> -------------<br /> Community One<br /> -------------<br /> <br /> by John Preston (gizmoguy[the number one] [@t] gmail [d0t-c0m])<br /> <br /> <br /> This document intends to explain my reasons for wanting to live in a commune, <br /> and what that commune should look like in certain respects. If you'd like to<br /> pick my brains a little more afterwards, e-mail me at the above address, <br /> replacing the square bracketed sections with the appropriate text. The working<br /> title for the commune is "Community One", and throughout the text it may be <br /> referred to by such, or by "the commune", "C1", or some other appropriate term.<br /> <br /> <br /> Why?<br /> ----<br /> <br /> My main motivation is the greedy motivation: it's what I want. I want to live in<br /> a society that isn't harmful to nature (or perhaps I should say, is less harmful<br /> to nature), I want to live in a society where I have the freedom to do what I<br /> want (within the limits of our ethics, which we will discuss later), I want to <br /> live in a society where I don't have a care in the world, and where I can live<br /> each day as I wish, I want to live in a world free from higher government, <br /> capitalism, and injustice, I want to live out my days with some close friends. <br /> Moving to a commune is a great way to achieve these goals with maximum success.<br /> <br /> Another reason, which is much more important, is for the Book. The Book will be<br /> the total collection of all of the knowledge we (used throughout the rest of the<br /> article to refer to the future population of the commune) will have used to <br /> build C1. This may not seem too critical, but when you learn a bit more about <br /> what the commune will be like, you'll see why this mammoth task matters so much.<br /> In short, (I believe that) no other commune like this has been built, and as a <br /> key part of my philosophy I see providing this knowledge in the form of the Book<br /> as potentially revolutionary.<br /> <br /> If you're someone interested in living in such a society with me, I will likely<br /> find your reasons for why irrelevant. That's not to say I am not interested, but<br /> rather that it will probably have no bearing on our shared life together; it's <br /> not about any one's why, it's about our what.<br /> <br /> <br /> My philosophy<br /> -------------<br /> <br /> As someone interested in politics and ethics, I find myself thinking about them<br /> a lot. My eventual move to the commune is merely a practical extension of my <br /> thought. Surely one should judge a philosopher by what he does, not what he says<br /> or thinks and then subsequently fails to do.<br /> <br /> There are a number of approaches to various problems I have pondered which have <br /> led me to my conclusions, but I'll start off with what I believe to be the <br /> easiest and strongest argument. I believe that legitimate action must come from <br /> an agreement beforehand between all parties affected by said action, and that <br /> all other forms of action are illegitimate. Two people should be able to fight <br /> to the death if they've both consented to it. Obviously, it can start getting <br /> more complex when you introduce other factors such as one's "state of mind", <br /> (and one can argue about the effects on their friends and family when someone <br /> dies, etc. It's not the best example I've ever made) but that's the core idea: <br /> consent, agreement, tolerance. From this, we quickly arrive at the conclusion <br /> that if one can move to live in a forest in an independent way that doesn't <br /> affect the rest of society, then one should be able to do so. This is what I'm <br /> doing with the commune, creating a fork of society that will exist <br /> independently, and that will hopefully co-exist with the current one (by which <br /> I mean the 'society at large' that you are likely in as you read this).<br /> <br /> <br /> What?<br /> -----<br /> <br /> And so we arrive at the one unshakeable tenant, the core philosophy of the <br /> commune: complete independence. Now you can see why the Book is so important; <br /> such a task has not been documented before, and if it is documented then other <br /> people can read that documentation and make their own communes with ease. People<br /> will then have the ability to live as they want much more easily in their grasp.<br /> <br /> <br /> My philosophy (cont. I)<br /> -----------------------<br /> <br /> I hypothesise that dissemination of the content within the Book will help to <br /> lead us to a new stage of social evolution. If new societies can be created, <br /> then we will see the rapid (compared to history so far) prototyping of social <br /> structures on a wide variety of scales. Want to live in a communist monarchy? No<br /> problem, just leave me alone. Want to see if capitalism works effectively with <br /> only a handful of people? Sure thing. By enabling 'society at large' to fracture<br /> in this way, we not only give the individual the power to live as he wants, but <br /> we also get more data about more 'radical' social structures, characteristics, <br /> and policies, and we create stronger feedback between societies and their <br /> inhabitants, which I foresee leading to a politics that better fits human <br /> nature, and that is more flexible to change over time. Not to mention the <br /> positive ecological effects of lower-tech, lower-population, distributed living <br /> (assuming such new societies follow our environmental ethos to some degree).<br /> <br /> All of that, of course, hangs on writing the Book and getting it out there, <br /> which is why I see the creation of the commune as something so important.<br /> <br /> <br /> What? (cont. I)<br /> ---------------<br /> <br /> As of writing (2012-01-18) I am the only 'resident' of C1, and so the entire <br /> vision for how it will look is mine. Naturally, I'm open to input from the rest<br /> of the populace, it's just that there isn't any one else yet. As I said before,<br /> I want to live out my days with my friends, so what I hope is that I can find <br /> other people who agree with my arguments, or just want to live in a similar way,<br /> and we can become friends and end up living together in a way similar to the one<br /> I envision.<br /> <br /> There are some things I feel strongly about, but I am willing to give way to <br /> reason in all parts of my life. The reason I often feel strongly about these <br /> things is because I believe them to be well-reasoned! That said, logic is my <br /> guide, and I would very much like to live with other people of a similar vein, <br /> perhaps causing C1 to become a "city of philosophers".<br /> <br /> The first key principle is the Principle of Complete Independence, as already<br /> discussed. This means we must have security in food, water, shelter, everything <br /> we will ever need. This also means that we must be able to replace everything we<br /> use in the construction of the commune. Complete Independence means not only the<br /> ability to be self-sufficient, but the ability to remain completely separate <br /> from any community for as long as desired, and for new communities to have the <br /> ability to form from ours, as is the purpose of the Book. If we can build a <br /> community using only tools that we ourselves can make, then we have created a <br /> complete split from our current society, not just for us but for the future <br /> generations of societies that may eventually arise.<br /> <br /> The second principle I hold dear is the Principle of Minimal Environmental <br /> Impact. Whatever we do will likely have some detrimental effect on the rest of <br /> nature, and I believe that such effects should be minimised, for the sake of all<br /> life on the planet. This also ties in with preventing unwanted interaction <br /> between separate societies, as the biosphere affects everyone, and so any damage<br /> to it will probably indirectly affect someone in an unwanted way, and that's <br /> just from a purely anthropocentric perspective. This principle means things like<br /> permaculture gardening, compressed earth construction, complete composting, etc.<br /> <br /> The third principle is the Principle of Consensus. We all live together, and as <br /> a small community I believe consensus decision making will work to provide the <br /> best form of government. This doesn't have to follow any strict rules, and there<br /> doesn't have to be any strict adherence to my theory of consent or any other <br /> ethical, political, or social paradigm. However, I think we should all listen to<br /> each other, and try to come to agreements on matters in the commune. As a small <br /> society, we need small government, and we should respect everyone's thoughts and<br /> opinions.<br /> <br /> <br /> When?<br /> -----<br /> <br /> Forming a new society with these goals is a difficult task, and I foresee that <br /> this will take many years. As more people read this (and similar) documents, <br /> some will become interested in these ideas and in C1, if they do not start <br /> forming their own communities. After a network of us has been established and a<br /> definite population has been found, the next stage is the learning and mastery <br /> of all of the skills we will needs to survive. Years of research will have to be<br /> done, and many experiments will have to be conducted. We will have to be able to<br /> build houses, to make pots, to grow crops. Over time, as learning continues, our<br /> communication will result in the formation of friendships, and by the time we <br /> will have mastered the necessary disciplines for the formation of the commune, <br /> we will know each other well, and we will know who we do want to live with. As <br /> such, the educational stage can take place as an open affair not specific to C1,<br /> but as a global collaboration by interested individuals. This knowledge will <br /> form the basis for a preliminary copy of the Book. Soon after we feel we are <br /> ready, we will move out to form C1, where we can live in the reality of our own<br /> construction. Here, we will finish the Book, and this will be delivered into <br /> the larger society we will have left for dissemination.<br /> <br /> <br /> --<br /> Thank you for your time.<br /> <br /> John Preston<br /> </tt>]]></description>
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				<title>Small community looking for intentional neighbors!!!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[My partner and I and 2 other couples are looking for opportunities to pursue like finding land to share creatively. We are currently renting 26 acres in Indiana to practice sustainable lifestyles and learn form mentors here. It has been great and extremely productive but we are looking to settle somewhere and be rooted. We are looking to remove ourselves from the enslaving systems in America and find creative ways to counter them. We are all passionately pursuing sustainable practices such as self relient communities of people because we realize that even with 6 people we can not be TOTALLY sustainable with out help from others. We hope to find land, build houses out of cob and such, create our own energy and supply our daily consumed resources. There are some obstacles though, most of us have student loans... So basically we are looking for someone who owns alot of land and would like to share with us and be shared with! There are alot of options others have tried to accomplish this. We could do a rent to own on little parcels of land or create a LLC or a 501 C3 or any idea anyone might have! We are looking to move to Arkansas, Tennesse, Kentucky or Missouri area and would love hear about any opportunities anyone knows about for this area! Or any questions in general so please post or PM me if you are looking for something similar or know someone who is!<br /> <br /> Thanks <br /> <br /> Randall<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[randall gabriel]]></author>
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				<title>eco village in europe?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[hi<br /> im looking for an eco village in europe. anyone heard of any?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, Jan 14 2012 08:13:33 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[lihi avishai]]></author>
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				<title>Sustainable Living Internship Program</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Join us for the 2012 growing season in our Sustainable Living Internship Program . Earn 2 Antioch University credits while learning wilderness homesteading, land stewardship, growing abundant  organic food, community living, earth ethics, herbal medicine making, seed saving, food preservation, environmental activism, and expressing your passion for living sustainably. <br /> Trillium Farm is a residential eco-village, a cultural, spiritual and educational retreat center, a grassroots conservation organization, and a wilderness based university accredited campus located on 82 acres on the gorgeous Little Applegate River in the Siskiyou Mountains of SW Oregon. The beauty and magic of Trillium Farm is known through out the region for its breath-taking ridge-top views, lush greenery of the south facing meadows, its pure watershed bringing gravity-fed water from the mountains to the farm filling year-round and seasonal ponds, and nearly one mile of Little Applegate River frontage. The main house is the oldest standing cabin in the valley and has hosted visitors from around the world. Throughout Trillium's long tenure as a retreat and education center (also known as Birch Creek Arts & Ecology Center), Trillium has offered programs in community, sustainable living practices, environmental activism, natural history and the fine and healing arts. Trillium is surrounded by thousands of acres in a proposed wilderness, offering spectacular hiking and biking trails as well off-trail adventures. For application and information call (541) 899-1696 or email <a class="snap_shots" href="mailto:trillium@deepwild.org">trillium@deepwild.org</a>   <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.deepwild.org/bcaec/internships2012.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.deepwild.org/bcaec/internships2012.htm</a> <br /> Please look at our website www.deepwild.org and find application under Internships in Birch Creek Arts & Ecology section. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Jan 10 2012 19:15:28 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Mike Mapmaker]]></author>
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				<title>Myth of self sufficency</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Have to agree with that, but have you seen where we can go ?<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://opensourceecology.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://opensourceecology.org/</a><br /> <br /> With 3D printing, especially Direct Laser Sintering, and maybe a 5 axis CNC lathe, can make most of your mechanical parts.<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.disn.co.jp/gallery.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.disn.co.jp/gallery.html</a><br /> <br /> If you could figure out a home built plastic recycling system with powders for a RepRap, and simple sheet maker for sheeting and windows, you would be even closer.<br /> <br /> How much electronics do you really want/need in a low tech environment ?<br /> <br /> Even meds are possible - with fungi.<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-06/ps-mmm062207.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-06/ps-mmm062207.php</a><br /> <br /> Just saying, there are still ways to produce surpluses for trade and to help keep a village going.<br /> <br /> <br /> Got another group working on asteroid mining, and know exactlly how dependent people have to be, but working from that end, and figuring out how to make plastic, parts, air, and fuel, let alone food, is just as amusing.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Jan 10 2012 16:13:45 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Morgan Morrigan]]></author>
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				<title>legal structure assistance</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Does anyone have infromation on where to get good legal help to transition the ownership of land from personal/corporate to community?  There are many ways people can give land to various land trusts, but what if the community holding entity does not want to dictate all the activity going on with the land but does want to provide for the long term holding of a community shared resource?  Any suggestions would be welcome for the work we are doing in SW WI to transition the 117 acre farm to a community shared resource.  email Mark  <a class="snap_shots" href="mailto:mkh@mwt.net">mkh@mwt.net</a>   or repost here.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Jan 4 2012 12:24:42 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Mark Heffernan]]></author>
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				<title>The End of Growth</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I just finished reading "The End of Growth" by Richard Heinberg and I was pleased. It wasn't very expensive for my Kindle (about eight dollars) and was very well done in talking about the consequences of limited resources.<br /> <br /> One thing I particularly liked was his discussion on the categorizing of countries. Developed, developing, under developed. Seems there is another category that should be used, overdeveloped. That would be a situation where continued inputs which are finite are required to sustain the country. <br /> <br /> If anyone has read it yet, or wishes to discuss it, I thought it might be useful in discussing intentional communities, etc.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, Dec 25 2011 05:15:29 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Fred Morgan]]></author>
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				<title>Pattern Languages: Using the Toroid and the Double Helix for Self-Reflection and Expansion</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I wrote this post on a blog called Community Cultivators. <br /> In short you can use the pattern of the Toroid and the Double Helix to evaluate and reflect on individual, organizational, and communal structures to ensure a Holistic Goal and Holistic Management are being thoroughly practiced. <br /> <br /> The model is used to ensure that feedback mechanisms are present and that the potential for leverage and expansion should be expected when working in unison with one's true purpose.<br /> <br /> You can read further here and I hope it aides people to view practices in a pattern fashion. <br /> Please comment. Always open to critiques and criticism.<br /> <br /> Community Cultivators<br /> Pattern Languages: Using the Toroid and the Double Helix for Self-Reflection and Expansion<br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://mindbodysoil.blogspot.com/2011/12/pattern-languages-using-toroid-and.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://mindbodysoil.blogspot.com/2011/12/pattern-languages-using-toroid-and.html</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, Dec 24 2011 11:44:46 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Chowgene Koay]]></author>
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				<title>Real world models of functioning city farms</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hey everyone,<br /> <br /> I have been a part of a community farm here in Berkeley, CA for the past 5 years and it is by far the best functioning example I have seen, but I still see the ways it doesn't work very well and the areas where it can improve.  We are completely volunteer run which in and of itself creates countless issues. People come into the farm with good intentions and plenty of energy, but don't really know what they are doing, they harvest things way too early, till where they don't need to till, pull what they think are weeds when they are really a cover crop, etc.  This is a problem because we don't have "staff" to manage them while they are working.  There are only two of us who are full time and we also run a full nursery on site that we use to make money to pay the bills and because it is nice to sell plants that people can grow themselves.  We have always had an issue with the distribution of the things we grow as well.  Scheduling a workforce to harvest what we have grown at the right time and getting that food to those that are in need is a big challenge and one that seldom goes off without a hitch.  We end up having to harvest in the middle of the day when greens wilt as soon as they are picked and/or plants stay in the ground to long and they go to seed making them bitter and tough.<br /> <br /> Now that you know a little about what I do I will get to my question.  Are there any truly functioning examples of urban farms out there?  If anyone has projects that they are a part of I would love to share pictures, stories, ideas, and solutions to problems with you.  I really see the need to get together with others doing similar work to iron out the issues we are having so that we can really make things like this work because we all know that our cities need some help.<br /> <br /> I will get around to uploading some pics after the holidays to show a better idea of what we are all about. Cheers<br /> <br /> -EricTheRed-]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, Dec 23 2011 13:43:36 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Eric The Red]]></author>
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				<title>Project Management applied to community kitchen</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I read the recent Scott Adams post <a class="snap_shots" href="http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/eating_is_broken/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">"Eating is Broken"</a> where he suggests that an intentional community cooking, dining, cleaning, food buying would be real slick if we just applied the practice of project management and some computer automation to the problem.<br /> <br /> When I read the post, I thought about Paul's <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.permies.com/t/6444/intentional-community-city-repair-ecovillage/community-food-provided-meals-received" target="_new" > 540 meals story </a><br /> <br /> The author is known for writing about half-baked ideas, often just for the entertainment value.  I'm wondering if this idea might be useful though.  <br /> <br /> Would the results of Paul's 540 meals experience been 'more fair' if it was managed ala Project Management style?   Would anyone have participated?  Would it introduce a whole new set of problems?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Dec 15 2011 16:08:20 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Brian Gallimore]]></author>
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				<title>The Story of Stuff</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Cool video, The Story of Stuff, Annie Leonard discusses the Consumption Model, the various effects of consumption, and how the model came about in the 50s:  <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GorqroigqM&feature=channel_page" target="_blank" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GorqroigqM&feature=channel_page</a><br /> <br /> A pdf of the script, complete with cites, can be found here: <a class="snap_shots" href="http://dev.storyofstuff.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/annie_leonard_footnoted_script.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://dev.storyofstuff.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/annie_leonard_footnoted_script.pdf</a><br /> <br /> A pdf of Victor Lebow's 1955 "The Journal of Retailing" can be found here: <a class="snap_shots" href="http://classroom.sdmesa.edu/pjacoby/journal-of-retailing.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://classroom.sdmesa.edu/pjacoby/journal-of-retailing.pdf</a>.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Dec 5 2011 17:21:22 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Sandra Ellane]]></author>
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				<title>Walking the walk</title>
				<description><![CDATA[These guys are trying to make a rugged, swap-out, repairable community, with 3-D printers !<br /> <br /> check em out, and go help if you can.<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Crash_course_on_OSE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Crash_course_on_OSE</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, Nov 19 2011 14:08:29 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Morgan Morrigan]]></author>
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				<title>Community/Problems/</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Dear lovely people,<br /> I am thinking about joining an intentional community and was wondering if anyone of you ever made any bad experiences?<br /> What do I need to be careful with?<br /> Which problems could occur?<br /> Checking different websites, all the communities sound lovely but is there a hook to them?<br /> Or is it as peaceful what it is described as?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, Nov 11 2011 03:22:15 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[doreen Hatfield]]></author>
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				<title>Intentional Community in NSW Australia</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hi, we are an intentional community with a focus on permaculture and alternative energy, we are currently looking for people to join us and are offering affordable 20 acre shares (with finance) to like minded people. We are currently trying to acquire two large properties and invite you to visit our website to find out more.<br /> <br /> eden-land-movement.com]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Nov 3 2011 19:45:43 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Eden Land Movement]]></author>
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				<title>Black Soils</title>
				<description><![CDATA[The black soil topic came up over in the perma-culture forum, so thought would bring over here since it is more of a community question.<br /> <br /> Amazon basin is kinda famous for it&#039;s black soils. They dig it out of benches up on the sides of river banks, and is still super productive. Supposedly is in the planters at the Intl airport, and has become quite the bootleg item there.<br /> <br /> It is very distinctive because of the charcoal content, and the pottery shards.<br /> <br /> Is very hot debate about whether it is natural, a byproduct of garbage burn piles, or a intentional product.<br /> <br /> The scale is tipping outside the Americas, (they are already convinced down there) that it IS a sanitation and farming project, because of some distinctive signatures of the soils.<br /> <br /> Soils in rainforests are pretty barren because, well, it&#039;s a rainforest. Everything breaks down quickly, and nutrients are washed out pretty quick too. Natural depressions that collect forest duff, tend to get explosive growth from opportunistic plants, and then get shaded out, becoming mono or multistory pretty quickly too.<br /> <br /> The folks that think is periodic flooding debris, or garbage burn piles, tend to say that 7-8k years ago, no one was doing agriculture, let alone civic sanitation. <br /> <br /> This is not quite true, china was doing it at least 4k years ago. There is a great article written up about the &quot;nightsoil boats&quot;, and a thriving economy built around it. Seems these guys would go around and distribute large pots (kinda like their vinegar pots) for free, then come around a couple times a week to collect the deposits, and give the folks a few cents for the trouble of using their service. These guys would then truk the carts down to the river, and load up boats of the pots, or fill larger onboard tanks. These boats would then haul the contents back out to the distributed farms, to the happy farmers, who would happily give a buck for the high quality fertilizer. Salaries would be distributed back up the tract, and everyone was happy. Then, of course the governments tried to take it over, and, well, you know how that went.<br /> <br /> <br /> The distinctive thing about the Amazonian soils is that they appear to be &quot;made&quot;. <br /> The charcoal isn&#039;t from bonfires, but is actually bio-char - or activated charcoal. This has to be &quot;made&quot;, it is fairly rare to find in nature, as the wood must be smootherd, or buried.<br /> <br /> Another is the appearance, in ALL the places i have heard of, is the pottery shards.<br /> To us desert dwellers, when we think of pottery shards, we imagine little triangle pieces, some displaying designs, and most being on the order of 1/2 to 1 1/2 inches on a side.<br /> The ones down there are commonly called sherds, and are on the order of 1/16 to 1/4 in on a side. The folks argue that this is actually the result of smashing the pottery with poles, to pulverize it down to a size that is good for drainage and transport.<br /> <br /> One thing they point too to bolster their argument is that the slash and burn technique down there, in contrast to other places, is the fact that after they go thru and cut and clear an area, they pile up the slash with the driest pieces on the ground, then haul in the newer stuff, actually smothering the fire down to make - you guessed it- biochar. They tend to feed these piles for up to a week or so, dragging in the green stuff to keep it smouldering, rather that starting new burn piles to burn it up.<br /> <br /> The advocates theory that this was an active process is also that the soils in these &quot;plots&quot; is actually mixed, from a depth of a 1/2 meter, down to 3 meters! That these plots show sherds throughout the depth, and that it is activated charcoal, not the regular kind, the theory is further strengthened by the fact that not a single one of these plots has been found with layers. Any standard burn pile by indigenous pops show distinctive layers, whether it is shellfish, or yucca fibers and roots.<br /> <br /> The theory now states that these guys would build up a latrine area of pots in a low lying area, that had lots of understory brush (the forest taking back over) and when they didn&#039;t want to fight it anymore, they would hack and slash, piling up the burn over the pots. Then everyone would pack up, they would wait for the dry season, light the forest, and high tail it out of there. Then they would rotate out to an earlier abandoned site, plant the old black soil areas, and break down the burnt over pots from (4-5?) years earlier, mix it with the charcoal, and pile it up to a height that equaled the tops of the new jars. Start stacking the newly filled jars next to each other, and farm till it was time to move again. Flies too bad, or the jungle taking over again.<br /> <br /> Repeat. <br /> <br /> cant find the link for the chinese story.<br /> <br /> here is some background on the americas<br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.ancientweb.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ancientweb.org/</a><br /> <br /> and a site at yahoo groups has lots of backstory on the black soils. think it was called ACS by the folks in the game.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Oct 19 2011 18:40:13 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Morgan Morrigan]]></author>
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				<title>Permaculture a piece of wildernis, SLO,Cal</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Do you also<font color='Green'> :-) :-)</font> love to build, grow, transform, play, create in a permaculture way in the wilderness with a few other mature , loving persons on a beautiful spot ?<br /> email or call 805-624-5701 Apolonia,Licensed Acupuncturist<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Oct 17 2011 11:47:44 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Apolonia Paulusse]]></author>
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				<title>Saskatchewan Ecovillage or Land Share</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve talked about my ideas and goals for an Ecovillage or Land Share Arrangement elsewhere, but realized I hadn&#039;t made my own thread on this topic in this section.<br /> <br /> I&#039;d like to join or develop a quiet, natural, rural place with others of similar mind.&nbsp; Probably in Saskatchewan and probably within about 100 miles of Prince Albert or Saskatoon.&nbsp; I keep my mind open to other locations, but this is my current thought.<br /> <br /> I like organics, permaculture, alternative building, home power, off grid living, etc. I like to live near people who are into such things, and who are also cooperative and positive. There must be tolerance for the differences in others, such as difference in spiritual beliefs.<br /> <br /> I&#039;ll cut it short for now and maybe expand on that later.&nbsp; Post a message here, if interested.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Oct 13 2011 15:11:16 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[peter mukunda]]></author>
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				<title>trying to save my farm</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hi there. I have a tiny farm (2 ac) in West Virginia. I&#039;ve been on the edge of foreclosure for a year — the usual reasons, lack of work, etc.<br /> <br /> I&#039;ve investigated intentional communities and that&#039;s my long-term plan, but until and if I&#039;m put out on the street, I want to keep this going.<br /> <br /> I have two rooms I can rent out in my house, great land to grow on, high tensile and board fencing for goats/sheep, and the land is UNRESTRICTED. I&#039;d like to have bees, sheep, a cow, whatever.<br /> <br /> The house is wood heated and has a lot of charm; the setting is beautiful. Is anyone here interested in a shared housing situation? I&#039;m attaching a flyer I&#039;m using to try to sell the house, but I&#039;ll tell you, selling is not my real goal. I want to stay here. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Oct 11 2011 11:42:18 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ellen kardl]]></author>
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				<title>East Texas Community Homestead looking for you !</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Looking for people that are in to the homesteading livestyle , learning and teaching , building a homestead that supplys are own jobs , food and safety . to learn more go to www.sabinehomestead.org and read through it as well as the blog with more photos and updates , to get there just push the links button at the bottom of the web site page , then the blog button . Thanks and Have a Grate Day <br />  <br /> lots for sale from $500. to 2,000. and up to $40,000. if you wish to be on Toledo Bend Lake front . There is 2 Boat ramp and a 9 hole golf course , paved roads , water and power to lots . <br /> <br />  Not all of us can aford in this aconimy , to by a big pease of land to build are homestead on , but we could buy a lot or 2 , next to a homestead that i could help out at and have freash vegys , eggs and dairy produces , as well as one day a paying job . Envesters are welcomed too . Thank You ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, Oct 9 2011 04:46:48 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Sabine Homestead]]></author>
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				<title>&amp;quot;Big Sky Country - Montana Now and in The Long Emergency&amp;quot;</title>
				<description><![CDATA[For those of you who are interested:<br /> <br /> James Howard Kunstler&#039;s latest podcast is about Missoula, Montana, the Rocky Mountains, and a few other things as well.<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://kunstlercast.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://kunstlercast.com/</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Oct 6 2011 03:50:39 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Michael Radelut]]></author>
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				<title>afternoon course on Pleasurable Communal Living 10/9, Oakland, CA</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Introduction to Pleasurable Group Living, October 9, 3 - 5 pm, $40 <br /> <br /> In our society, living as an independent family unit is becoming increasingly difficult for social and economic reasons. Isolation and loneliness are also growing problems. We believe that group living is a potential solution to these issues. And besides, it&#039;s fun!<br /> <br /> In &quot;Introduction to Pleasurable Group Living&quot; we will address topics of interest to the students. These may include such topics such as how to ensure fair treatment of everyone in the group, create affordable housing, provide better child and elder care, reduce expenses and create more security.<br /> <br /> The course is held at the <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.OaklandMorehouse.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Oakland Morehouse</a>, an intentional community established in 1968 near Lake Merritt. It is taught by senior members of the   <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.LafayetteMorehouse.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Lafayette Morehouse</a> community.  Lafayette Morehouse is a 42+ year old intentional community. You can register online or at the door. Questions? <a class="snap_shots" href="mailto:registrar@lafayettemorehouse.com">registrar@lafayettemorehouse.com</a> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Oct 5 2011 18:13:29 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[George Alchemy]]></author>
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				<title>Paradise in Argentina!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[<b>We are looking for 5 to 10 families who would like to invest in a property of 298.1 acres (117 hectares), a small paradise in San Luis province, Argentina with a small river that travels 1.25 miles through it and various small water springs with quality drinkable water.  We would like to form a small community of earthly, conscious persons and families who would like to protect this place and help us develop permaculture projects.  For more information please email</b> <b><u><i>cameron.emily.rose@gmail.com</i></u></b>]]></description>
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				<title>Sustainable Living &amp;amp; Permaculture Apprenticeship at True Nature Farm</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hi folks,<br /> <br /> Glad to let you know that True Nature Farm is now offering a 6-month immersion program in Sustainable Living, Permaculture Design, Wilderness self-reliance &amp; Community living! Yes, we&#039;re excited about this program SO MUCH!<br /> <br /> see details below or go to: <br />  <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.truenaturefarm.org/sustainable-living-apprenticeship2.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.truenaturefarm.org/sustainable-living-apprenticeship2.html</a> <br /> <br /> <b>Sustainable Living Apprenticeship&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br /> 6-month hands-on immersion program<br /> April 1 - September 30, 2012</b><br /> <br /> Join us on for an entire season of learning hands-on sustainable living skills! <br /> True Nature Farm’s Apprenticeship is a unique program designed to create a hands-on wholistic experience of sustainable living, weaving together primitive, traditional and modern skills. <br /> <br /> Participants spend 6 months camping on the land, living close to the elements, immersed in the natural world and working closely with it.&nbsp; <br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Some of the Topics covered in the Apprenticeship:</b><br /> <br /> <b>☼&nbsp; Permaculture - From Design to Practice:</b> <br /> Learn the theory, ethics &amp; principals of Permaculture and then apply them on a farm-wide scale. We will be learning and implementing the various concepts of Permaculture, including Personal Sustainability, Natural Building, Farming, and Land Stewardship.<br /> *The Apprenticeship includes a 14-day Permaculture Design Certification Course. ( <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.truenaturefarm.org/permaculture-design-certification.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.truenaturefarm.org/permaculture-design-certification.html</a> )<br /> <br /> <b>☼&nbsp; Natural Farming &amp; Organic Gardening: Sustainable food production systems - </b><br /> design, construction, tending &amp; harvesting (Food Forest, Kitchen Garden, Grain Fields, Animal Husbandry, Rainwater Harvesting, Composting systems and more). <br /> Be a part of the entire process - from seed-planting to seed-saving. <br /> <br /> <b>☼ Traditional Living skills: Primitive Technology, Wilderness Survival, Homesteading, and other Simple-Living skills. </b><br /> While we live in a modern world, there is much we can learn from the past thousands of years of human experience. By using viable practices, appropriate technologies and simple, natural solutions that have proved to be sustainable for millennia, we can bring about the balance between the old and new, the traditional and modern. <br /> <br /> <b>☼&nbsp; Natural Building: Design, Techniques, &amp; Hands-On Practice. </b><br /> Participants will be learning the basics of working with <br /> wood, cob, straw-clay and other natural materials, taking on natural building projects and seeing them through from design to completion.<br /> <br /> <b>☼&nbsp; Personal Sustainability:</b> <br /> Be the change you want to see in the world!<br /> Conscious Community Living, Group Council, Nature Awareness, Dream-Tracking, and more…<br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Location:</b><br /> Our farm is located near Boulder, Utah, surrounded by nearly four-million<br /> acres of pristine wilderness (and a few other farms). This little town<br /> (population 200) is the home of ranchers, farmers, artists, and nature<br /> enthusiasts who were drawn to this remote area by the beauty and serenity of<br /> the pristine wilderness. <br /> We are surrounded by breath-taking and diverse landscapes. From<br /> the green lush forests of Boulder Mountain to the Slickrock slot canyons of the<br /> arid desert, it is all within a walking (or horseback riding) distance. <br /> We are close to some of the most beautiful National Parks in the world,<br /> including&nbsp; Bryce&nbsp; Canyon&nbsp; National&nbsp; Park,&nbsp; Zion&nbsp; National&nbsp; Park and&nbsp; &nbsp; Capitol&nbsp; Reef National Park.<br /> Our home playground is Dixie National&nbsp; Forest and&nbsp; &nbsp; Grand&nbsp; Staircase&nbsp; -&nbsp; Escalante National&nbsp; Monument.<br /> The farm is off the grid (solar powered), and currently has a straw-bale home,<br /> a yurt, barn, a few wall tents and corrals. It is located on 100 acres of<br /> pastures, oak grove and pinion-juniper forest, with 2 running stream (one of<br /> them year-round) and bordering the Dixie national forest. The nearest town,Boulder, is about 15 minutes away and has coffee shops / restaurants, live<br /> music venues and a lively community.<br /> <br /> TO FIND OUT MORE GO TO:<br />  <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.truenaturefarm.org/apprentice.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.truenaturefarm.org/apprentice.html</a> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Oct 3 2011 22:09:07 MDT]]></pubDate>
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				<title>Future urban farm</title>
				<description><![CDATA[This is a property that I just purchaced because the city wanted to demo it. It is one of the most unique houses inside and out I have ever seen and just had to save it. I love the idea of saving the urban core of towns and cities and the area we are in needs more people like us on this forum. This house sits on a nice lot and is south facing, it has a wood shop in the back yard that I feel is perfect for a chicken coop and rabbit operation. There is plenty of room front and back for gardens and aquaponics systems. The house has one bathroom and 2 bedrooms and like I said VERY unique and was sided with pallets in a log cabin fashion. The house needs ALOT of work but I am certainlly willing to pitch in for the sake of the cause. I am only asking what I have in it which is about the cost of a cheap car. I would like to find a family in need or someone who shares the vision of making it an urban farmsted and is willing to put in the sweat to make it happen. It is located near Jefferson city Missouri<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Sep 26 2011 15:42:14 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Manitou Designs]]></author>
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				<title>Anyone from this group going to the Art of Community Conference (ic.org)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[The folks at IC.org are putting on a conference about intentional communities, it is in Occidental California Sept 23-25. [that&#039;s north of San Francisco]<br /> <br /> I&#039;ll be there.<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.artofcmty.com/program-schedule" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.artofcmty.com/program-schedule </a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, Sep 9 2011 12:07:35 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[George Alchemy]]></author>
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				<title>Introduction to Galt's Gulch South</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hi,<br /> <br /> Just thought this to be a good place to get started. <br /> <br /> I&#039;m in the process of trying to start a small relatively self sustaining community on the Western slope of the Ecuadoran Andes at around 4000 ft. ASL.<br /> <br /> <br /> It&#039;s pretty much an over grown tree plantation right now but I&#039;m planning to develop it as a food producing Libertarian Community. I hope to attract self sufficient couples and families to either prepare for the future or go there now. I have a bit more than 75 acres and I plan to build homes on individual half hectare properties with shared utilities. There is electricity available at the sight. Irt is unreliable but I havfe an old Petter two lung Diesel 5KW generator plant. there is a river that enters the property on the south side, curves and leaves at the North border, reenters a little farther downstream and eventually exits at the NE corner of the Eastern Parcel. There will bee a paved road installed through the property in the next year or so. There is a 50 Megawatt power station being installed a few miles north of the property. I intend to build hydraulic ram pumps that will be supplied with water by a stream just outside the Western border of the Western parcel. The Neighbor and I have an agreement for me to install the pumps. The river, on the other hand, is 700 meters to the east of the road. It is 20 to 40 meters wide at different places, runs at 1 meter per second and is about 1 to 2 meters deep. both the stream and the river and have been for many years all year round. In the future I hope to drill a deep well with a jet pmp for water. The off site stream originates on the neighbor&#039;s property. There is also at least one stream originating on the property where the first homes will be built. The river head from first entry to second exit is said to be about 20 meters. Fully dammed that would be a multi megawatt plant. But th e power company is very closely tied to the government and they don&#039;t mind if you go up to 50KW. Above that they want their cut. &lt;G&gt;<br /> <br /> My concept is to sell off half hectare lots with or without outside walls divided into two parts; the end nearer a road will be the home site and the area behind will be productive food. <br /> <br /> I&#039;m looking into every alternative enerrgy source I can find and would love suggestions on things like pyrolysis. <br /> <br /> AS far as skill sets from resident owners I would like to find an elementary school teacher and a medical professional . I am in communication with Hesperian and Echo foundations for sanitation and health inforrmation where medical care and building codes are not existing. The great thing here is that there are no taxes on food grown here. You grow it, you pick it , you take it to the mercado and you sell it. Then you double (fold in half) your money and put it in your pocket. Home assistance an d gardeners are relatively inexpensive here. I am thinking about any number of auxiliary businesses. Perhaps the most expensive will be buying shipping containers from teeh Dam project and converting them to homes or apartment or barracks for work crews or per packaged emergency shelters complete with food supplies for a time period. They would be set up on a water, power and waste buss that would allow rapid multi unit construction. <br /> <br /> Thanks to anyone for any hints on how to better present this. I am starting to clear land within 60 days. <br /> <br /> Then I will begin growing varieties of foods that are more nutritious than the current local diet. Since this is a community development I intend to supply the workers with clean water and better food. A sick, undernourished person can neither learn nor work well. It is in everyone&#039;s best interest to help. <br /> <br /> One last thing - you gotta LOVE dogs. I have 5 all adoptions or rescues of one sort or another. There is a Quito Street dog rescue, A local pup who just showed up one night just when I needed a friend, two Goldens and a Shepherd mix. They are all inside dogs.&lt;G&gt; anyone got a good idea on how to get dog hair out of the carpet? &lt;G&gt; Wouldn&#039;t work here. <br /> <br /> Bamboo culture is another option. Guadua grows wild here. properly cured the stuff is as strong and just as durable as structural steel. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> later,<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Sep 8 2011 13:53:28 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Galts Gulch South]]></author>
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				<title>WHIDBEY ISLAND FARMING COMMUNITY</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Intentional community forming on south Whidbey dedicated to conscious evolution, organic farming and simple living. We have 20 acres of prime farmland, including a year-round creek and a view of the Olympics. In the short term, we&#039;re looking for renters with. In the long term, we&#039;re looking for co-owners to build 7 homes for a Planned Residential Development. We have monthly work parties where we accomplish a lot and have great fun. If you&#039;re interested in any of this, email me at <a class="snap_shots" href="mailto:litfin@whidbey.net">litfin@whidbey.net</a>&nbsp; I&#039;m a UW professor of political ecology:&nbsp; <a class="snap_shots" href="http://faculty.washington.edu/litfin" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://faculty.washington.edu/litfin</a>.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Sep 6 2011 22:41:41 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Karen Litfin]]></author>
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				<title>Forming Intentional Community in Central Iowa </title>
				<description><![CDATA[Tired of the rat race?<br /> Are you dreaming of something different?<br /> Do you want your life to have more meaning?<br /> Are you willing to work for your dreams?<br /> Do you want to explore new ways of living?<br /> <br /> The answer could be Intentional Community.<br /> Join us for a discussion about Gaia Center, a planned intentional community on 80 acres just 20 minutes east of Des Moines Iowa, outside Colfax. Come meet some of the people involved and learn about this sustainably planned project.<br /> <br /> We will be talking about- Green Building, Permaculture, Organic Foods, Visions for future, Nature, Cooperation, Art, Renewable Energy, Celebration, and Hard Work.<br /> <br /> If you are interested in creating a future for yourself and your loved ones that is based on communication and cooperation, creativity and joy- please joins us.<br /> <br /> <br /> Time	-Wednesday, August 31 · 5:30pm - 7:00pm<br /> Location	-Ritual Cafe<br /> On 13th St. between Grand &amp; Locust<br /> Des Moines, IA<br /> <br /> Also at:<br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001458473916" target="_blank" >http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001458473916</a><br /> <br /> coordinates (for you Google mappers)=&nbsp; 41.700442,-93.287126<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, Aug 21 2011 12:03:01 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Jonathan Overlin]]></author>
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				<title>avoiding city disrepair</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I currently have a bilevel garden in an urna area in Milwaukee, WI. the top level is at the fence/ground level of my neighbor.&nbsp; I would love to do a stacked raised bed for each layer but I am concerned about ruining the wooden fence that is there as a part of a very respectful and elderly neighbor.&nbsp; My plan is to elevate the ground level for next season and thusly raising a couple feet over neighborly ground level the upper garden.&nbsp; I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT TO HARM her fencing.<br /> Is it possible to apply something to her fencing or alternatively would it be sufficient to simply raise the first floor of the garden while using the current rock barrier holding the second platform in place.<br /> <br /> This is my first post and after spending hours looking around this sight, I am certainly a newcomer to this subject. despite a few years of self practice.<br /> <br /> P.S. I can&#039;t fnd anywhere for newcomers to hang out on this site.&nbsp; Am I missing something or is the site missing a place for sincerely interested but overwhelmed participants?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Aug 15 2011 21:46:13 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[regrets HD]]></author>
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				<title>Examples of cutting edge Eco-Communities</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hello All,<br /> <br /> I was wondering if anyone could post some examples of successful progressive Eco-communities that integrate alternative energy and organic/permaculture farming. My goal is to build or live in a tropical sustainable Eco-community and I would like to begin taking notes and doing extensive research on all necessary components of the matter. Thanks in advance for the help. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Aug 10 2011 20:01:24 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[kadakiss McCoy]]></author>
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				<title>Looking for a place to start an eco-community?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[8,000 square metres of land with two wells, an interesting house, great cellars, excellent barns, mature fruit trees and a useful ruin. On the edge of a little village in northern Bulgaria surrounded by flower meadows, common grazing land and forests. Lovely people in the village would welcome more residents. £21,000<br /> for more information contact Kathy via this forum or&nbsp; at <a class="snap_shots" href="mailto:mcgowankathy@gmail.com">mcgowankathy@gmail.com</a> and look at more information about the area at www.stjamespark.biz]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Aug 10 2011 00:40:17 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Kathy McGowan]]></author>
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				<title>What to do with 50 acres in Hawai'i ?!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Aloha kids !<br /> We&#039;ve got a wonderful old macadamia nut farm, has been left alone for over 20 years.<br /> Mac nut trees only cover a few acres, mostly empty available to transition to permaculture. There are a few acres that have mango, avocado, coconut, a few mountain apple and citrus, papaya, acerola cherry, coffee, and lot still undiscovered!<br /> We have the offgrid part moving and Mad Scientist labs for more such contraptions! Need knowledgable permaculture folks to come do that thing. <br /> It&#039;s got a great start, having reverted to natural growth and we&#039;re ready to make this into a village of such sorts for a permaculture paradise. <br /> <br /> 50 acres. Kapoho, Puna, Big Island, Hawai&#039;i. <br /> Who&#039;s ready??!!<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Aug 8 2011 18:22:53 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Smith Hatfield]]></author>
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				<title>Village needs people</title>
				<description><![CDATA[This is a great little village in Bulgaria that needs people. Property and land is cheap (2000 square metres + house and barns for around £6k), the climate is lush and challenging (-35°C to +40°C) and the people are great. <br /> Stop moaning about life in the UK and do something about it - come and live in Voditsa and get some real satisfaction and joy from life - it’s hard work but it’s not a nanny state - you actually have to think for yourself! A great place to bring up kids and there is so much fruit, you can hardly keep up. Find out more at www.stjamespark.biz or contact me for more information.<br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzjcu-97VmA" target="_blank" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzjcu-97VmA</a><br /> Kathy<br /> 00359888638130]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Aug 4 2011 23:56:42 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Kathy McGowan]]></author>
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