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				<title>Securing row cover on a raised bed</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I have quite a few raised beds. I used to buy wiggle wire and channels to hold the row cover material in place, but that is expensive. I have started to use automotive trim buttons. They cost about .05 cents a piece in bulk. I drill a hole in either the wood or my pvc frame and push the christmas tree like fasteners into the hole and it secures it very well. I don't connect the body to the sides so I can roll them up and down as required. A dandelion fork pops the fastener out if I have to remove them. I have used them with greenhouse film and they work just as well on that. In my regular greenhouse i secure the shade cloth with the same type fasteners. There are so many styles of these clips I can cover a variety of jobs.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, May 15 2012 18:05:52 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Robert Ray]]></author>
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				<title>Unconventional (permaculture lifestyle) Living with Kids and dealing with &quot;the man&quot;</title>
				<description><![CDATA[<br /> <br /> I have five kids under nine. We already do things differently, we home school, we drink a substance that some think should be pasturized, we don't follow every little recomendation of the conventional medical world. I already worry about someone giving us a hard time about these things. I recently read about a man and his wife whose children were taken away from them because they were living in a storage unit. read about it here-- They sound like creative people who were doing a great job with what they had, imploying a lot of the attitudes that this website stands for and it sounds very similar to my shipping container home ideas:<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/E-Houston-shed-family-says-poverty-cost-them-kids-2080056.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/E-Houston-shed-family-says-poverty-cost-them-kids-2080056.php</a><br /> <br /> <br /> It appears that parents are "guilty until proven innocent" these days when it comes to children. These people can have their kids taken away on anonymous tip from a neighbor. Some people don't think its right to even togive children chores to do. I am looking for advice, encouragement and experiences. Do we even have any rights anymore or are our kids simply state property that we feed while they brainwash them? So far we have been able to do what we want with homeschooling etc but I am a little afraid of alternative homes b/c I don't want to endanger them by opening our family to further criticism.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, May 14 2012 10:18:24 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Katherine Baker]]></author>
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				<title>Go Anywhere Post Hole Digger !!!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Thought I would share this inexpensive post hole digger idea...<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://hines.blogspot.com/2012/05/hines-farm-go-anywhere-post-hole-digger.html" target="_blank" >http://hines.blogspot.com/2012/05/hines-farm-go-anywhere-post-hole-digger.html</a><br /> <br /> Hines Farm - Go Anywhere Post Hole Digger !!!<br /> <br /> Recently we needed a 6" hole digger for transplanting larger plants and trees. We purchased a Harbor Freight 6 inch post hole auger (On sale for $49.99 - 25% Easter Day Discount), <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-diameter-auger-bit-95973.html" target="_blank" >http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-diameter-auger-bit-95973.html</a>, and adapted it to be used with our Milwaukee 1630-1 drill, (Voltage 120 AC Chuck Size 1/2 in. Amps 7.0 No Load Speed 900 RPM Chuck Type Keyed Spindle 5/8 in.-16 Gear Train Double Cord Type 8 ft. Fixed Construction Type Grounded Trigger Lock -- Spindle Lock No Soft Grip Handle No Length 12-1/4 in. Tool Weight 11.2 lbs.)<br /> <br /> Overall it provides for 36" depth, but can be easily adapted for deeper lengths.<br /> <br /> It has worked flawlessly so far for us. <br /> <br /> Always be prepared to release drill switch if you encounter large tree roots or rocks... (-: !!!<br /> <br /> <img src="http://i.imgur.com/Jx00P.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://i.imgur.com/aScMG.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://i.imgur.com/j5q63.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> This with a generator, 100 foot drop cord, and a 4x4 tractor, ATV and/or UTV provides hole drilling capacity almost anywhere you want.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, May 14 2012 07:36:41 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Monte Hines]]></author>
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				<title>Building a rock/cement water tank</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Water tank, horray!  Any ideas or thoughts are welcome!<br /> <br /> We are building a tank to hook up to be fed by a windmill as well as gutters (we have long dry spells, hence the windmill--plus we have a good windmill sitting around not in use, and an unused well by the house too).  In addition we have a dozen 40 gallon barrels we'll attach to each other and attach to the new tank.  The water will be used for watering plants, and as emergency-only, to-be-filtered drinking source.  <br /> <br /> We have a guy who's good with rockwork and has built cattle tanks for us before.  Planning to coat the inside with thoroseal.  Don't know about a roof--will probably have just a simple tin roof with leftover tin, not air tight or anything.  <br /> <br /> Our plan is to dig down until we hit rock (we are guessing this will be maybe 1-2 feet--it varies around the property from 2" to 4 feet) and lay the foundation there.  From the inner base of the tank (where the water will sit) we'll put a pipe going out one foot up so silt/debris will catch in the bottom and not clog the pipe.  Hopefully this will be underground (depends on depth of rock) to avoid freezing.  This will go to an above ground faucet pressurized by the water in the tank.<br /> <br /> That's the plan anyway.  We've never built a tank like this before--is there something we're missing?  Or anything that's crazy? :)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, May 12 2012 16:37:21 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Chris Dean]]></author>
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				<title>garden pathways - what do you use?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I know that there are many different ways to make paths in the garden or in between rows, etc. I don't know if grass is ideal, so I wanted to see what others are doing. I have just planted white clover this year in our pathways, to keep the grass down, and encourage bees to come. Not sure if this will work next year, as the grass could creep back in. I'm also experimenting with rye grass/straw in between our long wide rows in the field. Any other suggestions? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, May 12 2012 11:16:12 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[John Richer]]></author>
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				<title>what to do with ashes?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know what to do with wood ashes? I read some where it is the same as adding lime to your soil. What's it good for?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, May 11 2012 19:15:56 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[John Richer]]></author>
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				<title>Turn-Key Sustainable Homestead</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Turn-key Sustainable Homestead on 14.7 acres. <font color='green'>Greenhouse is 20 ft diameter state of the art and solar powered</font> (from Growing Spaces) with <font color='darkblue'>aqua/hydroponics set-up</font>. Excavation for in-ground greenhouse 36x18on great south facing slope. Orchard has well established ...and newly planted trees...a large variety, several variety of newly planted nut trees, 11 blueberries and a young vineyard. Numerous raised beds, including an asparagus bed, make gardening easy. <font color='darkblue'>Metal roof has water collection system</font>. <font color='green'>Solar panel frames in the ground, panels and electronic equipment are in the shop, battery storage is the only component needed to complete. </font>Rabbit hutch barn with rabbits, Chicken coop/barn with ducks and chickens. Sheep and goats on lower pasture with 1 of 2 ponds, this pond has a small spring. Neither pond has gone dry. Ranch styled home is sprawling. Home is centered around a very functional kitchen and the very large Great Room (1000sg ft) is ceramic tiled with a cathedral ceiling includes an <font color='darkblue'>old-fashioned cookstove</font>, it is plumed and wired for a second or canning kitchen,  this room is suitable for meetings or large family get-togethers. Just off the Great Room is a food storage room with below ground walls, for temperature control, and LOTS of shelves. 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, oversized 2 car garage with storage shelves. Unfinished 900 sq ft carriage room over garage. Large attached shop roughed in for another full bath.<br /> Close to Springfield and Branson Missouri. Only 4 miles to Ava. Douglas Co Missouri has no building codes but this house is built to national codes!<br /> <font color='darkblue'>Owners MUST relocate because of an amazing job opportunity and are heart-broken to leave this homestead. </font>All animals ( hair sheep,  goats, chickens, ducks and rabbits) may/may not convey. May also convey Garden Tractor with bagger and cart, Chipper and other equipment for gardening and animal care. <br /> Primary heat: Propane Forced air also Fireplace insert<br /> Central Air<br /> Ava R-1 schools<br /> Acres 14.7 W/L <br /> Square feet: 4500 approx<br /> Douglas County, Ava, Missouri $260,000 will negotiate<br /> Contact: Sharen Berry owner:<br />  417-683-0862]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, May 11 2012 08:39:38 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[sharen berry]]></author>
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				<title>My trip to Polyface Farms and the chance to interview Joel Salatin</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Everyone in a while you get to do something really cool that you are exceptionally proud of.  <br /> <br /> Last week, I got to visit Polyface Farms in Swoope, VA.   The Coup de Grace was actually getting to meet the man himself, Mr. Joel Salatin!  <br /> <br /> The farm is amazing and it is so exciting to get to see things that you have read about or watched on Youtube.  <br /> <br /> I blogged about it here with pictures, video and audio from the farm: <a class="snap_shots" href="http://pantryparatus.com/blog/polyface_farm/" target="_blank" >http://pantryparatus.com/blog/polyface_farm/</a> <br /> <br /> Leave a comment if you like.  <br /> <br /> Wilson<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, May 10 2012 17:24:54 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Wilson Foedus]]></author>
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				<title>Hay making without machines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I have enough grass etc here so that I could make hay for my goats and pigs, but I have no machinery.<br /> Last year I tried a scythe but my back didn't like it much. I could do a little and then had to rest. Also the weather up here rarely stays dry enough to cut for several days by hand and then turn and dry manually.<br /> So my plan is to turn one of my ruins on the land into a greenhouse / drying room. I want to add an under floor rocket mass heater so that I can toss the grass onto the slabs, dry it quickly without turning much and hand bale it. If I can make 30 small square bales I can feed my goats all winter and should have some spare for my pigs. Of course if I could make more I could sell some but thats maybe for the future.<br /> <br /> I am open to all ideas on how else I could cut the grass. Also hand baler plans are more than welcomed, I came up empty when I searched for it online. Any suggestions on the whole idea? Anybody doing this already? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, May 10 2012 11:53:16 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Stefan Pagel]]></author>
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				<title>Louden Eqpt Catalog - hay hooks</title>
				<description><![CDATA[23 megs. but worth it!<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://archive.org/details/loudenhayunloadi00loud" target="_blank" >http://archive.org/details/loudenhayunloadi00loud</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, May 5 2012 17:39:58 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Morgan Morrigan]]></author>
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				<title>HELP Goat Supplies???</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Can anyone help me out? I have 2 milking goat and need a stainless steel bucket. I am looking for one that has the mettle cover on it. I have seen a picture of them on the web, but can find one to buy. <br /> Anybody have any idea where I can find one? I have looked up and down on web still no luck. <br /> Thank you all for any help you can give me.<br /> I have attached a pic of what im looking for.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, May 3 2012 18:52:04 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Stacy Zoozwick]]></author>
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				<title>Raised bed in greenhouse</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I built a new greenhouse last season and this will be the first season to see if my raised bed trial has any merit. I used hay bales as a base inside a three foot box. This is on the north side of the green house so I am hoping for some insulative value. I used plastic to protect the wood from rot. Mylar on the  outside wall only, to reflect any heat from the greenhouse back. Corrugated drain pipe across the tops of the bales attached to a 12volt bilge vent fan. The fan sucks heated air from the greenhouse peak and blows it under the bed. All materials were repurposed from construction cast offs other than the bilge fan. Solar panels from a yard sale power the fan, hay bales were moldy and free.  So there is a little over 12 inches of good compost and soil on top of the tubes now and planted. The white green house wall that is visible is row cover behind that on the exterior wall the greenhouse film can be rolled up on hot days to allow additional venting. I do plan on trying black shade cloth at some point on that wall to see if it warms the greenhouse significantly but would still vent. Just to the right of the down tube of the vent you can see a temperature monitor that records humidity and temps and plugs into a USB port for data collection for my trial. I've used the same monitoring device in a similar position without the raised bed previously.<br />  My chicken coop and yard are what you see through the windows on the far end. <br />   ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, May 1 2012 07:55:42 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Robert Ray]]></author>
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				<title>House and land for sale in Scotland</title>
				<description><![CDATA[My neighbours are selling up and this could be a great opportunity for someone. It is a 4 bed house with 50 acres. If you are interested pm me and I can send you a link to the details.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, Apr 28 2012 12:44:05 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Katy Whitby-last]]></author>
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				<title>How do you leave a garden behind?  What do you do to sell a suburban homestead?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hi all,<br /> <br /> I'm looking to move, and set up my Permie Paradise on a acreage with another family.  The catch: My husband and I were planning to stay in our current house for 50 years, so we have the beginnings of a weird-ass suburban permie garden/foodforest that I have spent lots of time/energy/love creating.  I don't want to sell this place and find that it's all been ripped out a year later.  I don't want to spend the next year making it look more conventional, because I don't even know what that IS any more (and what if I sell it to someone that would have ripped it out anyways?!).  I suppose I'm looking for stories from people that have done similar things, and had it turn out ok, or sold a place and were somehow able to never look at it again.  Argh!!  Help me decide what to spend my energy on, in the last year I'll be here?  Please?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Apr 25 2012 21:22:00 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Erin Newell]]></author>
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				<title>You WILL be able to lift that again</title>
				<description><![CDATA[a brand new type of exo-skeleton should be availible from japan next year. Will be able to do the heavy lifting again.<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428614.800-wearable-muscle-suit-makes-heavy-lifting-a-cinch.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428614.800-wearable-muscle-suit-makes-heavy-lifting-a-cinch.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Apr 23 2012 16:11:04 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Morgan Morrigan]]></author>
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				<title>pandora armband</title>
				<description><![CDATA[<a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.pandorarmbandschmuck.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">pandora armband</a> are so vast and distinctly styled that anyone wishing to make their own <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.pandorarmbandschmuck.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">pandora schmuck</a> could choose from a seemingly limitless array of options. <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.pandorarmbandschmuck.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">pandora anhänger</a> has strived to avoid mass production of duplicate ideas, and has the craft of making timeless and in trend <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.pandorarmbandschmuck.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">pandora anhänger günstig</a> drawn down to a science. You can choose any <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.pandorarmbandschmuck.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">pandora armband anhänger</a>  that you find suitable or special to you, and use a series of them with a base bracelet to create something even more special and unique to you. Lavishing quality that you create for yourself using <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.pandorarmbandschmuck.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">pandora schmuck günstig</a>, will certainly satisfy any desire you have of excellent craftsmanship, creative imagination, and fashionable style and design.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Apr 23 2012 03:06:50 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[kiddy smith]]></author>
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				<title>Could I have some help/ advice?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hello everyone,<br /> <br /> I'm new to the forum, but I have been reading about modern homesteading and permaculture (and related topics) for some time.  Mostly, I was just idly dreaming without actually putting much into practice, though I have been trying to garden in the shady, poorly drained patio of my rented house.<br /> <br /> Now, however, I might have an opportunity to purchase a house with some land, almost 3 acres.  I realize this isn't much compared to a big farm, but it is a lot compared to a patio.  I am excited about the possibilities with the land, but a little confused as to how to start.  I don't own the house and land yet, but having some guidance would make it much easier to go ahead with the deal.<br /> <br /> Currently, the three acres are full of weeds, which seem to have occupied the rows that were previously planted with an annual row crop.  I was thinking about starting by gradually converting that land to mixed crops, especially perennials.  However, it is somewhat nerve wracking to think of having all that land and needing to do something with it.  Also, the house needs some work, which isn't too intimidating, but most of our disposable funds would probably go to getting the house ready at first, so we are wondering about start up costs for growing any crops.<br /> <br /> I was wondering what resources you all could direct me to/ advice you could give me about getting started with permaculture.<br /> <br /> Thank you!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, Apr 21 2012 21:51:56 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Daniel Albers]]></author>
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				<title>Puff grain cannon for home made breakfast cereals</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I wanted to share an unsatisfied curiosity to learn how to make my own healthy breakfast grain cereals from my own farm grown grains.  It costs 4 dollars on average for a box of cereal and I would guess there is 15-40 cents worth of product before preparation.  The cost of shipping the stuff is a chunk of the price but this itch led me to do some researching on a whole grain puffer machine.  I have seen many industrial items but this one is by far my favorite and is a particularly good quality design!<br /> <br /> <br /> <object width="640" height="480">
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                </object><br /> <br /> <br /> The title of the video is misleading when you consider that this pressurized cannon can puff rice (Rice Krispies), barley (Golden Puffs), quinoa, wild rice or any other grain.  I have not been able to locate these in the U.S. so I may look into manufacturing my own someday in the future hopefully :)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Apr 19 2012 21:49:53 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Amedean Messan]]></author>
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				<title>Dames Rocket - is it bad and should it be removed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[My wife planted a variety of wildflowers last year and this flox like plant came up with four, not five petal flowers that have been identified as "dames rocket." Her research shows its invasive and spreads and is recommended for removal according to this website. <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.prairiemoon.com/blog/customer-frequently-asked-questions/dames-rocket-vs-native-phlox/2010/05/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.prairiemoon.com/blog/customer-frequently-asked-questions/dames-rocket-vs-native-phlox/2010/05/</a> <br /> <br /> But since they may not have the permie attitude we do, I wanted to pose the question to the awesome experts here at permies.com.<br /> <br /> I've seen several threads on search here that mention dames rocket and some people eat it. No one yet has said, at least in my searches that it's bad and needs to be killed. I think its a pretty plant. We have about an acre of land. I would love to keep it if it has any benefits. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Apr 19 2012 09:51:41 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Loren Hunt]]></author>
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				<title>Chickens, eggs, feces and E.coli</title>
				<description><![CDATA[In true Derrick Jensen style, I squatted and lightly buried my feces in the backyard chicken coop. A few days later the hole was undug and the feces totally gone, the chickens must have found this scrumptious gift and indulged. And I collected eggs and also indulged. A great exchange. I finally told the rest of my housemates, and the issue of E.coli seemed to concern everybody but me. Any thoughts? Or some resources?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Apr 16 2012 11:24:47 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Andrew Afelskie]]></author>
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				<title>Homestead Vegtable Garden: To dig or not to dig? (That is my question)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[So its my 4th year with my raised beds and I've decided to establish a new garden area  (12' x 25') for the homestead annual vegetables.  After much consideration and research, I've decided that I'm more confused whether to go dig or no dig now then I was when decided to establish the area early last fall.<br /> <br /> So I pose this question to other homesteaders: How would you establish 12x25 undisturbed top-soil (last winter I piled the leaves in this area so some of the grass is already dead).  <b>Would you go dig?  No dig + Sheet Mulch?  What are you doing now? How is it working?  How do you feel about it?<br /> </b><br /> Right now I'm leaning towards a very traditional victory garden.  My goal is to produce a very productive patch of healthy vegetables.  Due to personal time constraints I need to minimize how labor intensive upkeep is, and importing organic matter to the property has been a challenge.<br /> <br /> I've recently been reading Steve Solomon's books and am inclined to follow his methods because my experience in the garden thus far supports a lot of what he has to say.  <br /> <br /> However because I'm implementing permaculture practices elsewhere on my property;  I'm a bit torn when considering going completely traditional; Being in my 4th garden year I've already learned the hard way that while idealism and enthusiasm are cheap, hard work and carefully applied technique are often more productive.<br /> <br /> One thought I had was to dig down maybe 10'' with my spade, backfill the hole with branches/rotten logs from around the property and then push the soil back on top to create a slightly raised bed.  In this area I have 3-5'' topsoil and then a moderate clay.  I wouldn't use mulch and do weed control with the hoe.<br /> <br /> Another thought I had was to do a bake off of different techniques, sheet mulch one area, double dig another, ect....  Then I'd let field trials make my decision. (I've already learned the hard way that bio-intensive raised beds are not a sustainable practice for the part time homesteader. )  Again my end goal is to find the no gimmick; truly manageable, sustainable, and efficient way to produce a large portion of the household vegetables.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Apr 16 2012 07:02:08 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Elisha Gray]]></author>
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				<title>Documentary about running a farm from the 1700s!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[This documentary is loaded with great ideas about how to exist in a very low-tech way.  The 3 people (historians and archeologists)  live on this farm for 1 year.  They start off rebuilding the farmhouse and plowing the field.  So, learn from their amazing recreation and keep in mind the things that we know how to do better with the same level of technology today!<br /> <br /> If anyone knows of anymore documentaries like this, please share!<br /> <br /> <object width="640" height="480">
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, Apr 15 2012 15:42:52 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Alex Ojeda]]></author>
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				<title>Large tomato cages</title>
				<description><![CDATA[We had problems getting tomato cages big enough until I found a book on growing world record tomatoes.  The guy took concrete reinforcement mesh 5'x10' sections and rolled them up making a cage that is 5' high and 3' across.  He the stacked the cages up for his 39' high plants.  <br /> <br /> We only stack to get 10' high cages because our tomatoes only get about 10 or 11 feet tall.   The cages have been in use for 10 years and will last as long as we will be gardening.<br /> <br /> ernie]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, Apr 15 2012 12:02:51 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Ernie Balch]]></author>
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				<title>Documentary about a Farm From the year 1620...</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I thought everyone would like this documentary where three historians and archaeologists rebuild an English farm from the 1600s.  They run it for a year using only technology and techniques from the 1600s.  <object width="640" height="480">
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, Apr 13 2012 20:20:13 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Alex Ojeda]]></author>
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				<title>Can we use cl?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hello,<br />  As there are lot of water filters are available,<br /> which are most expensive , and some are the cause of wastage of water,<br /> So how can we use cl gas for killing germs , any one have any experience about that?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Apr 11 2012 09:20:41 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[David Brett]]></author>
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				<title>1 1/4 PVC filled with Cement for Hoophouse/Greenhouse good idea?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I am building a greenhouse similar to the following:<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpB_6MUZLy8" target="_blank" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpB_6MUZLy8</a><br /> <br /> So basically a 3' wall with 1 1/4 PVC as the hoop roof.  My concern is a buddy who is helping me build this is strongly recommending the PVC be filled with concrete.  A little background:  I live in Prince Edward Island, Canada.  We get upwards of 100 inches of snow a year, and winds that can gust to 60mph.  Even summer is breezy, since we are an island.  Is the concrete overkill?, will it make it more wobbly?, or is sand good to use for fill, or no fill at all.  I am using 6mil UV greenhouse poly as the cover and sides...<br /> <br /> Any comments/suggestions are welcome ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Apr 10 2012 07:11:57 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Brent Eamer]]></author>
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				<title>Your criteria for buying land</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hi there!<br /> <br /> My girlfriend and I are looking to take the jump and finally buy land within the next year or so. I wanted to ask what factors you personally would consider when purchasing land. Here's what I can think of off the top of my head-<br /> <br /> total price<br /> price per acre<br /> total acreage<br /> seclusion<br /> distance from nearest town<br /> population of area<br /> slope<br /> what property was previously used for<br /> any water source<br /> taxes<br /> <br /> Am I missing anything important that you would consider?<br /> <br /> Also- how would you rank these in importance? Would the lack of south facing slope be an absolute deal breaker? Would you only buy land where you are completely secluded? I personally think my list is arranged from most to least important, simply because I wrote down what came to mind first.<br /> <br /> Thanks for your help!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Apr 9 2012 16:50:54 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[jesse markowitz]]></author>
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				<title>Shamballa Bracelet Embraced by Movie, TV and Sports Stars</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Today the <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.shamballabraceletsaleuk.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Shamballa bracelets</a> has become one of the most popular gift items of the season. Embraced in the fashion world for both men and women, the <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.shamballabraceletsaleuk.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">shamballa bracelet</a> is actually very simple to make with even minimal supplies.<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.shamballabraceletsaleuk.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Shamballa bracelets uk</a> are likely to be popular for many years to come if for no other reason than the fact that they have can have real meaning to those that wear <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.shamballabraceletsaleuk.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">shamballa jewels</a>, beyond the monetary value attributed to bracelets made from precious metals such as gold, silver and platinum.<br /> <br /> Make one for yourself or create one for someone special. If you are looking for that "just right" gift for someone you love or care about, consider creating a "one of a kind" <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.shamballabraceletsaleuk.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">shamballa uk</a> as that gift. It's a great way to stand apart from the crowd with a unique item that will be appreciated for years to come.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Apr 9 2012 00:25:45 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[johno smitho]]></author>
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				<title>legality, permission, forgiveness, fines, process, complaints ...</title>
				<description><![CDATA[First, this is not about politics or changing laws.  This is about navigating existing laws.<br /> <br /> The first example that pops into mind is ponds.  If you talk to some agencies, they wanna give you grant money to build a pond.  Other agencies will tell you that it is illegal to build a pond.  Some agencies only care about your pond if they receive a complaint.   There could be several dozen government offices that require to be notified about anything pondish, and yet those that build ponds know which offices to notify and which to skip.  <br /> <br /> Building permits are similar.  Some people build without them and never have a problem.  Some people built without them and are then told to tear their stuff down.  Some people build without them and find themselves in a four year long entanglement with several levels of government including the feds.  <br /> <br /> And then there is that thread about <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.permies.com/forums/posts/list/40/5901" target="_new" >trespassing</a>.  I first heard about these techniques as a way to bypass building codes.  I suppose it works on every branch of government.  So you can basically do whatever you want.  but it sounds like you need to be pretty savvy about that sort of thing.<br /> <br /> Another thing is that I was talking to a construction guy and he was telling me that pretty much everything is illegal if you get into a pissing match with an inspector.   And different inspectors can come out and some will say "what you are doing doesn't need a permit or inspection" and others will say that the same thing needs more permits and more inspections.  <br /> <br /> And then there is the story of two guys in one town.  One easy going guy fixed the leak in his roof without a permit and got a $20,000 fine.  Another guy, fully ready to take the city on, did all sorts of roof work and other stuff without a permit and the city did nothing.<br /> <br /> Another awkward position is having potlucks.  The upside is building community.  the downside is having people attend your potluck that have a hobby of calling every government office to report every wacky thing they can think of.  They just can't stop themselves.  And if you are doing something interesting, they have to call.  <br /> <br /> Another thought:  some people are sweet as pie.  People just naturally like them.  And they can do all sorts of odd things and have all sorts of interesting people come over every day and all of their un-permitted stuff is never questioned.  their interesting stuff is never reported.  I am certain that I cannot depend on this approach since I don't have these super powers.<br /> <br /> I've been thinking a lot about the idea of ten or more acres, a border hedge and a really big, strong, people proof gate.   My thoughts are that while this works very well at keeping critters in, and discouraging predators, it also discourages trespassers and people up to no good.   It seems kinda icky to keep people out to this degree.  But at the same time, I suspect that if one is doing interesting things, it could facilitate a lot more smoothitude.  If an agency is responding to a complaint, then they are probably used to driving up to the front door and doing their thing.  but if they can't get near the front door and there is no way to walk in, I suspect there is a 98% chance that they will just say "screw it" and move on to their next task.  <br /> <br /> It is amazing how some folks think that the law seems to require that in order to do anything interesting, you need to be lawyer.  A really good lawyer.  Maybe even have a team of a dozen excellent lawyers.  Maybe even be spending a million dollars a year on lawyers to for a farm operation that nets $20,000 a year if everything had no lawyers.    And this team of lawyers needs to be experts in all sorts of laws.<br /> <br /> Another thing that might help:  having a really good lawyer.  A bulldog lawyer.  So that if an office gets a complaint they might say "I know those guys have that bulldog lawyer, so I'm gonna move this complaint to the bottom of the stack.  So it is on the "to do" list, but we will probably never get around to it."<br /> <br /> As I travel around and see lots of amazing and interesting things, there are a lot of excellent things that I don't share because the property owner is concerned about legal repercussions.   And I appreciate hearing the stories of how things work out, and what sorts of challenges were encountered, and how to make the best of it.  <br /> <br /> I think it is kinda funny when I talk about wofati or rocket mass heaters and people say it will never be permitted, or you can never get it insured.  At the same time I live in a county that does not require any permitting and either thing is perfectly acceptable.  Granted, insurance companies aren't gonna insure it, but I kinda think there are a lot of times where it is better to not fool with insurance companies.   And then I think about areas where it might be illegal and then I think about how people are willing to smoke pot illegally, but they aren't willing to try a rocket mass heater.   And I've heard of people that decided to take the risk - and they heated their home last winter with a rocket mass heater.<br /> <br /> I would very much like to hear stories on how people were able to accomplish interesting things in these complicated times.  Too often people say "you can't _____" when the more accurate answer is that you can, but it just takes knowledge on how to navigate this sort of thing.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, Apr 8 2012 09:30:47 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[paul wheaton]]></author>
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				<title>Looking for Homestead. Lease/Rent to own??? Whats the pro's and con's</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Looking for Homestead in Central WI. <br /> We are looking for 10-40 Acers in Central WI to rent or land contract. Has anyone on Permies leased there property or homestead before? What was some of pros and cons of your experience. We just don’t trust the banks rite now and would like to try a different route.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, Apr 6 2012 17:18:41 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Stacy Zoozwick]]></author>
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				<title>Sorghum</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Does anyone grow sorghum? I was interested to learn that you can make sorghum molasses. Does anyone do that or have any experience to share?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Apr 4 2012 07:44:10 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Alison Freeth-Thomas]]></author>
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				<title>death metal homesteader chick</title>
				<description><![CDATA[great gal, writes up her mistakes too.<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://a-homesteading-neophyte.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://a-homesteading-neophyte.blogspot.com/</a><br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, Mar 31 2012 17:55:55 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Morgan Morrigan]]></author>
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				<title>Advice on treating Manganese contamination in well water?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[We're looking at buying a property, but the disclosure on the well showed a manganese level is 172 ug/L - typical is 10 ug/L and the legal level is 50 ug/L in California - so 3.5X the legal limit.  I know we can buy a filter for the house, but we would also need one for the livestock and not sure if there are any issues with irrigating a garden, etc.  If anyone has dealt with this before I would like to hear what you did or is this a deal killer.<br /> <br /> Thanks,<br /> Patrick<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[Pat JFree]]></author>
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				<title>Advice on treating Manganese contamination in well water?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[We're looking at buying a property, but the disclosure on the well showed a manganese level is 172 ug/L - typical is 10 ug/L and the legal level is 50 ug/L in California - so 3.5X the legal limit.  I know we can buy a filter for the house, but we would also need one for the livestock and not sure if there are any issues with irrigating a garden, etc.  If anyone has dealt with this before I would like to hear what you did or is this a deal killer.<br /> <br /> Thanks,<br /> Patrick<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Mar 29 2012 12:49:47 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Pat JFree]]></author>
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				<title>Raw Milk US government on a rampage.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[<a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.infowars.com/ventura-county-on-raw-milk-rampage-after-destroying-rawesome-other-raw-milk-operations-now-targeted/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.infowars.com/ventura-county-on-raw-milk-rampage-after-destroying-rawesome-other-raw-milk-operations-now-targeted/</a><br /> <br /> These are some great websites on raw milk, and other insane things are government is doing with the small farmer.<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.thecompletepatient.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.thecompletepatient.com/</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Mar 29 2012 07:58:53 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Stacy Zoozwick]]></author>
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				<title>Villas popular in Kochi</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Villas are currently popular in Kerala property market. They are the primary option that people choose when it comes to selecting a residential space. <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.kentcoindia.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">villas in kochi</a>are those which are the best known and demanded for. Kochi is leaping forward to attain a metropolitan status. Hence, people have started to throng in the city in large numbers. Many of them come in search of better living standards. Many others, who are employed in the IT industries in the city, buy villas near their job locations.<br /> <br /> Both luxury villas and premium villas are sold out in minutes in Kochi. The builders, who construct residential spaces, thus concentrate on the villas. They choose the location for the villas with much care. Those villas near the scenic spots, tourist locations and historic significant monuments are the ones which have more demand. People love to reside near these places and enjoy the beauty of the nature. Similarly, those near the IT parks, multinational companies and other business concerns are also sold out easily. People from different places come and settle in the city to pursue their dream IT job. Investing in villas in these places thus promises high investment returns also.<br /> <br /> Villas are not only available for sale, but also for rent. People who want to change their residence temporarily can rent a villa instead of buying it. Further, those less sound financially to own one presently can choose the option. It can now be widely seen that an owner of a villa in Kochi is given more status in the society.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Mar 28 2012 23:47:49 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Dwer Swert]]></author>
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				<title>pose unknown safety risks</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, involves <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet</b></a> injecting millions of gallons of water, <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet Online</b></a> chemicals and sand thousands of feet underground in shale formations to free trapped oil and gas. A surge in exploration in shale <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.winterclothesstore.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Winter Clothes</b></a> formations has been accompanied by a “new infrastructure” of pipelines that may pose unknown safety risks, according to the report. <br /> Sixteen state agencies cited “moderate or high <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Shoes</b></a> safety risks” because regulators weren’t certain of the exact locations of pipelines, according to the report. Other concerns included <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Sole Shoess</b></a> construction quality, maintenance practices and unknown current conditions of pipelines, the GAO said. <br /> The report suggested <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Heels</b></a> creating an online database for states to share information <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Louboutins Outlets</b></a> on practices to ensure safety of its unregulated pipelines. To contact the reporter on this story: <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Christian Louboutins Outlet</b></a> William McQuillen in Washington at <a class="snap_shots" href="mailto:bmcquillen@bloomberg.net">bmcquillen@bloomberg.net</a> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Mar 26 2012 00:11:53 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[lifeshoes simth]]></author>
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				<title>performance and safety</title>
				<description><![CDATA[The Obama administration may start <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet</b></a> collecting data on the pipelines that energy companies use to transport natural gas and oil extracted from shale by hydraulic <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.winterclothesstore.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Winter Clothes</b></a> fracturing, according to a government report. <br /> Federal and state regulators lack <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Shoes</b></a> enough information to determine the safety of pipelines that collect gas at well sites and carry the fuel to processing facilities, according to the report from the <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Sole Shoess</b></a> Government Accountability Office. The Department of Transportation’s Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Heels</b></a> Administration, which oversees transmission pipelines, doesn’t collect data on the smaller lines at the wells, according to the report. <br /> “While the safety risks of federally unregulated, <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Louboutins Outlets</b></a> onshore hazardous liquid and gas gathering pipelines<a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Christian Louboutins Outlet</b></a> are generally considered to be lower than <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet Online</b></a> other types of pipelines, PHMSA is currently not able to determine the performance and safety of these gathering pipelines,” according to today’s report. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Mar 26 2012 00:11:12 MDT]]></pubDate>
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				<title> payments by at least 20 per cent.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[The company also plans on June 29 to <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet</b></a> start selling Nike+ technology-equipped basketball and training shoes, which send performance information directly to <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet Online</b></a> mobile apps. In its fiscal fourth quarter, the company expects revenue to rise by a percentage in the low double digits, mainly driven by sales <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.winterclothesstore.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Winter Clothes</b></a> of its Nike and Converse brands. It expects its earnings per share to grow by a percentage in the mid-teens.<br /> Nike shares edged up $1.23 to $112.22 <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Shoes</b></a> after hours. Before the company reported its earnings, the stock ended regular trading at $110.99, up 55 cents. It's up 15 percent since the <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Sole Shoess</b></a> beginning of the year.<br /> Besides, Mr DeMarco <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Heels</b></a> argued, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been providing distressed borrowers with significant assistance. <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Louboutins Outlets</b></a> Last year, two-thirds of the companies’ <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Christian Louboutins Outlet</b></a> 322,000 loan modifications involved reductions in monthly payments by at least 20 per cent.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Mar 26 2012 00:10:37 MDT]]></pubDate>
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				<title>its outer-space themed </title>
				<description><![CDATA[A weak spot was Japan, still recovering <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet</b></a> from the earthquake and tsunami of last year. There, revenue rose 3 percent, but it fell 3 percent when adjusted for currency <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet Online</b></a> fluctuations.<br /> Nike raised a ruckus in February, when it released its outer-space themed <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.winterclothesstore.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Winter Clothes</b></a> Foamposite Galaxy sneakers. Crowds of people waiting in line <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Shoes</b></a> for a chance to hand over $220 for the glow-in-the-dark shoes dissolved into conflicts. Similar scenes occurred <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Sole Shoess</b></a> in December when Nike released its retro Air Jordan XI basketball sneakers.<br /> Products Nike introduced this month include <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Heels</b></a> FlyKnit lightweight shoes, which use technology that knits the entire top of the shoe with a single piece of synthetic <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Louboutins Outlets</b></a> yarn. The ultralight sneakers are to be worn by Olympic athletes <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Christian Louboutins Outlet</b></a> from the U.S., U.K., Russia and Kenya, and they're be available to the general public in July.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Mar 26 2012 00:10:02 MDT]]></pubDate>
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				<title>year's fiscal third quarter</title>
				<description><![CDATA["Our timing is great as we head into an <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet</b></a> exciting season of sport that starts in a few days with the Final Four (NCAA basketball championships) and then builds <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet Online</b></a> towards the Olympics and Euro champs," said Parker. "These are the moments we love."<br /> Net income for the quarter that <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.winterclothesstore.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Winter Clothes</b></a> ended Feb. 29 rose to $560 million, or $1.20 per share. That's compared with $523 million, or $1.10 per share, in last <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Shoes</b></a> year's fiscal third quarter. And it beats the $1.17 per share that analysts polled by <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Sole Shoess</b></a> FactSet expected on average.<br /> The company, based in Beaverton, <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Heels</b></a> Ore., said revenue rose 15 percent to $5.85 billion, just beating the $5.82 billion analysts expected. North American <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Louboutins Outlets</b></a> revenue rose 17 percent, Western Europe revenue rose 4 percent, Central and Eastern Europe revenue rose 9 percent, <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Christian Louboutins Outlet</b></a> China rose 25 percent and emerging markets rose 23 percent.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Mar 26 2012 00:09:29 MDT]]></pubDate>
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				<title>upcoming major sporting events</title>
				<description><![CDATA[The world's largest maker of athletic <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet</b></a> shoes and clothes also said its orders heading into spring were up 15 percent from a year ago, signaling continued <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet Online</b></a> strong demand for its goods ahead of the Olympics and European soccer championships in June.<br /> The results beat analysts' <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.winterclothesstore.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Winter Clothes</b></a> expectations. But higher costs ate into Nike's gross margin, or the amount of <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Shoes</b></a> each dollar in revenue a company actually keeps. Consumer product makers across the board are facing high costs for <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Sole Shoess</b></a> materials, labor and freight. Nike said some of its costs were easing, though its labor costs remain high.<br /> "I believe there is some stability <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Heels</b></a> asing into the broader marketplace as consumer confidence moves higher in most parts of the world," <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Louboutins Outlets</b></a> CEO Mike Parker said. Still, Nike, known for its trademark swoosh <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Christian Louboutins Outlet</b></a> symbol, sounded an upbeat note about new products and upcoming major sporting events.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Mar 26 2012 00:09:01 MDT]]></pubDate>
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				<title>Red Bottom Shoes</title>
				<description><![CDATA["We're very encouraged by those demographic <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet</b></a> trends and what they portend for the future," Fithian said. The data also revealed long-term challenges facing the U.S. <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet Online</b></a> theater industry, including attracting younger consumers who have more entertainment options, such as video games. Last year, younger <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.winterclothesstore.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Winter Clothes</b></a> frequent moviegoers (those in the 18-to-24 age group) declined by nearly 1 million.<br /> Also, it's becoming <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Shoes</b></a> harder for studios to generate the box-office revenue they did in prior years because studios are releasing fewer movies. In 2011, MPAA studios <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Sole Shoess</b></a> released 141 movies, unchanged from 2010, but nearly one-third fewer than a decade ago.<br /> Nike Inc.'s <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Heels</b></a> third-quarter results demonstrated the sneaker and <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Louboutins Outlets</b></a> athletic gear maker's global popularity on <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Christian Louboutins Outlet</b></a>Thursday, when it said its revenue rose in all geographic regions, with particular strength in North America and emerging markets.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Mar 26 2012 00:08:08 MDT]]></pubDate>
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				<title>the first couple of months</title>
				<description><![CDATA[And that's an 18% decline since admissions peaked in <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet</b></a> 2002, when 1.57 billion tickets were sold, according to the report. Nonetheless, Dodd and Fithian said 2012 was off to a strong start and <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet Online</b></a> would get a big lift from big upcoming movies, including this weekend's "The Hunger Games"from Lionsgate and <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.winterclothesstore.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Winter Clothes</b></a> Paramount Pictures' action movie "G.I. Joe: Retaliation."<br /> "We're looking forward to a tremendous year if the first couple of months <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Shoes</b></a> are any indication as to where we are headed," Dodd said, noting that box-office revenue is up nearly 14% so far this year.<br /> Domestic movie ticket sales continue <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Sole Shoess</b></a> to be fueled by repeated visits by frequent moviegoers, those who go to the movies once a month or more. Frequent moviegoers represent <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Heels</b></a> only 10% of the population but purchased half of all tickets sold in 2011.<br /> Although fewer Hispanics visited theaters <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Louboutins Outlets</b></a> last year, they were more likely than any other ethnic group to go the movies, accounting for 24% of frequent moviegoers even though they <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Christian Louboutins Outlet</b></a>  represented 16% of the population. The number of Hispanic frequent moviegoers increased from 6.4 million to 8.4 million between 2009 and 2011, a positive development for the theater industry.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Mar 26 2012 00:07:06 MDT]]></pubDate>
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				<title>decline in revenue </title>
				<description><![CDATA["These numbers underscore the impact of <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet</b></a> movies on the global economy and the vitality of the film-watching experience around the world," Chris Dodd, chairman and chief <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet Online</b></a> executive of the MPAA, said in a statement. "The bottom line is clear: People in all countries still go to the movies, and a trip to the local cinema remains <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.winterclothesstore.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Winter Clothes</b></a> one of the most affordable entertainment options for consumers."<br /> Ticket sales in the U.S. <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Shoes</b></a> and Canada dropped 4% to $10.2 billion, compared with 2010, partly reflecting a $400-million <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Sole Shoess</b></a> decline in revenue from 3-D ticket sales and a crop of under-performing movies in the first quarter of 2011.<br /> "It's all about the movies, and there <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Heels</b></a> wasn't any'Avatar'in 2011," said John Fithian, president of the National Assn. of Theatre Owners. The MPAA boasted that <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Louboutins Outlets</b></a> domestic ticket sales were up 6% over five years ago. But theater admissions — the number of actual <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Christian Louboutins Outlet</b></a> tickets sold — dropped 4% in 2011 from the previous year, to 1.28 billion. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Mar 26 2012 00:06:40 MDT]]></pubDate>
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				<title>allows into the country</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Even as domestic ticket sales stalled last year, <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet</b></a> the international movie business climbed to new heights. A report released <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.coachoutletcouponsbags.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Coach Outlet Online</b></a> Thursday by the Motion Picture Assn. of America states that global box-office receipts for all films released around the world in <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.winterclothesstore.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Winter Clothes</b></a> 2011 reached $32.6 billion, up 3% over 2010 and 35% higher than five years ago.<br /> The rise in global ticket sales reflects <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Shoes</b></a> the rapid growth in overseas markets, particularly in China, where the box office grew by a whopping 35% to $2 billion in 2011 <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Sole Shoess</b></a> alone, according to the MPAA. That tied China with France as the second-highest grossing foreign territory. Japan, at $2.3 billion, was first.<br /> China has been experiencing a <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Red Bottom Heels</b></a> multiplex-building boom as Hollywood studios and production companies sign deals to expand their presence in the world's <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Louboutins Outlets</b></a> most populous country, which recently took steps to ease its <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.redbottomshoesclsale.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><b>Christian Louboutins Outlet</b></a> annual quota on the number of foreign movies it allows into the country.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>Beef and milk cows</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I am thinking a few cows (&lt;5) would be good on the homestead.  I am probably 2 years out, but do like thinking about this kinda thing any way.  Well, we would like some cows for milk and for beef.  I thought about just getting the best milk cow and then butchering the steers and replacing the cows with their young.  I have heard meat production on milk cows is not the best and then thought maybe I should get some heritage breeds that would be good on both accounts.  Some of the criteria I am thinking:<br /> <br /> 1)  High milkfat content.  I was shooting for 3.5% or better.<br /> 2)  Able to produce well on grass only.<br /> 3)  Able to withstand the heat of South Carolina in the summer time.<br /> 4)  Good beef production.<br /> 5)  Average to low production.  I could make less than 3 gallons a day work well enough.<br /> <br /> Obviously, these are not set in stone, just some thoughts I had initially.  I came across the Florida Cracker that seemed like a decent cow and saw another place that had a few breeds that might fit the bill.  I also heard about the miniature jersey, but they are really expensive (which is good and bad of course).  I just wanted to toss it out to the general consensus and see what recommendations y'all had.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, Mar 23 2012 12:29:54 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Sebastian Hammer]]></author>
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				<title>new homesteader?</title>
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				<title>Anyone looking for a homestead in south New Brunswick, Canadian East Coast?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Property for sale, would make a great hobby farm.<br /> Rural New Brunswick(Eastern Canada) Village of Cap Pele, next to Shediac.<br /> The charms of the Straight of Northumberland gives it a really nice beach just 1 km from the house. 10 minutes walk puts you on the beach.Kelp compost possibilities.<br /> A house of a story and a half with 2 bedrooms downstairs and a loft and an extra room upstairs.<br /> Small shed and potting shed at the back could be turned into chicken coop and such.<br /> Some small fruit trees already and a parcel already been prepped and grown in organically. Great place for Bees also.<br /> Our own well and sewage connected to the village of Cap Pele. Almost 2 acres. <br /> 30 min from Moncton and less then an hour from Prince Eduard Island<br /> Asking $145 000.00. contact me at <a class="snap_shots" href="mailto:jacques_lanteigne@hotmail.com">jacques_lanteigne@hotmail.com</a><br /> check pics at <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.farm-dreams.com/group/canadian-farm-dreamers" target="_blank" >http://www.farm-dreams.com/group/canadian-farm-dreamers</a><br /> contact me for more pics<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Mar 14 2012 07:00:58 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Jacques Lanteigne]]></author>
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				<title>Setting Up a Commercial Sized Walk-In Freezer --- $ on the cheap $</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I started the day at Starbucks this morning and made an important discovery. They change out their refrigerators at 5 years old. The unit pictured below was about $3000 new. The refrigeration guy said that with proper maintainance these units could last 50 years.  They are for sale for around $600 if everything works and as low as $200 for units stripped of refrigerant parts so that they are just shelving with doors. Considering the amount of stainless steel in these heavy units, $200 is about $75 above scrap value.<br /> <br /> Other chains also get rid of stuff long before they wear out but aparently Starbucks machines are the best of them because they start with good quality and replace them so often. He's been at it for 30 years, so I have no reason to doubt this.<br /> <br />  Stripped down units would be perfect for shelving in a large cooler or freezer. They have wheels and the doors seal out odor so that fish, meat, fruit and vegtables could share the same space. Any decent shelving would cost more than this.<br /> <br /> I could see rolling a fridge into a food prep area where it could be loaded with freshly killed chickens or garden produce. Once loaded it would be left in the walk in freezer with the doors left open until everything reaches the propper temperature. This would make for a high end very slick freezer room at a bargain price. <br /> <br /> Units left intact could be used as stand alone display cases in the sales area on larger farms.  The refrigeration guy told me that plain looking units without stainless cladding are much cheaper. Extra insulation can be added to most surfaces to increase efficiency.<br /> <br /> My next demolition project has two walk in freezers. I'm going to try to swing a deal on these. They currently have grand plans of selling them, but experience has taught me to play it cool and swoop in with a low ball offer just when they start dialing the scrap yard once they determine that there aren't many buyers for this sort of thing.  I should have word within 2 months.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Mar 14 2012 03:20:15 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Dale Hodgins]]></author>
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				<title>The Paw Paw</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Does anyone here have any experience growing the Paw Paw tree/shrub? They are hard to find. Any info would be loved. I am thinking of putting them near my blue berries. Anyone growing them? I am in SW Michigan. Thanks.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, Mar 11 2012 13:12:15 MDT]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Daniel Morse]]></author>
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				<title>Potable water collector, or Reverse Osmosis?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Howdy... I'm trying to figure out how to maintain a good source of potable water at my cabin.  I have a well, but the tests came back with Arsenic.  This is common to digging deep wells in Northern Minnesota.  This is naturally occurring.  So, I need to figure out if I'm going to invest in an expensive large water cache system, or an expensive reverse osmosis system.  I'd like to just have a countertop osmosis unit, but I can't get straight answers on one that will filter out the arsenic.<br /> <br /> The expense from the rain water cache would involve putting on a steel roof, so water collected doesn't have all the crap/chemicals that comes from shingles.<br /> <br /> I'm at a loss, so any ideas are appreciated.  <br /> <br /> My option of last resort is to fill up a large container from the lake, and filter that.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Mar 6 2012 14:31:08 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Don Splitter]]></author>
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				<title>Need to hire skip bin!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[Hi,<br /> I am from Melbourne and need to hire skip bin. Is there anyone who suggests me a cheaper and good company?<br /> Thanks in advance<br /> <br /> <br /> _____________<br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.jimsskipbins.com.au/skip-bins-hire-perth.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">skip hire perth</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, Feb 28 2012 04:10:03 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Thomus Law]]></author>
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				<title>Hemp/Cannabis</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I am surprised there is not more pro hemp messages in this type of forum/lifestyle.  It would save the planet as a bio-fuel ridding our reliance on a non-renewable fossil fuel.  I'm quite curious to find out more of everyone's opinions on this subject as it was once the basis of many societies. Hemp that is! Cheers Peace & Wellness. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Feb 27 2012 23:24:44 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Jay Kemp]]></author>
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				<title>Living with Bears</title>
				<description><![CDATA[In another thread, about carrying guns on a homestead, I mentioned bears. Wanting to reply to a resulting post, I realized that what I wanted to discuss wasn't specifically about guns so, not wanting to take the other thread off topic, I thought I'd start another here. People tend to have strong feelings about bears, even those who have never seen one, and there are reasonable arguments that can be made in all directions on the subject, so let's have at it. Doing a forum search, I can see that a fairly lively discussion has already taken place here on bears in compost piles but, since I wanted to talk about more than compost piles, I decided to start a new topic.<br /> <br /> First, I am not an expert on the subject, don't claim to be, and haven't even played one on TV; however, I did grow up in bear country and currently have a hundred acres of land in northern Maine that I share with at least four individual black bears, some of whom only visit during mating season. I don't think that I am naive when it comes to bears, and sometimes even carry a gun while walking on my land, yet I have no reasonable expectation of ever having to use it, and just as often I don't carry a gun when walking on my land.<br /> <br /> I have never actually seen any of the bears on my land in Maine, because bears prefer it that way, but I have trail cameras set up that I move to various parts of the property, and hardly a day goes by that at least one bear doesn't show up on camera. In fact, I have a theory that one particular bear has made a game out of finding my camera because even when I moved it into a small clearing in the middle of a cedar swamp on the far end of the property, he was there within a few days. Since black bears on camera often look very very much alike, I may have had more than four individual bears.<br /> <br /> From homesteaders and others who live in or on the edge of bear country, I often get the feeling that the very presence of a bear is seen as a threat and an imposition, and many will voice opinions reminiscent of early views of Native Americans, that the only good bear is a dead bear.<br /> <br /> I grew up on a small farm on the edge of bear country, and spent a great deal of time in the woods, and have never viewed bears as a threat, at least no more than I would dogs or other people. In fact, far more people are killed each year by dogs and other people than by bears. I grew up in the UP of Michigan, where there were bears in the woods on the far side of our pasture, yet only once did we see one outside of the woods, and that was a young black bear that we watched running across the pasture, crossing the road and our neighbor's pasture, the into the woods on the other side. Generally, bears that have not been acclimated to people will go way out of their way to avoid being seen. We always had a couple of dogs, so there was never any evidence of bears coming into our yard or around the barns and outbuildings. Yet there was plenty of evidence of them in the woods. If we were to see a bear in the woods, it would be a fleeting glimpse of a bear's butt retreating into the bushes.<br /> <br /> As children, we camped out in the woods all the time, without parents or adults with us, and neither we or our parents ever show any fear of harm coming to us from marauding bears. My cousins and I spent two full weeks in a teepee sort of structure that we had built ourselves out of native materials. Of course, there were always some scary moments, hearing the noises of animals scuffling about outside of our tent at night, but these villains of the night were as likely to have been raccoons than bears.<br /> <br /> Recently, I did some research into the numbers of people killed by black bears in North America. I don't have the statistics in front of me right now, but most of these fatal attacks were committed by caged bears or bears that people had turned into pets, followed closely by attacks occurring in national parks or other unnatural environments, where bears have become acclimated to viewing people as sources of food. Third, but way behind the other two, were that of bears in places that had only recently been settled by people, where there were more bears than the natural environment could support.<br /> <br /> Maine had only one recorded fatality caused by a black bear, which is the only kind of bear we have here, and that was a bear that had been kept in a cage at a gas station in, I think it was in the 1930s. The gas station owner, and keeper of the bear, had gone into the cage with the bear for some reason, and was attacked and killed. Going back as far as 1900, there were no recorded deaths caused by black bears in the wild in Maine, and very few attacks. Our black flies probably pose more of a threat than our black bears.<br /> <br /> The dangers presented by black bears are nevertheless real and are, to some extent, probably regional in nature. Black bears in Maine, with its vast woodlands and forests, have little need to rummage through people's trash cans at night, or to enter homes looking for food.<br /> <br /> Bears are nearly always in search of food. Over the spring, summer and fall, a black bear will put on a huge amount of weight, in preparation for winter. Rather than being major predators of deer or livestock, black bears rarely hunt and kill animals larger than rabbits or rodents. When bear are found feeding on a deer or on someone's cow, the greater likelihood is that the animal died of something else before the bear came along. Eighty-five to ninety percent of a black bear's diet consists of vegetable and plant matter, and a large percentage of its meat is in the form of insects, caterpillars, grubs and other crawly things.<br /> <br /> The above refers to a black bear's preference. However, black bears are highly adaptable. When its environment is changed, whether by human encroachment or other destruction of the forests and woodlands in which it lives, then the bear will look elsewhere for food. One of the places it might look is in your backyard. A dog will generally be enough to keep a bear away, and I've seen video of large bears being chased away by little ankle-biting dogs. Otherwise, if the bear comes into your backyard, it will usually be at night. If it finds food in a trashcan that you have left outside, it is going to get into that trashcan, and it will remember your backyard as being a source of food. Other attractants include birdfeeders, food stored in accessible outbuildings, dog food bowls left outside while the dog is taken in at night, or chickens and other kinds of poultry. A very hungry bear might look to larger animals as prey, but generally any animal larger than the bear will be safe from harm.<br /> <br /> People who live in the city take precautions to protect their stuff. At the very least, they lock their doors and their windows, and they don't leave their keys in their car. People may go beyond that, to hire security companies, installing burglar alarms, and maybe carrying their wallet in their front pocket rather than their back left pocket, where thieves may expect to find it. We warn our children to look both ways before crossing the street, and not to talk to strangers.<br /> <br /> Yet, when they move to the country, they think that they don't have to worry anymore about anyone taking their stuff. That's not true. Not only are there dishonest people in the country as well, but you need to concern yourself with the raccoons, skunks, bears and other critters who may be lurking about in the night, or even in the daytime, looking for your stuff. Take similar precautions. Don't put food wastes in trash cans or bags outdoors or in easily accessible porches and outbuildings. Take your birdfeeder in at night, or make sure that it's not accessible by bears. Birdseed is very high in the calories that bears need and are looking for, and they will be strongly attracted to it. If you have a dog, don't yell at it to shut up at night because it's probably busy doing its job, as annoying as it might be at three o'clock in the morning.<br /> <br /> Don't feed the bears, whether intentionally or accidentally, and they are not likely to be a nuisance. Feed the bears, and you can expect to find more of them. If you remember reading about the marks that hobos would put on people's fences indicating whether or not they were a soft touch, it's a little like that, I think. Bears will remember the places where they have found food in the past, and they will come back. If you don't find food, you may still have a bear coming in to investigate from time to time, but you won't have repeat visits.<br /> <br /> In my research, I have read some accounts of people whose homes or camps had been broken into by bears, some even resulting in attacks. At least two of these people had been feeding the bears, because they enjoyed seeing the bears in their yard. Once you have a bear in your yard, the animal can smell any food that you might have out in your house and, although it would certainly be unusual, the bear might decide that it's worth the effort to go in and get some. Campers are wisely told not to keep food in their tent. If you are living in bear country, it's a good idea not to leave food lying around in your house either, such as on your table or on a window sill. Of course, the first step would be not to attract them into your yard to begin with.<br /> <br /> When you are in the city, do you leave your wallet lying on the seat of your car where anyone walking by can see it? Of course not, because that might tempt someone to break into your car and take it. It's the same principle, only bears can smell a lot better than they can see, so you want to keep the smells down.<br /> <br /> My experience is restricted to black bears. While I have done some reading on brown bears, grizzlies and polar bears, I don't know a lot about them. Of course, you should feel free to discuss them here as well, if you wish. There are more similarities than there are differences.<br /> <br /> The most dangerous black bear is one that has been acclimated to people, and which has come to view people as sources of food. These would be the ones who can be found in national parks or other unnatural habitats. These might also include those that have become accustomed to being fed by people, whether intentionally or through carelessness.<br /> <br /> The next most dangerous black bear is one that resides so far into the wilderness that it has no experience with people at all. Such a bear might view a person as being the 150-pound weakling that he is, and could potentially view the person as being food.<br /> <br /> Then, of course, there are the aberrancies. It is not the norm for people to molest, rape, murder or cannibalize people, yet there are people who do these things. The same may be true of a bear. For reasons that may make sense only to the bear, some bears might just simply be dangerous. With such bears, there is probably a story behind whatever it is that they are, as there is with people who exhibit aberrant behavior, but that story doesn't matter to you if you are being attacked. This is outside of the norm, but it can occur. Nevertheless, just as most of us don't walk around in cities and towns with an unreasonable fear of people, we shouldn't have an unreasonable fear of bears while we are in the forest. Caution and respect are in order, but not fear.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, Feb 27 2012 10:12:30 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Ken Anderson]]></author>
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				<title>Is a gun necessary on a homestead? Is there any other solutions?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[1 A very high number of people got shot with their own gun.<br /> 2 Your more likely to get robbed just for the gun.<br /> 3 Kids killing kids with parents gun.<br /> <br /> I grew up in the city and even owning a gun is dangerous. <br /> So I am a vunerable women in the country, I already got my site robbed more than once. There are a lot of dangers but everything I know about guns says its more dangerous to own one than not. I do realize that a lot of people are not responsible enough to own a gun and guns don't kill people (but that is thier only use to kill something). If you are not prepared to kill someone coming at you (meaning shoot to kill) than for get it. I believe I am more likely to claw your eyes out than be able to shoot kill. What about bee keeping? seems to me people really don't like to go near bees. A dog would alert me early and maybe even an attack dog?Ughh.... Sigh...I'm really not sure]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, Feb 24 2012 09:23:31 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Theresa Whited]]></author>
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				<title>How did you succeed at going off grid?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[There seem to be a lot of people who fail at going off grid. I am feeling humble about moving on to my property and living a very different lifestyle. I have been very unhappy with my convient lifestyle so I started searching for what I really wanted and what would make me happy. I studied other countries lifestyles where they live happy and healthy, thats a start.  The stress, diet and wasted energy in the US is screaming for change. They have said that our children have a shorter life expectancy than us. I believe money can't buy happiness, less is more, simple is better etc.<br /> <br /> My #1 reason for going off grid - Quality of life<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, Feb 24 2012 08:50:09 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Theresa Whited]]></author>
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				<title>How many people fail at going off grid</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I talked to some local guys that direct and make off the grid documentaries and they say the truth is most people fail at this. Is this true because I'm feeling pretty humble right now.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Feb 23 2012 11:51:00 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Theresa Whited]]></author>
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				<title>Pleased as Beetroot</title>
				<description><![CDATA[In Le Grand Froid (The Big Freeze) as the media called it, I found all my beetroot (beets?) covered in snow and frozen, though not frozen to the ground. I noticed that some 'thing' was nibbling the hearts out of them so I harvested all of the non-nibbled ones and brought them in to sit in the hall awaiting processing. But life got oh-so-busy as it does and I rediscovered them yesterday evening, looking very sorry for themselves and thought to myself that hubby would say they were now pig food. But hey, he's not here at the moment.  So I peeled them all and I have processed 8.5kgs (19lbs) of beetroot this morning. Now we have Beetroot and Orange Chutney in the store cupboard, Thyme and Rosemary Roasted Beetroot in the freezer, and a whole load of sliced beetroot doing wild fermentation ready to make Borscht from the juice and Pickled Beetroot from the slices.  Pig food? Not likely!!!<br /> <br /> They did get all the trimmings however and they all have red noses now  :D  One happy homestead  ;)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, Feb 23 2012 04:45:10 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Alison Freeth-Thomas]]></author>
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				<title>need Jerusalem artichokes? Live in Michigan? I'll give you some if you come help dig</title>
				<description><![CDATA[I have an overabundance of Jerusalem artichokes and live in the central part of the lower penninsula of Michigan and will give away to as many as I can that want to come and help dig up the Jerusalem Artichokes with me. Should be able to begin digging them in March or April and will be digging them thru July when Ihope to dig up most of the ones in my one garden area and move them out..they will be free if you come help dig, send me a PM and I'll give you  my address and email info.<br /> <br /> I have mailed them out before but that is not my first choice..and then they wouldn't be free either..I'd have to charge.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, Feb 22 2012 09:25:19 MST]]></pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[Brenda Groth]]></author>
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